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To think John Davidson and BAFTA owe an apology

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notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:10

I have sympathy for anyone with Tourette’s. I genuinely do. It’s a difficult condition and I’m not for one second suggesting John Davidson is a bad person or that he chose to say what he said. But sympathy for a condition doesn’t mean the impact on others gets ignored.

Intent matters but so does impact. If I accidentally stand on someone’s foot I still say sorry, even though I didn’t mean to do it. “I didn’t mean it” and “I acknowledge I hurt you” are not mutually exclusive. I wouldn’t get annoyed at the suggestion of apologising simply because I didn’t mean it, so why is this different? Especially as it was a public stage in front of millions. I don’t expect John to apologise every day in normal interactions, but at such a public forum - he should. Michael B Jordan looked visibly devastated. It was so sad.

When he saw two Black men and the n-word came out — not H**ky at the white hosts for example, not some other neutral word, the n-word directed at Black people in the room — that caused real harm to real people. Tourette’s tics are shaped by what the brain reaches for as most “forbidden” in a given moment, and what it reached for when he saw two Black men was a racial slur aimed at them. That raises really uncomfortable questions about unconscious bias that most people would rather sidestep entirely.

It doesn’t make him a conscious racist. But it does make it a conversation worth having, because our unconscious associations don’t come from nowhere — they’re shaped by everything we’ve absorbed over a lifetime. That connotation being the first place his brain went is something that deserves acknowledgement, not just a pass because of the diagnosis. And as a POC, I have to be honest — this is heartbreaking. Not just the incident itself but what it represents.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve tried to explain to white friends and colleagues that certain spaces feel uncomfortable, that you notice the stares, that you carry this constant low level awareness of how you might be being perceived. And so often the response is “you’re imagining it” or “you’re being too sensitive.” You get gaslit into doubting your own lived experience. Well — moments like this are exactly why it isn’t in our heads. This is the reality POC navigate every single day. Always on alert. Always doing that mental calculation of whether someone is judging you for the colour of your skin. That emotional labour is exhausting and largely invisible to people who’ve never had to carry it.

John thanking the audience for their “understanding” puts the burden entirely on those who were hurt to just get over it. That’s not the same as acknowledging the pain caused. AIBU to think a bit more than “thanks for understanding” was needed here — from both of them?

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TheEdenSide · 24/02/2026 09:43

OtterlyAstounding · 24/02/2026 09:40

Everyone on the internet hasn't seen his film though. Or even heard of him. Or had an understanding of Tourette's. So on a purely pragmatic level, a statement might have been helpful.

He did release a statement. He didn’t apologise because nobody needs to say sorry for being disabled

The Film is less than 2 hours long, surely people are better spending their time watching it rather than spending hours calling him a racist.

TheEdenSide · 24/02/2026 09:45

OtterlyAstounding · 24/02/2026 09:40

Everyone on the internet hasn't seen his film though. Or even heard of him. Or had an understanding of Tourette's. So on a purely pragmatic level, a statement might have been helpful.

Or failing being able to watch the film - spend 5 minutes researching Tourette’s.

@WhatSharonSaidNext in just the last few posts has confidently stated something completely incorrect about what Tourette’s is. She’d have been better finding out the truth before posting lies. She doesn’t need to watch the film to do that

SpaceRaccoon · 24/02/2026 09:48

https://x.com/Ace109610/status/2026046171764892116

Please anyone questioning his condition, or why he shouted what he did. Here is a clip from the film.
Walk a mile in John's shoes. He's a disabled man from a town in the Scottish borders who has lived a very hard life for decades, and been brave enough to use the shitty hand he's been dealt to help others, and further understanding of the condition, to the point that he was awarded an MBE for his services (and yes he did shout "fuck the Queen" at the queen).

He's not wealthy or powerful. He's disabled and vulnerable.

An international pile-on against him is one of the most disgraceful and gutwrenching spectacles I've ever seen, and I'm just glad that most of Scotland, and many in the UK, are backing him and showing him love and support.

Ace Humphreys 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🦢 (@Ace109610) on X

Honestly the situations with disabilities is very scary plus how some Americans don’t take Tourettes seriously and I don’t want anyone to discriminate people John Davidson life is a tragic story and he wanted to end his life based on his disability

https://x.com/Ace109610/status/2026046171764892116

OtterlyAstounding · 24/02/2026 09:51

SpaceRaccoon · 24/02/2026 09:40

But I don't understand why there's so much outrage about the idea of him reiterating that he obviously didn't mean to cause offence, and he's sorry to have said the word. Or why there's so much scorn over the idea that some people might have felt badly about having a racial slur shouted, even knowing the person couldn't help it.

He did - he put out a statement saying pretty much that - he used the word "mortified" instead of "sorry" though so it's apparently not good enough, and people want to see a bit of performative grovelling.

When was that statement released? I somehow seem to have missed it, as it wasn't quoted fully in the OP. Mortified seems pretty reasonable to me as a way to express horror at one's behaviour - but I can understand why some black people may feel dissatisfied with the way the situation was handled overall by the BBC etc, and that they may find a request for understanding without a 'sorry' to be grating.

SlipperStar · 24/02/2026 09:52

OtterlyAstounding · 24/02/2026 09:40

Everyone on the internet hasn't seen his film though. Or even heard of him. Or had an understanding of Tourette's. So on a purely pragmatic level, a statement might have been helpful.

Except that every news report about this is including the information...

SlipperStar · 24/02/2026 09:53

TheEdenSide · 24/02/2026 09:41

He’s said it once yesterday in a statement. It was mentioned by Alan Cumming twice in the night. Why does he need to constantly say it?

Because he should grovel and apologise and over explain over and over so people are satisfied he definitely didn't mean it

JasmineMac · 24/02/2026 09:54

WhatSharonSaidNext · 24/02/2026 09:33

Of course he just involuntarily shouted the N word at that same precise moment that two black men just happened to appear on stage. What a bizarre coincidence. Would he still have blurted out the N word if it had been two white people on stage? Tourette’s is a lack of any filter so that you blurt out what pops into your head involuntarily. And what popped into his head when he saw those two black actors was the N word. Let’s not pretend otherwise. Odd that no derogatory words popped into his head to involuntary blurt out while white actors were speaking about white trash or gypsies.

I watched a documentary once where a teenage girl with Tourette’s was buying clothes in a shop with her mum and she blurted out the N word as she was being served. Guess what? It wasn’t a white person serving her at the time. How odd that of all the things that could have popped into her head to be blurted out when she was being served by a black person, it just happened to be the N word. Just the N word.

The very same BAFTAs, the BBC edited out an actor saying Free Palestine. But they couldn’t edit out someone shouting out the N word. How convenient. And people reckon it’s the rest of us that don’t understand the condition?

For someone who has vocal tics, in John's case coprolalia, there is a constant conscious awareness that he may utter a vulgarism. John has that constant conscious awareness, he can't escape it.
The paradox is that this awareness/fear that he may vocalise the worst thing possible in any given situation (eg the fear that meeting an obese person will mean he blurts out fatty) is the very reason he vocalises the worst thing possible.
If he was a dreadful person, and had no emotional reaction to unwanted words/thoughts popping in to his head, his life would be a lot easier, because random thoughts that you have no emotional reaction to tend not to recur (and that applies to us all, not just people with a neurological condition).

TheEdenSide · 24/02/2026 09:54

OtterlyAstounding · 24/02/2026 09:51

When was that statement released? I somehow seem to have missed it, as it wasn't quoted fully in the OP. Mortified seems pretty reasonable to me as a way to express horror at one's behaviour - but I can understand why some black people may feel dissatisfied with the way the situation was handled overall by the BBC etc, and that they may find a request for understanding without a 'sorry' to be grating.

How many times - symptoms of disability are not a “behavior” to be mortified at

And actually he said what he’s mortified about is the thought that people think he’s racist. He’s not mortified by his tics, nor should he be

He released the statement yesterday

The BBC also apologised as they should have done. But anyone at the receiving end of John’s tics - be it black people, women, Jews, elderly people, children - need to accept that he, and any other disabled person with Tourette’s owes them no apology.

SpaceRaccoon · 24/02/2026 09:54

OtterlyAstounding · 24/02/2026 09:51

When was that statement released? I somehow seem to have missed it, as it wasn't quoted fully in the OP. Mortified seems pretty reasonable to me as a way to express horror at one's behaviour - but I can understand why some black people may feel dissatisfied with the way the situation was handled overall by the BBC etc, and that they may find a request for understanding without a 'sorry' to be grating.

https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/2026009018158948476

Here it is.

To be honest, my concern at this point is for the vulnerable, disabled, working class man at the eye of the storm.

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) on X

John Davidson says he is “deeply mortified” that anyone thought his involuntary tics were “intentional or to carry any meaning.” Full statement: “I wanted to thank BAFTA and everyone involved in the awards last night for their support and understandi...

https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/2026009018158948476

OtterlyAstounding · 24/02/2026 10:00

SpaceRaccoon · 24/02/2026 09:54

https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/2026009018158948476

Here it is.

To be honest, my concern at this point is for the vulnerable, disabled, working class man at the eye of the storm.

Thank you! I wish I'd seen that in its entirety earlier, and feel like a fool now as it seems like a reasonable statement.

I can still understand other people not feeling like it's enough, but I think that 'mortified' is a pretty strong, evocative word, which communicates sorrow/embarrassment/lack of intent.

TheEdenSide · 24/02/2026 10:01

OtterlyAstounding · 24/02/2026 10:00

Thank you! I wish I'd seen that in its entirety earlier, and feel like a fool now as it seems like a reasonable statement.

I can still understand other people not feeling like it's enough, but I think that 'mortified' is a pretty strong, evocative word, which communicates sorrow/embarrassment/lack of intent.

He’s not mortified at his actions. Nor should he be.

If other people want blood, or grovelling apologies, it’s on them, not disabled people, to square with themselves that they are making an unreasonable and discriminatory demand.

OtterlyAstounding · 24/02/2026 10:05

TheEdenSide · 24/02/2026 09:54

How many times - symptoms of disability are not a “behavior” to be mortified at

And actually he said what he’s mortified about is the thought that people think he’s racist. He’s not mortified by his tics, nor should he be

He released the statement yesterday

The BBC also apologised as they should have done. But anyone at the receiving end of John’s tics - be it black people, women, Jews, elderly people, children - need to accept that he, and any other disabled person with Tourette’s owes them no apology.

Behaviour: "the way in which one acts or conducts oneself, especially towards others." Or, "the way in which an animal or person behaves in response to a particular situation or stimulus."

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 10:06

It's really awful how the BBC and Bafta have escaped being vilified, while disabled and black people are being pitted against each other. It was ever thus, I guess.

TheEdenSide · 24/02/2026 10:06

OtterlyAstounding · 24/02/2026 10:05

Behaviour: "the way in which one acts or conducts oneself, especially towards others." Or, "the way in which an animal or person behaves in response to a particular situation or stimulus."

This definition exactly proves my point.
Tourette’s symptoms are not a behaviour.

TheEdenSide · 24/02/2026 10:07

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 10:06

It's really awful how the BBC and Bafta have escaped being vilified, while disabled and black people are being pitted against each other. It was ever thus, I guess.

The only people putting disabled and black people against each other are those insisting JD is racist, perpetuating falsehoods about Tourette’s and speaking on behalf of black people who never asked them to speak on their behald

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 10:10

TheEdenSide · 24/02/2026 10:07

The only people putting disabled and black people against each other are those insisting JD is racist, perpetuating falsehoods about Tourette’s and speaking on behalf of black people who never asked them to speak on their behald

Pl see the responses to that tweet above.that was shared. White supremacists saying black people are to blame..What is this if not pitting?

Also Black MN has quite a lot to say about this. They are just not saying it on the main forum where they are being told that the N word is not offensive.

OtterlyAstounding · 24/02/2026 10:11

TheEdenSide · 24/02/2026 10:06

This definition exactly proves my point.
Tourette’s symptoms are not a behaviour.

They literally are. An involuntary behaviour, particularly being provoked by certain situations or stimulus (like stress).

Regardless, his statement seems pretty comprehensive, read in full, and I'm a fool for not having searched for it prior to commenting. It's a real shame that the BBC and BAFTAs didn't bleep the word and avoid this furore.

Auroraloves · 24/02/2026 10:14

WhatSharonSaidNext · 24/02/2026 09:33

Of course he just involuntarily shouted the N word at that same precise moment that two black men just happened to appear on stage. What a bizarre coincidence. Would he still have blurted out the N word if it had been two white people on stage? Tourette’s is a lack of any filter so that you blurt out what pops into your head involuntarily. And what popped into his head when he saw those two black actors was the N word. Let’s not pretend otherwise. Odd that no derogatory words popped into his head to involuntary blurt out while white actors were speaking about white trash or gypsies.

I watched a documentary once where a teenage girl with Tourette’s was buying clothes in a shop with her mum and she blurted out the N word as she was being served. Guess what? It wasn’t a white person serving her at the time. How odd that of all the things that could have popped into her head to be blurted out when she was being served by a black person, it just happened to be the N word. Just the N word.

The very same BAFTAs, the BBC edited out an actor saying Free Palestine. But they couldn’t edit out someone shouting out the N word. How convenient. And people reckon it’s the rest of us that don’t understand the condition?

Omg you are very intellectually challenged aren’t you?

You clearly don’t understand the condition and just want to be offended

TheEdenSide · 24/02/2026 10:16

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 10:10

Pl see the responses to that tweet above.that was shared. White supremacists saying black people are to blame..What is this if not pitting?

Also Black MN has quite a lot to say about this. They are just not saying it on the main forum where they are being told that the N word is not offensive.

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The n word is not offensive in itself. Black people use it all the time, because they rightly say it’s about the context.

There is no racial context in this tics of a person with Tourette’s.
What aren’t you getting exactly?

Thwre are black people on social media saying it’s a fact that John is racist. They’re wrong - are we to just pretend they’re not wrong because of their skin colour. Seems pretty racist to me

TheEdenSide · 24/02/2026 10:19

OtterlyAstounding · 24/02/2026 10:11

They literally are. An involuntary behaviour, particularly being provoked by certain situations or stimulus (like stress).

Regardless, his statement seems pretty comprehensive, read in full, and I'm a fool for not having searched for it prior to commenting. It's a real shame that the BBC and BAFTAs didn't bleep the word and avoid this furore.

No it’s not a behaviour. Read the definition you posted - an involuntary disability doesn’t fit in with this. It’s about “how someone conducts themselves”. Disabled people showing symptoms CANNOT conduct themselves

I agree that the BBC are hugely at fault and should have bleeped it. Whilst he did nothing wrong, they should have recognised the impact this will have had on 3 innocent men now caught up in this. Shame on them.

I said this in another thread but a cynical part of me thinks that nobody watches awards shows, the rating are dire, and this was a good opportunity for the BBC to create discussions around the awards. And hasn’t it just. Maybe that’s a bit tinfoil hat but the BBC continues to fuck up at the expense of marginalised people, so I’m not in a generous mood when it comes to them.

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 10:19

TheEdenSide · 24/02/2026 10:16

The n word is not offensive in itself. Black people use it all the time, because they rightly say it’s about the context.

There is no racial context in this tics of a person with Tourette’s.
What aren’t you getting exactly?

Thwre are black people on social media saying it’s a fact that John is racist. They’re wrong - are we to just pretend they’re not wrong because of their skin colour. Seems pretty racist to me

I have said about a million times that JD is not to blame, is not racist and the BBC is completely at fault. If you have missed that, I have nothing more to say. Nobody is saying that black people can't be wrong, certainly not me. There's a finer point. I don't think I can explain any further and nor should I have to.

YorkshireGoldie · 24/02/2026 10:24

CharlotteRumpling · 24/02/2026 10:06

It's really awful how the BBC and Bafta have escaped being vilified, while disabled and black people are being pitted against each other. It was ever thus, I guess.

The BBC and BAFTAs are definitely escaping a lot of fire.

But disabled and black people pitting against each other? I don’t think so

Disabled people don’t have a choice about how their condition manifests,

Non disabled people do have a choice about how the react to this, you choose to be offended. You can choose not to.

TheEdenSide · 24/02/2026 10:25

YorkshireGoldie · 24/02/2026 10:24

The BBC and BAFTAs are definitely escaping a lot of fire.

But disabled and black people pitting against each other? I don’t think so

Disabled people don’t have a choice about how their condition manifests,

Non disabled people do have a choice about how the react to this, you choose to be offended. You can choose not to.

Agreed

Im sick of mealy mouthed statements from public bodies AFTER they have fucked up and caused harm

TempestTost · 24/02/2026 10:25

OtterlyAstounding · 24/02/2026 05:08

I'm not black, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but there's a big difference between a hard 'r' vs soft 'a', and also between a black person using the word vs a white person using it.

For instance, I don't particularly like it when women call each other 'bitches', but if a woman says 'hey bitch' in a friendly way, it does evoke a very different feeling to when a man shouts, 'bitch!' at me.

Even if that were so, and that's not necessarily accepted by everyone including all black people, it's not relevant.

The answer to "where would he have heard that word" is he would have heard it all over the films and music of these guys.

Foxx is a fucking idiot, his go to is that the guy must have meant it or he wouldn't have said it.

TheEdenSide · 24/02/2026 10:30

The whole hard R thing proves my point about Americans thinking their issues and nuances should be centered across the world. John Davidson said a hard R because he’s Scottish FFS. I’m embarrassed for them and their closed minded nonsense