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To think John Davidson and BAFTA owe an apology

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notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:10

I have sympathy for anyone with Tourette’s. I genuinely do. It’s a difficult condition and I’m not for one second suggesting John Davidson is a bad person or that he chose to say what he said. But sympathy for a condition doesn’t mean the impact on others gets ignored.

Intent matters but so does impact. If I accidentally stand on someone’s foot I still say sorry, even though I didn’t mean to do it. “I didn’t mean it” and “I acknowledge I hurt you” are not mutually exclusive. I wouldn’t get annoyed at the suggestion of apologising simply because I didn’t mean it, so why is this different? Especially as it was a public stage in front of millions. I don’t expect John to apologise every day in normal interactions, but at such a public forum - he should. Michael B Jordan looked visibly devastated. It was so sad.

When he saw two Black men and the n-word came out — not H**ky at the white hosts for example, not some other neutral word, the n-word directed at Black people in the room — that caused real harm to real people. Tourette’s tics are shaped by what the brain reaches for as most “forbidden” in a given moment, and what it reached for when he saw two Black men was a racial slur aimed at them. That raises really uncomfortable questions about unconscious bias that most people would rather sidestep entirely.

It doesn’t make him a conscious racist. But it does make it a conversation worth having, because our unconscious associations don’t come from nowhere — they’re shaped by everything we’ve absorbed over a lifetime. That connotation being the first place his brain went is something that deserves acknowledgement, not just a pass because of the diagnosis. And as a POC, I have to be honest — this is heartbreaking. Not just the incident itself but what it represents.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve tried to explain to white friends and colleagues that certain spaces feel uncomfortable, that you notice the stares, that you carry this constant low level awareness of how you might be being perceived. And so often the response is “you’re imagining it” or “you’re being too sensitive.” You get gaslit into doubting your own lived experience. Well — moments like this are exactly why it isn’t in our heads. This is the reality POC navigate every single day. Always on alert. Always doing that mental calculation of whether someone is judging you for the colour of your skin. That emotional labour is exhausting and largely invisible to people who’ve never had to carry it.

John thanking the audience for their “understanding” puts the burden entirely on those who were hurt to just get over it. That’s not the same as acknowledging the pain caused. AIBU to think a bit more than “thanks for understanding” was needed here — from both of them?

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CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 11:10

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 11:09

You are not an ‘us’

You do not get to decide how all POC feel

You only get to decide how you feel, no one else

POC do not all feel the same way

Ok. Fair. Non PoC don't get to tell me how to feel, and how to run my events.

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 11:10

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 11:05

I very much doubt that any black person would use the ridiculous word " segregated" for JD voluntarily leaving the hall to sit in another room. Or expect MBJ to give a statement.

If you don't want to divulge your ethnicity, fine. But as I said, I am done taking advice from non PoC on racial slurs.

Segregated was exactly the right term.

And I'm a member of the LGBT+ community. If it had been Alan Cumming and a homophobic slur then I would be expecting him to make a statement too...

But that probably doesn't count

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 11:11

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 11:09

You are not an ‘us’

You do not get to decide how all POC feel

You only get to decide how you feel, no one else

POC do not all feel the same way

And lumping all PoC into one homogenous lump is fundamentally racist

NoSoupForU · 25/02/2026 11:12

Ollldy78 · 25/02/2026 11:07

If a disabled person rolled their wheelchair over my foot, they would most likely apologise, wouldn’t they?
Im not saying they “should”, but why wouldn’t they? One person’s disability does not negate another’s pain..

Would they? If they'd rolled it over your foot intentionally then perhaps but if they hadn't, would they know? What if the motor on their wheelchair had faulted and they had no control over it's steering? And what about if they had no control over it's steering and were suffering because of it?

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 11:12

Ollldy78 · 25/02/2026 11:07

If a disabled person rolled their wheelchair over my foot, they would most likely apologise, wouldn’t they?
Im not saying they “should”, but why wouldn’t they? One person’s disability does not negate another’s pain..

This has been done to death. Unless you are rolling over someone’s foot several times a day then the two are not comparable. John would be apologising several times a day for simply existing with a disability, not for an accident.

And he has apologised.

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 11:13

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 11:10

Ok. Fair. Non PoC don't get to tell me how to feel, and how to run my events.

And no one has.

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 11:14

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 11:11

And lumping all PoC into one homogenous lump is fundamentally racist

Exactly why you should report me. We all know how anti-racist MN is 😅

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 11:16

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 11:14

Exactly why you should report me. We all know how anti-racist MN is 😅

“Report me because I won’t stop being racist” is an unusual stance to take.

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 11:16

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 11:13

And no one has.

Wrong. @DotAndCarryOne2 has told me I am being deeply uninclusive if I edit any future slurs.

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 11:18

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 11:16

“Report me because I won’t stop being racist” is an unusual stance to take.

Perhaps. I won't though.

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 11:19

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 11:16

Wrong. @DotAndCarryOne2 has told me I am being deeply uninclusive if I edit any future slurs.

That’s her opinion.

Where did she tell you that you couldn’t do that? That would be telling you how to run your events

Auroraloves · 25/02/2026 11:22

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 11:09

You are not an ‘us’

You do not get to decide how all POC feel

You only get to decide how you feel, no one else

POC do not all feel the same way

Indeed, I’ve watched a couple of videos from Tourette’s sufferers who were also black. They spoke very sensibly on the topic

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 11:24

Auroraloves · 25/02/2026 11:22

Indeed, I’ve watched a couple of videos from Tourette’s sufferers who were also black. They spoke very sensibly on the topic

Saw two. They said the slur should be edited out and JD not attacked or made to apologise any further. Exactly what I have said. Anything different?

Auroraloves · 25/02/2026 11:31

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 11:24

Saw two. They said the slur should be edited out and JD not attacked or made to apologise any further. Exactly what I have said. Anything different?

The main theme was that they realise that the word did not come from a place of hatred, I wish people like Jamie Foxx could have taken this common sense, well informed view before absolutely ruining this poor man

Gloriia · 25/02/2026 11:35

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CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 11:37

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Ukefluke · 25/02/2026 11:42

I await apologies from those driving a hate campaign against a disbled man.

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 11:43

Oh, my response sharing what a Black Tourette's sufferer has to say has been hidden, maybe because of my "reverse racism" in only listening to PoC on this. To summarise, she shares my views on editing the slurs out, but not attacking JD. Maybe she be racist.

@MN care to explain why? I will be fighting this all the way.

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 11:45

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 11:16

“Report me because I won’t stop being racist” is an unusual stance to take.

I honestly don't know what their point is any more

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 11:45

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 11:14

Exactly why you should report me. We all know how anti-racist MN is 😅

And you've had at least one comment hidden now...

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 11:46

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 11:45

And you've had at least one comment hidden now...

Yes, I have just noticed. I will be pursuing it.

SpaceRaccoon · 25/02/2026 11:47

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Hear that? Know your limitations, anyone suffering from a neurological condition. Stay home lest you offend anyone. Even if an event is partially about a film about your life, you have no place there. The reality of your condition is too gross and offensive.

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 11:47

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"Hide the disabled people"

That's what you are saying

People can take offence at anything without intent

That's not the fault of the person who said it

Abuse also requires intent

Gloriia · 25/02/2026 11:47

There was a family at school with a dc with sen, they had very loud but not offensive tics. They didn't take them to school shows, not because anyone complained but out of consideration for other people who were watching.

They took their dc to sports days, fayres, school trips so they're weren't isolated or excluded but when there are performances or speeches it is absolutely not rocket science for anyone with verbal tics to sit it out.

RonniePickering · 25/02/2026 11:47

Are people actually arguing that the slur should have been left in the broadcast?!
That is bizarre. Obviously JD couldn't help it due to his condition, but why upset people further by leaving it in?