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To think John Davidson and BAFTA owe an apology

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notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:10

I have sympathy for anyone with Tourette’s. I genuinely do. It’s a difficult condition and I’m not for one second suggesting John Davidson is a bad person or that he chose to say what he said. But sympathy for a condition doesn’t mean the impact on others gets ignored.

Intent matters but so does impact. If I accidentally stand on someone’s foot I still say sorry, even though I didn’t mean to do it. “I didn’t mean it” and “I acknowledge I hurt you” are not mutually exclusive. I wouldn’t get annoyed at the suggestion of apologising simply because I didn’t mean it, so why is this different? Especially as it was a public stage in front of millions. I don’t expect John to apologise every day in normal interactions, but at such a public forum - he should. Michael B Jordan looked visibly devastated. It was so sad.

When he saw two Black men and the n-word came out — not H**ky at the white hosts for example, not some other neutral word, the n-word directed at Black people in the room — that caused real harm to real people. Tourette’s tics are shaped by what the brain reaches for as most “forbidden” in a given moment, and what it reached for when he saw two Black men was a racial slur aimed at them. That raises really uncomfortable questions about unconscious bias that most people would rather sidestep entirely.

It doesn’t make him a conscious racist. But it does make it a conversation worth having, because our unconscious associations don’t come from nowhere — they’re shaped by everything we’ve absorbed over a lifetime. That connotation being the first place his brain went is something that deserves acknowledgement, not just a pass because of the diagnosis. And as a POC, I have to be honest — this is heartbreaking. Not just the incident itself but what it represents.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve tried to explain to white friends and colleagues that certain spaces feel uncomfortable, that you notice the stares, that you carry this constant low level awareness of how you might be being perceived. And so often the response is “you’re imagining it” or “you’re being too sensitive.” You get gaslit into doubting your own lived experience. Well — moments like this are exactly why it isn’t in our heads. This is the reality POC navigate every single day. Always on alert. Always doing that mental calculation of whether someone is judging you for the colour of your skin. That emotional labour is exhausting and largely invisible to people who’ve never had to carry it.

John thanking the audience for their “understanding” puts the burden entirely on those who were hurt to just get over it. That’s not the same as acknowledging the pain caused. AIBU to think a bit more than “thanks for understanding” was needed here — from both of them?

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SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 12:20

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:14

Yes, I said I will take the views of PoC on racist slurs over white people. Happy to own up to it if that is racism.I will say it a dozen times.

If women on here can tell men off for mansplaining and childfree people can tell mums off for parentsplaining, I can counter racialslurssplaining.

The last straw is posters expecting MBJ and DL to issue a statement supporting JD.
Fuck that! ( profanity alllowed on MN).

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Why shouldn't they show some decency though? John has issued so many statements that he doesn't need to because he's trying to make things right and, according to many on here, that's the decent thing to do. Why isn't it the decent thing for DL and MBJ to issue a statement calling for people to show understanding? Why should they stay silent and allow others to issue death threats and abuse?

You've not actually answered that and always deflect away

(And that wasn't why you were called racist either. Try again)

SpaceRaccoon · 25/02/2026 12:22

Gloriia · 25/02/2026 12:10

'And yet you're advocating for them to be kept out of civilisation'

No hun, not kept out of civilisation at all.

When you have a condition/disability you can do some things and not others, sadly that is life. If you have a verbal tic which includes offensive words and racial slurs <through not fault of your own/with no intent but still highly offensive> then consideration should also be given to people you'll be mixing with.

That would mean never leaving the house or being in public. House arrest.
, effectively.

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:32

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 12:20

Why shouldn't they show some decency though? John has issued so many statements that he doesn't need to because he's trying to make things right and, according to many on here, that's the decent thing to do. Why isn't it the decent thing for DL and MBJ to issue a statement calling for people to show understanding? Why should they stay silent and allow others to issue death threats and abuse?

You've not actually answered that and always deflect away

(And that wasn't why you were called racist either. Try again)

I have answered it. Told I was speaking for all PoC.

So let me try again: Personally speaking, I will never issue a statement supporting anyone who makes a racial slur against me, Tourettes or not. I won't attack them either. I will simply walk away, as is my right. It is not my job to educate people. Let the Tourettes Society do the work. I have done plenty of work and have enough to do to defend myself, given the current climate against brown immigrants.

I assume that MBJ and DL feel the same..But of course I cant speak for them. That would be very, very wrong.

grumpygrape · 25/02/2026 12:32

Gloriia · 25/02/2026 11:54

'You want people with ‘Alzheimers, those with schizophrenia, personality disorders etc.’ to ‘demonstrate awareness’? What a ridiculous thing to say'

I said sufferers and their carers. So someone with alzheimers I'd expect their carers to know what social settings would be appropriate.

Would you let me have a list of social settings where I shouldn’t take my Alzheimer’s sufferer husband? Just so I know.

Oh, and what if he didn’t have a ‘carer’, how would he know where to avoid considering most Alzheimer’s sufferers can’t remember recent instructions for more than about 30 seconds?

I thought we lived in a free society, not one where judgemental people were unable to realise that people with physical and mental disabilities are no longer locked away unless they are a danger to the rest of society.

MissyMooPoo2 · 25/02/2026 12:32

CasperGutman · 25/02/2026 10:23

It doesn’t make him a conscious racist. But it does make it a conversation worth having, because our unconscious associations don’t come from nowhere — they’re shaped by everything we’ve absorbed over a lifetime.

There are legitimate criticisms to be made about editing decisions at BAFTA and the BBC, and communications after the event, but it would be grossly unfair to suggest that these unfortunate events can tell us anything about racism - conscious or unconscious - on the part of John Davidson. All that was needed was an awareness that the n-word is strongly taboo, and an association between that word and the people on the stage. We don't have to look far or assume any underlying racism to find a perfectly plausible origin for such an association.

The film Sinners, which features both Michael B Jordan and Delroy Lindo, includes a good deal of profanity and multiple instances of racial slurs. It is hardly surprising that there would be an association in John Davidson's mind between those two actors in particular and the language used in their film (which he would presumably have seen, given that it was heavily nominated for awards including in categories in which his own film was nominated).

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This is a very good point.

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 12:39

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:32

I have answered it. Told I was speaking for all PoC.

So let me try again: Personally speaking, I will never issue a statement supporting anyone who makes a racial slur against me, Tourettes or not. I won't attack them either. I will simply walk away, as is my right. It is not my job to educate people. Let the Tourettes Society do the work. I have done plenty of work and have enough to do to defend myself, given the current climate against brown immigrants.

I assume that MBJ and DL feel the same..But of course I cant speak for them. That would be very, very wrong.

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You weren’t told you were speaking for all POC, you declared yourself the voice of all POC.

Big difference.

Chimen · 25/02/2026 12:41

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 12:20

Why shouldn't they show some decency though? John has issued so many statements that he doesn't need to because he's trying to make things right and, according to many on here, that's the decent thing to do. Why isn't it the decent thing for DL and MBJ to issue a statement calling for people to show understanding? Why should they stay silent and allow others to issue death threats and abuse?

You've not actually answered that and always deflect away

(And that wasn't why you were called racist either. Try again)

This is ridiculous.
you don’t expect John to say something about the racism DL and MBJ are currently getting.

That would be the decent thing to do as he unintentionally put them in this situation.

Why should they say anything about John and feed the internet beast…

It’s an all round shit situation for those involved.

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:42

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 12:39

You weren’t told you were speaking for all POC, you declared yourself the voice of all POC.

Big difference.

Ok. I am allowed to personally decline the responsibility of educating the public at the cost of myself, yes? So I am. Personally. And for everyone at my events, as that is my remit.

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 12:50

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CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:52

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Happy to be a bigot and ableist if it means believing that MBJ and DL should protect themselves from the internet beast and say nothing. They are not responsible for Jamie Foxx or other nutters on X.

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 12:53

Chimen · 25/02/2026 12:41

This is ridiculous.
you don’t expect John to say something about the racism DL and MBJ are currently getting.

That would be the decent thing to do as he unintentionally put them in this situation.

Why should they say anything about John and feed the internet beast…

It’s an all round shit situation for those involved.

John has been expected to make apologise and statements about how no offense was meant

Expecting a statement saying "we don't condone this abuse and we understand he didn't do this out of malice" is the same

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 12:54

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:42

Ok. I am allowed to personally decline the responsibility of educating the public at the cost of myself, yes? So I am. Personally. And for everyone at my events, as that is my remit.

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You can decline anything you wish, you have free will. You just can’t speak for the collective POC hive mind because that’s not a thing.

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 12:55

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:52

Happy to be a bigot and ableist if it means believing that MBJ and DL should protect themselves from the internet beast and say nothing. They are not responsible for Jamie Foxx or other nutters on X.

And John is not responsible for the racists and bigots who are using his clip to be racists and bigots but he is being expected to make apologies and statements 🤷‍♀️

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:56

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 12:54

You can decline anything you wish, you have free will. You just can’t speak for the collective POC hive mind because that’s not a thing.

I am sure there are some PoC who think the N word should be included in the broadcast. Definitely. Waiting......

mollypuss1 · 25/02/2026 13:03

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:56

I am sure there are some PoC who think the N word should be included in the broadcast. Definitely. Waiting......

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Of course there will be because people’s thoughts are not defined by their skin colour. Finally you might be getting it. (I know you’re not and never will by the way)

Quine0nline · 25/02/2026 13:25

Hopefully those calling for the assault, murder or abuse of a man with protected characteristics will be prosecuted for hate crimes and those encouraging them are prosecuted with that too.

JonesTown · 25/02/2026 14:02

I’m now at the stage where I would like Lindo and Jordan to come out with a statement that while the word is offensive, they accept that there was no intent here.

It is very unseemly that we have a janitor with an illness that has ruined his life now being abused in an attempt to defend two millionaire actors.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 25/02/2026 14:02

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:52

Happy to be a bigot and ableist if it means believing that MBJ and DL should protect themselves from the internet beast and say nothing. They are not responsible for Jamie Foxx or other nutters on X.

Wow. That’s quite an admission.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 25/02/2026 14:03

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:56

I am sure there are some PoC who think the N word should be included in the broadcast. Definitely. Waiting......

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And once again, posters have already commented to that effect. You are assuming they are all white.

Superkitty2025 · 25/02/2026 14:04

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg4g2ldegdwo

John Davidson speaks on the matter

DotAndCarryOne2 · 25/02/2026 14:05

CharlotteRumpling · 25/02/2026 12:42

Ok. I am allowed to personally decline the responsibility of educating the public at the cost of myself, yes? So I am. Personally. And for everyone at my events, as that is my remit.

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So basically you are saying that no-one at your events has anything to contribute to the benefit of society ?

Superkitty2025 · 25/02/2026 14:12

@JonesTown I agree!

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 14:16

Superkitty2025 · 25/02/2026 14:04

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg4g2ldegdwo

John Davidson speaks on the matter

He has made so, so many statements and apologies trying to make things right

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 14:24

JonesTown · 25/02/2026 14:02

I’m now at the stage where I would like Lindo and Jordan to come out with a statement that while the word is offensive, they accept that there was no intent here.

It is very unseemly that we have a janitor with an illness that has ruined his life now being abused in an attempt to defend two millionaire actors.

We aren't allowed to want that though because it's expecting black people to be teaching aids rather than decent people

Having now seen an article where MBJ is described as being "repulsed" by the incident it does raise questions about where he does stand tbh

INeedAPensieve · 25/02/2026 14:26

SlipperStar · 25/02/2026 14:16

He has made so, so many statements and apologies trying to make things right

It's becoming extremely clear now that the BBC has failed John and the actors. They probably won't admit it now though sadly. There will be a "lessons learned" statement but nothing, in fact, will be learned until the next time. Very frustrating.

I feel really sad that such a great film that highlighted the problems with tourettes and the extremely challenging and difficult life John has had is now overshadowed by outraged keyboard warriors who just won't listen.

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