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Our car storage strategy in the UK is a joke. AIBU?

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JacquesHarlow · 20/02/2026 10:21

Note: I'll put the disclaimers at the end of the thread to try and mitigate against the usual "never seen this before OP, you sound overly invested" gaslighters.

AIBU to think that for a small island with a rapidly growing population, our approach to car storage and parking is ... well, a joke?

And that we need to start restricting street parking somehow to stop the households who have three or four cars on the street, making life a misery for others and for visitors?

Hear me out please for a minute.

I admit I have mainly lived in suburbs or zone of major cities. And today, I have a driveway that can park 5 or 6 cars.

However in the nine places I've lived, and the many places I've visited, you see the same things:

  • It doesn't matter if it's a street of semi-detached 4 beds, or a row of Victorian terraces, or a new build estate: you find houses not using driveways, parking cars nose to nose, often on kerbs.
  • Even if a house has a driveway, the British driver's strange attitude to owning the street in front of their house, means they'd rather park on the road instead of the driveway. Meaning more congestion on the kerbside, fewer places for visitors etc.
  • And let's face it, many can't even reverse onto the driveway or pilot their car with enough skill to use it
  • Away from driveways, I have visited streets with HMOs where friends are tearing their hair out, people with 7 cars to one house. Imagine what happens to street parking then..
  • Or it doesn't even need to be an HMO. Billy big balls can buy vintage pick up trucks and line them up on the street nose to nose and take all available parking. As long as you're within the permit structure, or if no CPZ, then all the cars are taxed and MOT'd? Then you're fine to have as many cars as you want on the street
  • Finally, people who have three or four cars, tend to have the "advantage" in situations like this. They usually have one or two cars "in place", so if parking is tight, they can (and do) "shuffle things" around to ensure they keep their road positions.

So, AIBU to suggest another way? Can we limit the number of cars owned to two a household on a street, and with a designated storage place needing to be named for anything over 2 cars? Should all suburban streets have some form of visitor permits so that people aren't parking three streets away because big Billy has to be able to see his pickups from his window at all times? Can we have proper enforcement from councils to ensure wheelchair users, buggies, young people can actually traverse our streets without having to brush past metal which has taken up part of the kerb?

We're a small island with a lot of history. We weren't designed to have two rows of cars parked down either side of suburban and urban roads, with delivery drivers racing towards nervous nellies who then refuse to reverse.

We are however horribly in denial about parking. Councils are addicted to the revenue, or ignore the problems if they do exist, knowing that there's little or no alternative.

All I see on threads like these in the past are people saying

  • "My eldest daughter uses her car for work, I use mine, so does my DH, and we have something fun for the weekends. I have every right to my four cars on the street. YABU"
  • "You're advocating for 15 minute cities, you will own nothing and be happy, you're a communist, YABU"

Why are we so addicted to car use to the point where anything now goes?

AIBU to ask for a more forward thinking solution to car ownership, where people aren't owning five cars on one small suburban street, without a driveway? Surely car ownership is far too cheap if that's an option for any regular Joe.

What do you think...AIBU?

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VivienneDelacroix · 24/02/2026 20:17

MidnightPatrol · 20/02/2026 10:34

I don’t think people are parking 3 or 4 cars on residential streets really, unless an HMO.

We are only allowed two permits for our household (albeit only have one car).

Where I live nearly all housing stock is Victorian - so built without cars in mind. No drives.

I think they are. I don't mind people parking in front of my house - I don't own the road and we have a drive at the back, which is unusual for our road.

However, there absolutely are households who park several cars on the road.

My neighbour (who also has a drive) parks the work van and and the wife's car on the drive. The husband's car and both of their children's cars are parked on the street.

I don't think it's entirely down to young people leaving home later in life (though it's definitely a factor), but also down to the over-reliance on cars and the mindset that everyone must have their own car. When I was a teenager I knew one person who had his own car and the rest borrowed their parents'. If their parents needed the car, the teenager found alternative ways to get around (just as they had before passing their test). It seems how that young people have their own as soon as they pass their test (if not before).

Badbadbunny · 25/02/2026 12:05

@VivienneDelacroix

I don't think it's entirely down to young people leaving home later in life (though it's definitely a factor), but also down to the over-reliance on cars and the mindset that everyone must have their own car. When I was a teenager I knew one person who had his own car and the rest borrowed their parents'. If their parents needed the car, the teenager found alternative ways to get around (just as they had before passing their test). It seems how that young people have their own as soon as they pass their test (if not before).

A lot of it is down to poor public transport options. Around here, small city and a couple of small towns, in a rural area, the public transport is utter crap. Learning to drive at 17 and getting a small/cheap car once passed is pretty normal "rite of passage" for youngster as it's pretty much essential for anyone wanting any kind of life outside the house. It's not changed in the 40 years since I passed my test! When I was 17 nearly all my school friends were taking lessons in sixth form and there was a row of cars parked on the roads around the school of sixth formers. Exactly the same when my son passed his test just 4 months after his 17th birthday (along with most of his school friends).

His school was "only" five miles from our home, but there were no direct buses, so he had to leave home at 7.30, long walk to first bus stop, change buses, then long walk from bus station to school, just to get there for 9am! That's a massive incentive to learn to drive and get a car to avoid a 90 minute "commute" to get to/from your nearest school that's only five miles away!!

Same with our local league football club - not on a bus route at all. Nearest bus stop (other than a long protracted all around the houses route) is a mile and a half away from the stadium and only has an hourly bus service on a Saturday afternoon, and only one single decker bus, so everyone can't get on it anyway! For evening matches, that route doesn't run at all. Hence, roads around the stadium packed with spectator cars.

I really don't think people in the bigger cities realise just how public transport is so poor in smaller cities, towns and rural areas and how driving and car ownership is pretty much an essential life skill.

Grendel7 · 28/02/2026 17:44

JacquesHarlow · 20/02/2026 10:21

Note: I'll put the disclaimers at the end of the thread to try and mitigate against the usual "never seen this before OP, you sound overly invested" gaslighters.

AIBU to think that for a small island with a rapidly growing population, our approach to car storage and parking is ... well, a joke?

And that we need to start restricting street parking somehow to stop the households who have three or four cars on the street, making life a misery for others and for visitors?

Hear me out please for a minute.

I admit I have mainly lived in suburbs or zone of major cities. And today, I have a driveway that can park 5 or 6 cars.

However in the nine places I've lived, and the many places I've visited, you see the same things:

  • It doesn't matter if it's a street of semi-detached 4 beds, or a row of Victorian terraces, or a new build estate: you find houses not using driveways, parking cars nose to nose, often on kerbs.
  • Even if a house has a driveway, the British driver's strange attitude to owning the street in front of their house, means they'd rather park on the road instead of the driveway. Meaning more congestion on the kerbside, fewer places for visitors etc.
  • And let's face it, many can't even reverse onto the driveway or pilot their car with enough skill to use it
  • Away from driveways, I have visited streets with HMOs where friends are tearing their hair out, people with 7 cars to one house. Imagine what happens to street parking then..
  • Or it doesn't even need to be an HMO. Billy big balls can buy vintage pick up trucks and line them up on the street nose to nose and take all available parking. As long as you're within the permit structure, or if no CPZ, then all the cars are taxed and MOT'd? Then you're fine to have as many cars as you want on the street
  • Finally, people who have three or four cars, tend to have the "advantage" in situations like this. They usually have one or two cars "in place", so if parking is tight, they can (and do) "shuffle things" around to ensure they keep their road positions.

So, AIBU to suggest another way? Can we limit the number of cars owned to two a household on a street, and with a designated storage place needing to be named for anything over 2 cars? Should all suburban streets have some form of visitor permits so that people aren't parking three streets away because big Billy has to be able to see his pickups from his window at all times? Can we have proper enforcement from councils to ensure wheelchair users, buggies, young people can actually traverse our streets without having to brush past metal which has taken up part of the kerb?

We're a small island with a lot of history. We weren't designed to have two rows of cars parked down either side of suburban and urban roads, with delivery drivers racing towards nervous nellies who then refuse to reverse.

We are however horribly in denial about parking. Councils are addicted to the revenue, or ignore the problems if they do exist, knowing that there's little or no alternative.

All I see on threads like these in the past are people saying

  • "My eldest daughter uses her car for work, I use mine, so does my DH, and we have something fun for the weekends. I have every right to my four cars on the street. YABU"
  • "You're advocating for 15 minute cities, you will own nothing and be happy, you're a communist, YABU"

Why are we so addicted to car use to the point where anything now goes?

AIBU to ask for a more forward thinking solution to car ownership, where people aren't owning five cars on one small suburban street, without a driveway? Surely car ownership is far too cheap if that's an option for any regular Joe.

What do you think...AIBU?

Hang on, you have 5/6 cars but no one else can!!

JacquesHarlow · 01/03/2026 15:05

Grendel7 · 28/02/2026 17:44

Hang on, you have 5/6 cars but no one else can!!

No, @Grendel7 , that is NOT what I wrote.

In my OP I said:

I have a driveway that can park 5 or 6 cars.

I didn't say that I own 5 or 6 cars .

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JacquesHarlow · 02/03/2026 06:42

Maybe all the people on this thread who claim “I’ve never seen people park lots of cars on the street OP”, could come and check this new thread out and see just how people’s lived experience is of car wars in the UK

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5497620-to-buy-a-cheap-car-and-park-it-infront-of-my-house-so-no-one-else-can?page=6&reply=150849463

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Squirrelchops1 · 02/03/2026 06:50

My neighbour is so obsessed with keeping their on the road spot that they leave their drive empty all the time. (We each have a garage and 1 drive space but no one uses their garage for parking).The irony is, it's a lowered kerb so it actually is there spot so if someone parks there they can legitimately ask them to please move.
However, instead they're part of the problem. If they parked in their drive it would actually give more room for the next house down, that's a 3 car household. Why can't they say 'use our spot unless we've got visitors then I'll ask you to move please'.
My partner tries to engage me in on the road turf parking but I won't have it. If someone gets the space outside my house then they do, it's no big deal

Plun · 02/03/2026 07:21

People need to look at their Land Registry document. The area of land you own does not include the road and pavement outside your property.

I don’t understand why people who have a driveway don’t park on it. The only time my parents don’t park on their driveway is when DF cleans the driveway - twice a year. Then when had scaffolding for the roof over garage.

Then today’s housing isn’t future proof. Still build garages which no car is narrow enough to park in it. My parents live in a house built in 2003/4. They can park their 10 year car inside garage but unable to open the door to get out.

Or if houses have 4 bedrooms provide just ONE car space!

JacquesHarlow · 03/03/2026 07:22

Plun · 02/03/2026 07:21

People need to look at their Land Registry document. The area of land you own does not include the road and pavement outside your property.

I don’t understand why people who have a driveway don’t park on it. The only time my parents don’t park on their driveway is when DF cleans the driveway - twice a year. Then when had scaffolding for the roof over garage.

Then today’s housing isn’t future proof. Still build garages which no car is narrow enough to park in it. My parents live in a house built in 2003/4. They can park their 10 year car inside garage but unable to open the door to get out.

Or if houses have 4 bedrooms provide just ONE car space!

I don’t understand why people who have a driveway don’t park on it.

It is inextricably linked to this...

People need to look at their Land Registry document. The area of land you own does not include the road and pavement outside your property.

You are 100% correct @Plun in the legality of it all. I agree with you

but the mentality of the British homeowner cannot be disregarded. If they have a perfectly serviceable driveway with room for their car, many will not use it.

It's to do with "I don't want to have to look at the neighbour's vehicle" kind of thing

In addition, some neighbours park so close to the dropped kerb itself, that it makes manoeuvring onto the driveway difficult.

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OonaStubbs · 03/03/2026 20:33

As far as people having garages which are wide enough to park the car but not to open the doors, this man has a garage only 2 inches wider than his car and he manages to park in it ok.

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Bryonyberries · 03/03/2026 20:39

We need cheap and reliable public transport that actually connects and goes where people want. Until that happens people need cars for work and getting children to school.

I am rural Suffolk. I do have a bus service that runs the main road between two towns. However the bus doesn’t actually go into the villages where people live and the main road can be a two or three mile walk from the village centre. That isn’t very feasible for elderly users who want to do their shopping. Taxi is expensive. Buses don’t start running until 6.30am and finish 6pm. Not much good for commuters who aren’t in 9-5 jobs. Plus they are expensive compared with London transport prices.

GondorCallsForAid · 03/03/2026 20:43

YANBU.

DH and I have three cars between us (daily drive each, plus my beloved classic car).

We currently have one on the drive, one on the road outside and the classic lives at my dad's house.

We are moving imminently and we're buying a house with enough drive space to park all three off the road. It was the only non-negotiable we had for our prospective home and the entire property search was based around drive space.

The guy opposite my dad has seven cars. 🤯 Three are in his garage/on his drive but the other four are all over the shop.

Plun · 03/03/2026 21:59

Public transport is a no for my work. Two buses each way. There is a multi operator ticket but it doesn’t cover the town where I work.

I travelled to work on bus once and it was crazy. Left an hour earlier than driving and got home an hour later. Plus about £6 worse off per day

As required to walk between the two bus stations- ten minutes walk away

lilkitten · 05/03/2026 10:49

Badbadbunny · 25/02/2026 12:05

@VivienneDelacroix

I don't think it's entirely down to young people leaving home later in life (though it's definitely a factor), but also down to the over-reliance on cars and the mindset that everyone must have their own car. When I was a teenager I knew one person who had his own car and the rest borrowed their parents'. If their parents needed the car, the teenager found alternative ways to get around (just as they had before passing their test). It seems how that young people have their own as soon as they pass their test (if not before).

A lot of it is down to poor public transport options. Around here, small city and a couple of small towns, in a rural area, the public transport is utter crap. Learning to drive at 17 and getting a small/cheap car once passed is pretty normal "rite of passage" for youngster as it's pretty much essential for anyone wanting any kind of life outside the house. It's not changed in the 40 years since I passed my test! When I was 17 nearly all my school friends were taking lessons in sixth form and there was a row of cars parked on the roads around the school of sixth formers. Exactly the same when my son passed his test just 4 months after his 17th birthday (along with most of his school friends).

His school was "only" five miles from our home, but there were no direct buses, so he had to leave home at 7.30, long walk to first bus stop, change buses, then long walk from bus station to school, just to get there for 9am! That's a massive incentive to learn to drive and get a car to avoid a 90 minute "commute" to get to/from your nearest school that's only five miles away!!

Same with our local league football club - not on a bus route at all. Nearest bus stop (other than a long protracted all around the houses route) is a mile and a half away from the stadium and only has an hourly bus service on a Saturday afternoon, and only one single decker bus, so everyone can't get on it anyway! For evening matches, that route doesn't run at all. Hence, roads around the stadium packed with spectator cars.

I really don't think people in the bigger cities realise just how public transport is so poor in smaller cities, towns and rural areas and how driving and car ownership is pretty much an essential life skill.

We're the same, DD's school is 6 miles from us and is in what was a field until they built that and the housing estate next to it. But there's no regular public transport that way - it's the edge of town, made for commuters, and a long way from any public transport. They have a private school bus, but it's £1,000 a year for a pass and I can't afford that, so I have to drop her and pick her up. When I leave in the morning, the parent car park is full of empty Post-16 kids cars.
I finished sixth form in 1996, I only remember one sixth former having a car, but it was in the centre of town and buses stopped on the main road by the school every 15 minutes, it was a very different situation.

Tableforjoan · 05/03/2026 13:53

Also why the reluctance in the U.K. for mopeds. In many other European countries they use mopeds a lot more for just zooming around yes many or most still have the big family car but for a single person trip not everyone needs an entire empty car.

brunettemic · 05/03/2026 14:07

What’s the cause of the issue though? That’s what needs addressing. Adult DC living at home? Why are they living at home, quite possibly the housing market is f*cked being a major issue.

DdraigGoch · 07/03/2026 15:20

OonaStubbs · 07/03/2026 14:30

world’s narrowest fiat panda drives as fully functional electric car

We need narrow cars like this to save space. They could be parked two or even three to a parking space.

With vehicles that narrow it seems excessive to have four wheels. You could just have a bakfiets.

Flamingojune · 07/03/2026 16:36

OonaStubbs · 07/03/2026 14:30

world’s narrowest fiat panda drives as fully functional electric car

We need narrow cars like this to save space. They could be parked two or even three to a parking space.

Narrow vehicles - like a bike?

5MinuteArgument · 07/03/2026 16:52

I agree this is a big and growing problem. However I don't see a solution. We have moved from a high trust society to a low trust society and people want to have cars and they want their children to have cars (especially their daughters).

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