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Can we stop acting like everyone has an equal capability to become well off?

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DeluluTaylor · 22/02/2026 21:46

Based on the pension thread but not about OP. All this ‘why do people spend their whole lives on MW’ is so woefully ignorant. Some people don’t have a choice.
Neurodiversity
confidence
childcare availability
institutional racism
learning disabilities
trauma and it’s impact
Lifelong insecure housing
Being able to speak English but not write it
So many, many reasons why it is difficult to climb up the ladder. I’ve never been able to as I don’t have the right skills for management. But the world needs more worker bees than managers!
Who do they think should do these jobs?

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UltraHorse · 27/02/2026 19:17

Sorry but how does knowing about the
Saxons help the average person get a job learning skills like cooking and woodwork make more sense to me l must have learnt about the Saxons I think I remember they had blonde hair try and shops or was there some important lesson about them I should have remebered

Ashahante · 27/02/2026 19:18

cardibach · 27/02/2026 18:24

Why is that a waste of time? We do t all want to live in a country full of ignorant people.
It’s Saxons incidentally

Nothing wrong about know about our own history and heritage.

UltraHorse · 27/02/2026 19:18

Sorry should say blonde hair and ships

cardibach · 27/02/2026 19:19

UltraHorse · 27/02/2026 19:17

Sorry but how does knowing about the
Saxons help the average person get a job learning skills like cooking and woodwork make more sense to me l must have learnt about the Saxons I think I remember they had blonde hair try and shops or was there some important lesson about them I should have remebered

Education and training arent the same thing. Philistine thinking.

Ashahante · 27/02/2026 19:22

Having knowledge of the world is a good thing

UltraHorse · 27/02/2026 19:23

Well what did they do please that would help me get a job I've never thought about them since I left school

UltraHorse · 27/02/2026 19:26

There are a lot more useful things you could learn

XenoBitch · 27/02/2026 19:38

UltraHorse · 27/02/2026 19:17

Sorry but how does knowing about the
Saxons help the average person get a job learning skills like cooking and woodwork make more sense to me l must have learnt about the Saxons I think I remember they had blonde hair try and shops or was there some important lesson about them I should have remebered

Because some people like learning about history, and it can lead to a career. Museum based, or a teacher. Consultants for TV/film. Authors. That is off the top of my head. School is teaching the basics, but also planting seeds for other things too.
I have a friend who is a history teacher, and she loves it.

cardibach · 27/02/2026 19:54

UltraHorse · 27/02/2026 19:23

Well what did they do please that would help me get a job I've never thought about them since I left school

Education. Isn’t. Just. To. Help. You. Get. A. Job

NeedAnyHelpWithThatPaperBag · 27/02/2026 19:54

The world of work has been hollowed out. There used to be so much more scope and room for all sorts of skill levels and entry level opportunities, with council housing taking the sting out of having a lower paid job. All thrown on the bonfire of maximising shareholder value.

XenoBitch · 27/02/2026 19:59

cardibach · 27/02/2026 19:54

Education. Isn’t. Just. To. Help. You. Get. A. Job

Yep.

According to the PP, why do they even teach drama in schools? That is not essential. Oh wait... then we would have no actors, no entertainment, and all the jobs created around that.

DeluluTaylor · 27/02/2026 19:59

@NeedAnyHelpWithThatPaperBag yup! They estimated that in the 19/20th century something like 70% of people with learning disabilities were employed, now it’s less than 10%. Employers are less flexible, less open minded and more judgemental. These people didnt just do simple work either, many did skilled work which gave them confidence and purpose.

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XenoBitch · 27/02/2026 20:04

DeluluTaylor · 27/02/2026 19:59

@NeedAnyHelpWithThatPaperBag yup! They estimated that in the 19/20th century something like 70% of people with learning disabilities were employed, now it’s less than 10%. Employers are less flexible, less open minded and more judgemental. These people didnt just do simple work either, many did skilled work which gave them confidence and purpose.

I know someone with LD who has been a shelf stacker for a very long time. Then a new boss came and said she had to work tills.... she lasted about 10 minutes. She can not comprehend numbers and cash. But ask her where a specific item is, and she is a whizz.

There are no shelf stacker jobs anymore. People working in supermarkets have to know how to do everything.. shelves, stock, tills, back room etc.

DeluluTaylor · 27/02/2026 20:12

@XenoBitchyes it’s really unfair. Not only that but people in trades have to be salespeople, retail assistants have to be health and safety officers, lifeguards have to have safeguarding training. I’m not saying it’s not progress but it’s cutting out so many people who don’t necessarily have those skills. Like my example of the band 4 nhs admin who have to do supervision, it’s bonkers we can’t adapt roles more for people.

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