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Our car storage strategy in the UK is a joke. AIBU?

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JacquesHarlow · 20/02/2026 10:21

Note: I'll put the disclaimers at the end of the thread to try and mitigate against the usual "never seen this before OP, you sound overly invested" gaslighters.

AIBU to think that for a small island with a rapidly growing population, our approach to car storage and parking is ... well, a joke?

And that we need to start restricting street parking somehow to stop the households who have three or four cars on the street, making life a misery for others and for visitors?

Hear me out please for a minute.

I admit I have mainly lived in suburbs or zone of major cities. And today, I have a driveway that can park 5 or 6 cars.

However in the nine places I've lived, and the many places I've visited, you see the same things:

  • It doesn't matter if it's a street of semi-detached 4 beds, or a row of Victorian terraces, or a new build estate: you find houses not using driveways, parking cars nose to nose, often on kerbs.
  • Even if a house has a driveway, the British driver's strange attitude to owning the street in front of their house, means they'd rather park on the road instead of the driveway. Meaning more congestion on the kerbside, fewer places for visitors etc.
  • And let's face it, many can't even reverse onto the driveway or pilot their car with enough skill to use it
  • Away from driveways, I have visited streets with HMOs where friends are tearing their hair out, people with 7 cars to one house. Imagine what happens to street parking then..
  • Or it doesn't even need to be an HMO. Billy big balls can buy vintage pick up trucks and line them up on the street nose to nose and take all available parking. As long as you're within the permit structure, or if no CPZ, then all the cars are taxed and MOT'd? Then you're fine to have as many cars as you want on the street
  • Finally, people who have three or four cars, tend to have the "advantage" in situations like this. They usually have one or two cars "in place", so if parking is tight, they can (and do) "shuffle things" around to ensure they keep their road positions.

So, AIBU to suggest another way? Can we limit the number of cars owned to two a household on a street, and with a designated storage place needing to be named for anything over 2 cars? Should all suburban streets have some form of visitor permits so that people aren't parking three streets away because big Billy has to be able to see his pickups from his window at all times? Can we have proper enforcement from councils to ensure wheelchair users, buggies, young people can actually traverse our streets without having to brush past metal which has taken up part of the kerb?

We're a small island with a lot of history. We weren't designed to have two rows of cars parked down either side of suburban and urban roads, with delivery drivers racing towards nervous nellies who then refuse to reverse.

We are however horribly in denial about parking. Councils are addicted to the revenue, or ignore the problems if they do exist, knowing that there's little or no alternative.

All I see on threads like these in the past are people saying

  • "My eldest daughter uses her car for work, I use mine, so does my DH, and we have something fun for the weekends. I have every right to my four cars on the street. YABU"
  • "You're advocating for 15 minute cities, you will own nothing and be happy, you're a communist, YABU"

Why are we so addicted to car use to the point where anything now goes?

AIBU to ask for a more forward thinking solution to car ownership, where people aren't owning five cars on one small suburban street, without a driveway? Surely car ownership is far too cheap if that's an option for any regular Joe.

What do you think...AIBU?

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Parisian14 · 20/02/2026 12:34

likelysuspect · 20/02/2026 10:46

Three words

No public transport.

Solve that and pedestrian access and ability to walk when a journey can manage that, and you solve a lot of problems.

You wont be getting me out of my car and Im a big walker.

I think new homes should be built with bigger garages so that they can actually put the car in the garage and wider roads so that any cars parked on the road dont have to be half on the pavement. All new estates have poor car storage in the naivety that 'we'll promote less car usage'. Most new estates are in the middle of no where or at least a public transport desert.

Where I live (new build) has deliberately designed narrow streets, so you can’t park outside your house on the road, otherwise would block the flow of traffic. Each house has a driveway that fits 3 cars, so not a disaster. Many of the homes have adult kids with their own cars. My neighbours have 4 cars. There is a lot of car moving goes on! It’s hard when trades people visit.

We have a bus once an hour, or every 90 mins in the evening. So not remotely suitable for commuting to work or getting anywhere you need to go!

it is a conundrum. The council say there isn’t demand for a more frequent bus service and user numbers don’t justify running a more regular bus. Guess what? That’s because every home has 2 plus cars because the public transport issues are dire.

Recent new builds in my area have been built deliberately with limited parking as the council are trying to limit car usage. The result, total carnage with on street parking.

This issue is not easily solved.

bumptybum · 20/02/2026 12:34

usedtobeaylis · 20/02/2026 10:43

Oh some people on this street also have garages that they don't use. There's a house that has the whole front of their house paved so they're still got two spaces for cars, plus a garage. The garage is part of a recent extension, and they don't use it for their cars. The reason I know they don't use it for their cars is because is got a bin shed built right in front of it. I don't know what the point in the garage is.

Maybe they built the garage for storage. Or to use as a utility and storage. That’s allowed you know

Pasta4Dinner · 20/02/2026 12:36

My neighbours built over their drive so they can’t use it. Currently it’s a couple and their 2 adult sons. One works part time outside the house but he gets to bring different cars home. Dad gives mum a lift to work and comes home.
On an average day they have 5 car parked which they rarely go out in. They probably could manage with 1.

MadisonAvenue · 20/02/2026 12:37

We’ve recently moved onto a new build estate and whoever planned it has ensured that there’s adequate off road parking for the size of each house.

We have a four bed house and have a decent sized garage and can easily fit our three cars onto the drive leading up to it. We’re prepared to take a few minutes to shuffle cars around if necessary which many on the estate don’t seem bothered to do.
Roads snake through the estate and parking is inconsiderate and also dangerous in places due to people parking on blind bends and corners rather than parking on their empty drives. Driving through you have no choice but to very carefully drive blindly on the wrong side of the road in places.

DarkOcean · 20/02/2026 12:38

Even when there is off-road parking available, it's often not practical to use. We technically have three off-road spaces but only one is usable. The other two are so narrow that you can pull the car in but can't actually get out. Even our third space is so close to the neighbours and the drive is so narrow that there is very little space to step out of the car. There is no point in saying that every house needs to have x spaces if they can't be really be used.

myfriendsellshouses · 20/02/2026 12:39

YANBU but I don't know what the answer is. I live in a very small rural town. As each elderly person dies off, their home is bought by a family. It then goes from 0 vehicles to at least 2, sometimes more if the DC are old enough. It is the same in most of the villages. The streets weren't built for multiple parking outside tiny cottages. One family locally had 5 vehicles and their drive only holds 2. Each person works in a different place and there is very limited public transport. People have to have cars even to get to the train station.

Your answer just doesn't work. If more than 2 cars were banned, then people couldn't get to work.

In the main streets, they only have room for parking on one side and some don't have any room at all. Thankfully I have a driveway and did only consider properties with a drive when I moved from a place that only had on-road parking

People won't park further away and walk though, that is the main problem, and if they do then generally they are taking somebody else's parking outside their house.

Ninerainbows · 20/02/2026 12:39

Parisian14 · 20/02/2026 12:34

Where I live (new build) has deliberately designed narrow streets, so you can’t park outside your house on the road, otherwise would block the flow of traffic. Each house has a driveway that fits 3 cars, so not a disaster. Many of the homes have adult kids with their own cars. My neighbours have 4 cars. There is a lot of car moving goes on! It’s hard when trades people visit.

We have a bus once an hour, or every 90 mins in the evening. So not remotely suitable for commuting to work or getting anywhere you need to go!

it is a conundrum. The council say there isn’t demand for a more frequent bus service and user numbers don’t justify running a more regular bus. Guess what? That’s because every home has 2 plus cars because the public transport issues are dire.

Recent new builds in my area have been built deliberately with limited parking as the council are trying to limit car usage. The result, total carnage with on street parking.

This issue is not easily solved.

I agree. You can tell when people posting have never lived somewhere like I do - quite densely populated area of the SW with lots of small towns but they are in different counties (Wiltshire/Somerset/Bath and Northeast Somerset) with different councils and different bus companies. Many towns here don't even have a train station, or if they do it's 2 miles out of the town centre (looking at you, Frome). I only work 5 miles away but the town I work in has one one-carriage train an hour, often cancelled!

As for car sharing - the odds of someone going from my town to work town for an 8am start and 1pm finish are close to zero.

mondaytosunday · 20/02/2026 12:39

There are new rules coming in for London congestion zone. Currently if you live inside you get a 90% discount on it, but in 2027 this will only apply to fully electric cars. So everyone else will pay full charge (currently £18/day). All cars have to pay the ULEZ charge if that qualifies. And I’ve seen in recent planning permission for a 35 flat block that will have no parking and the residents will not be able to get a parking permit. Ironically it’s being built on an area of garages that are little used! So there’s some, albeit localised, effort to control the amount of cars.
I live in a terraced street in Zone 3. I’d say most have one car, some have no cars, maybe a small minority have two. Cost of first permit is £145-185, second is £195-245. I’d say only one in 25 houses has off street parking. I think charging even more for second cars is an idea. 90% of the time I can park outside or one or two car lengths from my door.
I haven’t seen the case of people having driveways and not using them. That does seem odd and doesn’t it affect their insurance? I realise the companies are not going around to check!
One way of reducing car ownership is to whack higher taxes on buying them. But this will disproportionately affect those lower income families. And restricting the amount of cars per household - that’s a minefield too. I can’t see the visitor permits working - if Joe Bloggs has five cars it doesn’t matter to him if someone has a permit if he’s already parked. And on our street they are extremely hot on ticketing - if you park on the pavement when not allowed to you’ll get one for sure. Maybe more traffic wardens are needed.

WeWillAllGoTogether · 20/02/2026 12:44

@SusanChurchouse
A few of my neighbours were having a convo the other day about second cars and how, for all of us, a second car would be useful such a small amount of the time and it would be nice if there was a communal one we could book out when we needed it. I’m not sure it would work in practice though.

There is such a thing, in some parts of the country! They're called car clubs Smile e.g. we're members of this https://www.enterprisecarclub.co.uk/ You just book the cars on an app, they're parked in various locations around the city and also there are different types of vehicles. So for example amongst our nearby club cars we have a choice of petrol, hybrid or electric ranging from little hatchbacks to comfy mini-SUVs. In fact one of those club cars is located in a new-build estate which must be very handy for all the neighbours! Elsewhere in the city there's estate cars, vans etc, which we've used when moving large things. You can book from hours to days. Another bonus is we can use the same club's cars in other cities so for example if going to a rural place in the Southeast, we'll get the train to London and pick up a club car from there - saves the long distance driving!

Unfortunately car clubs only have locations in areas of high population density (and probably also a certain level of eco-friendly "crunchiness").

Balloonhearts · 20/02/2026 12:46

beAsensible1 · 20/02/2026 11:53

yes but a lot of people underestimate the cost of the car vs commute.

they never add in the costs of repairs, insurance etc.

the costs isn't just the petrol. its all of it!

Adding up my tax, insurance, mot, service and petrol, my car costs approximately £38 per week to run. The cheapest bus ticket is £50 a week and that is limited to my local town, I'd have to pay extra to go out of the town.

MrsSlocombesCat · 20/02/2026 12:46

I was just thinking about this this morning. I live in a two bed terrace on a new build estate of multiple sized houses from flats to five beds. I have two allocated parking spaces at the rear and as far as I am aware everyone on the estate has either a drive or what I have. It's crazy the amount of people who park on the road though. My next door neighbour has a Range Rover that looks almost as big as their house parked at the front most days. I think the problem is that she gets home before her husband but then he leaves before her in the morning. So it's a tiny bit inconvenient. I hate parking on the road because I have a hybrid car and my catalytic converter was nicked a few years ago, at my previous address. But even there, we had a car park at the back but there were nose to nose cars and trucks at the front. I parked on the road occasionally, and regretted it!

MardyMillylala · 20/02/2026 12:47

I agree wholeheartedly! I live in a small terraced house with no frontage to convert to a drive. NDN's have 3 cars including adult sons who still lives at home & I struggle to park a 3 door Mini at times. The parking situation is made worse by several houses bringing transit sized work vans home on a weekend.

Prettyflowerstoo · 20/02/2026 12:48

A big issue is public transport which is rubbish, unreliable, no space to carry shopping on never mind if you have pram little ones mobility issues and in some areas just as you think great we can now use the bus to reach blah station, three months later they cancel it completely or cut it back to useless times of day. Another issue is the cost of housing that have room for a drive and planning permission for homes without thinking about cars like bedrooms.

livingthenotebook · 20/02/2026 12:57

It should be taken into account when they are putting plans in for new homes. There are a lot of new homes with only space for 1 car and some of the 4/5 bed only have space for 2. We had 5 cars between us once the kids started driving and only a double drive, living at the end of a cul de sac was an issue, we ended up converting the front garden into another 2 spaces. Some of the neighbours didn't take that approach and were in the same situation, our street now is an absolute nightmare for parking and driving down quite frankly too. A lot of people park right opposite another car, or right opposite peoples drives. The bin men struggle to get through some days, we had an ambulance knocking on peoples doors to get down the road not so long back.

Ireallycantthinkofagoodone · 20/02/2026 13:02

GingerBeverage · 20/02/2026 10:38

There’s a conversion maisonette near us that uses ROAD CONES (they have 6 of them in the front garden) to reserve the 2 spaces in front of their place.

They have 3 cars so the third at least they do park where there is space but it does my head in how VVIP they must think they are.

Plus they block an e-charging post.

Can you not just pick up the cones and place them back in their garden? No-one owns the road in front of their house!

Myskyscolour · 20/02/2026 13:06

The obvious solution would be to only grant one parking permit per address, none if the property has a driveway. At least in urban areas.

TooBored1 · 20/02/2026 13:10

You are not being unreasonable at all. Even more annoying us when they store their cars on space designed for others, eg parking on pavements or grass verges that are the only pedestrian access along a road or in the cycle lanes.

beAsensible1 · 20/02/2026 13:10

Parisian14 · 20/02/2026 12:34

Where I live (new build) has deliberately designed narrow streets, so you can’t park outside your house on the road, otherwise would block the flow of traffic. Each house has a driveway that fits 3 cars, so not a disaster. Many of the homes have adult kids with their own cars. My neighbours have 4 cars. There is a lot of car moving goes on! It’s hard when trades people visit.

We have a bus once an hour, or every 90 mins in the evening. So not remotely suitable for commuting to work or getting anywhere you need to go!

it is a conundrum. The council say there isn’t demand for a more frequent bus service and user numbers don’t justify running a more regular bus. Guess what? That’s because every home has 2 plus cars because the public transport issues are dire.

Recent new builds in my area have been built deliberately with limited parking as the council are trying to limit car usage. The result, total carnage with on street parking.

This issue is not easily solved.

this is the main issue with councils, there will never be demand when services are inadequate. you have to provide the services first then the people will come.

Mama2many73 · 20/02/2026 13:12

All new houses should have at least 2 spaces per home, wider roads in estates but the builders won't want that as = less houses.
Public transport can be atrocious. Before I drove, I had to catch several buses to get to work in a village. By bus it was about 2hrs with connections (also expensive as different companies with no general bus pass), by car it was no more than 20mins!

firef1y · 20/02/2026 13:17

MidnightPatrol · 20/02/2026 10:34

I don’t think people are parking 3 or 4 cars on residential streets really, unless an HMO.

We are only allowed two permits for our household (albeit only have one car).

Where I live nearly all housing stock is Victorian - so built without cars in mind. No drives.

Very small (ruralish) road here. We have at least 4 houses where including work vans there are 3-4 vehicles for a household.

It makes parking a nightmare, with regular parking wars.

HangryBrickShark · 20/02/2026 13:20

I visited London 30 plus years ago for a concert and remember parking by Buckingham Palace in a stacking car park where all the cars were stacked one on top of the other. Maybe this will be the future.

Our car storage strategy in the UK is a joke. AIBU?
2boyzNosleep · 20/02/2026 14:46

I dont think its necessarily government not wanting to do something, limiting cars per household would likely affect people's careers.

Housing is out of control expensive, as PPs have mentioned, adult children are living in the parental home & there are increasing HMOs.

Many people do need cars to get to/from work, not everyone lives near good public transport or can afford to live closer to their work. Some workplaces are outside of public transport routes. Limiting cars per household could potentially impact someone's ability to work-according to Google only 14% of the workforce in England are fully remote working, and 40%-70% of the entire workforce need a car to get to work (depending on location).

Sofado · 20/02/2026 15:01

Mama2many73 · 20/02/2026 13:12

All new houses should have at least 2 spaces per home, wider roads in estates but the builders won't want that as = less houses.
Public transport can be atrocious. Before I drove, I had to catch several buses to get to work in a village. By bus it was about 2hrs with connections (also expensive as different companies with no general bus pass), by car it was no more than 20mins!

Most houses, new or otherwise, don’t have driveways or parking spaces at all where I live.

goplacidlyamidthenoise · 20/02/2026 15:08

waterbobble · 20/02/2026 10:32

A big issue is older dc living at home for longer so more cars per household. People with longer commutes, both parents working so again more cars. Houses divided into flats so more cars.

This.

And given the poor employment market for young people/newly graduated dc resulting in them remaining in/returning to the family home, it's been getting worse.

@JacquesHarlow those who've only lived in major cities with good public transport are not ideally placed to prescribe a solution for parking issues nationwide. Public transport in our city is inadequate and unreliable and has been so for as long as I've lived here (over 20 years).

My dc would not have been able to have the various jobs they had after getting a driving licence without having use of a car to get to them. (provincial city). They needed/need those school/Uni holiday jobs to save funds for Uni and then to supplement their Uni living expenses as I'm unable to afford to close the funding gap in full given that their student loans don't even cover their accommodation cost. We currently have 3 cars in a parking restricted area allowing each property only 2 permits.
We have to pay to rent a garage a few streets away as we live in a terrace/semi detached Edwardian housing, very few of which have off-road parking.

What I would suggest is that in resident parking areas, those properties with off-road parking should be restricted to 1 street parking permit instead of 2 to reflect that they can already park 1 or more cars off-road.

ContentedAlpaca · 20/02/2026 15:12

Mapletree1985 · 20/02/2026 11:28

Most people could easily get rid of their car and replace it with an electric bike for daily use. They could then hire a car when they actually need one for a long journey.

I don't think most people could. Our roads are not bike friendly at all and public transport is a joke.
I haven't sat on a bike since I was 13. Those electric bikes are huge! Friends have suggested I borrow theirs on many occasions and I think I'd need a couple of valium to take them up on the other.
My kids only ever got to ride on holiday as we'd have had to transport their bike on or in the car to somewhere they could safely ride them, so they are less proficient that I was. (I used to be able to ride with no handlebars).