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Our car storage strategy in the UK is a joke. AIBU?

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JacquesHarlow · 20/02/2026 10:21

Note: I'll put the disclaimers at the end of the thread to try and mitigate against the usual "never seen this before OP, you sound overly invested" gaslighters.

AIBU to think that for a small island with a rapidly growing population, our approach to car storage and parking is ... well, a joke?

And that we need to start restricting street parking somehow to stop the households who have three or four cars on the street, making life a misery for others and for visitors?

Hear me out please for a minute.

I admit I have mainly lived in suburbs or zone of major cities. And today, I have a driveway that can park 5 or 6 cars.

However in the nine places I've lived, and the many places I've visited, you see the same things:

  • It doesn't matter if it's a street of semi-detached 4 beds, or a row of Victorian terraces, or a new build estate: you find houses not using driveways, parking cars nose to nose, often on kerbs.
  • Even if a house has a driveway, the British driver's strange attitude to owning the street in front of their house, means they'd rather park on the road instead of the driveway. Meaning more congestion on the kerbside, fewer places for visitors etc.
  • And let's face it, many can't even reverse onto the driveway or pilot their car with enough skill to use it
  • Away from driveways, I have visited streets with HMOs where friends are tearing their hair out, people with 7 cars to one house. Imagine what happens to street parking then..
  • Or it doesn't even need to be an HMO. Billy big balls can buy vintage pick up trucks and line them up on the street nose to nose and take all available parking. As long as you're within the permit structure, or if no CPZ, then all the cars are taxed and MOT'd? Then you're fine to have as many cars as you want on the street
  • Finally, people who have three or four cars, tend to have the "advantage" in situations like this. They usually have one or two cars "in place", so if parking is tight, they can (and do) "shuffle things" around to ensure they keep their road positions.

So, AIBU to suggest another way? Can we limit the number of cars owned to two a household on a street, and with a designated storage place needing to be named for anything over 2 cars? Should all suburban streets have some form of visitor permits so that people aren't parking three streets away because big Billy has to be able to see his pickups from his window at all times? Can we have proper enforcement from councils to ensure wheelchair users, buggies, young people can actually traverse our streets without having to brush past metal which has taken up part of the kerb?

We're a small island with a lot of history. We weren't designed to have two rows of cars parked down either side of suburban and urban roads, with delivery drivers racing towards nervous nellies who then refuse to reverse.

We are however horribly in denial about parking. Councils are addicted to the revenue, or ignore the problems if they do exist, knowing that there's little or no alternative.

All I see on threads like these in the past are people saying

  • "My eldest daughter uses her car for work, I use mine, so does my DH, and we have something fun for the weekends. I have every right to my four cars on the street. YABU"
  • "You're advocating for 15 minute cities, you will own nothing and be happy, you're a communist, YABU"

Why are we so addicted to car use to the point where anything now goes?

AIBU to ask for a more forward thinking solution to car ownership, where people aren't owning five cars on one small suburban street, without a driveway? Surely car ownership is far too cheap if that's an option for any regular Joe.

What do you think...AIBU?

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Badbadbunny · 20/02/2026 11:56

TheKittenswithMittens · 20/02/2026 10:52

There are always threads here about cost of living debt etc. Nobody suggests get rid of the car. It must cost at least 300 quid a month to own a car, and that's before you put petrol in it.

Commuting to/from work can easily cost that, and more. £300 works out at only £15 per day for a 20 day working month.

The train fare from my town to the next nearest town is £15.50 return per day, and then there'd also be the bus far to get from home to/from the train station which would be another £6 per day. Not to mention the car journey takes 25-30 minutes but the train alone (station to station) takes 90 minutes because you have to change twice, plus the bus to/from the station which is another 10 minutes each way.

It's hard for people living in areas with good public transport to understand, but most of the population don't live in the big cities, so suffer poor and expensive public transport options.

CornishYarg · 20/02/2026 11:57

KimberleyClark · 20/02/2026 11:45

Our house is a 1930s semi. The garage, added in the 50s, is at the end of a very narrow drive (cars were a lot smaller then). It’s been a lot more use as a home office than it ever was as a garage.

Yes. The development we live in was built 20 years ago and included two off-road parking spaces per house - a garage with a drive in front. DH and I don't have massive cars; think Ford Focus sized hatchbacks. But it's a real struggle to get them in the garage. We have to fold the wing mirrors in and drive very carefully past the frame of the door. Then we can only open the door partially so it's a real squeeze to get out and we've both got scuff marks on our car doors from the garage wall. Unsurprisingly, hardly anyone else puts their car in their garage so there's loads parked on the street.

No idea why the developers built garages that were too small to house anything but a small car.

likelysuspect · 20/02/2026 12:00

MikeRafone · 20/02/2026 11:52

Not sure - what are the laws around electric bikes? He’s not allowed a driving licence for medical reasons so probably shouldn’t ride an electric bike even if legal

you don't need a licence to ride an electric bike

She's not asking about that, she is saying that if he isnt deemed as medically fit to drive then cycling would be the same thing

If he came crashing into you on his bike an dyou found out he had a medical condition which means his decision making/reflexes/balance/eyesight meant he cant drive, you'd be happy with the fact he got on a bike would you?

MikeRafone · 20/02/2026 12:00

Kookykoala · 20/02/2026 11:55

@MikeRafone haha well yes that is true. But an example of the issue isn’t it. We all unfortunately need our cars to get to work, due to our location we have no reliable public transport to facilitate getting rid of a car. So we shall continue to clog the road. As does the remainder of our area.

No it's not an example of the issue, you choose to make it about you. 70% of commuters work within 5 miles of home, 20% of the uk population live rurally

beAsensible1 · 20/02/2026 12:01

YouAreEntitledToMyOpinion · 20/02/2026 11:40

I'm lucky and live out in the shires where it's not a massive problem but can imagine it's a PITA in cities. Not sure what the answer is OP, but is this just a UK issue? Have you experience of a country that has a good car storage strategy that you would like us to copy?

living in a city i don't find it an issue really. people have permits and park on the street. Most people commute using public transport, very few drive. a lot of the rush hour traffic round here is school runs.

our car park is very rarely full and neither is our on street parking. loads of people have started cycling much more. and not just men, but i'm seeing a lot of older women of all ethnicities out on bikes.

MikeRafone · 20/02/2026 12:01

likelysuspect · 20/02/2026 12:00

She's not asking about that, she is saying that if he isnt deemed as medically fit to drive then cycling would be the same thing

If he came crashing into you on his bike an dyou found out he had a medical condition which means his decision making/reflexes/balance/eyesight meant he cant drive, you'd be happy with the fact he got on a bike would you?

blind people do ride tandem

likelysuspect · 20/02/2026 12:06

MikeRafone · 20/02/2026 11:40

Where do you think the cars should be 'stored'?

get smaller cars and not take up half the road, car share, electric car taxi shares, private land, driveway shares

Smaller cars certainly agree.

I dont have anyone to car share with. I need to go out this afternoon for a anumber of appointments and errands that need logistical management. The distance in total, I think once its all added up would be around 8 miles or so. I can actually walk that distance, no bother (with loo stops obviously) but the time it would take me makes it not possible for the errands and appointments I have, I dont have the luxury to spend all day walking around

Not to mention the quality of the walk. If I walk to the end of my road in one direction, I get to an A road, fast, on a hill with pavement only on one side. I have to walk along that pavement until that petres out to cross over where the pavement on the other side then starts. There is no safe place to cross, by then the road is on a bend and I cant see traffic and they cant see me

Lets say I walk in the other direction to avoid the A road and take the longer route into town, I end up on a road which again only has pavement on one side which switches again back and forth, but this time the pavement is incredibly narrow, severely cambered and muddy, slushy with detritus, dangerous to walk on.

Taxi - wil cost me a huge amount of money for these trips today, not to mention the waiting time and cant guarantee they'll get me there on time. last time we booked a cab to get to the station, we missed the train. Taxi was 40 mins late, we had booked in very good time for a 5 min journey. Train runs once an hour. That was fun

I'll be taking my own car, on my own today.

FortyDegreeDay · 20/02/2026 12:07

This is a huge problem where I live - there seem to be an obsession in the UK with excessive car ownership and use.

Myself and my partner share one car which we use in a very limited capacity to take the dog to the vets, further afield walks, food shopping and visiting family who are 10+ miles away, we otherwise try to walk or use public transport as we live a 15 minute walk from our local station which is a 7 minute journey from Birmingham city centre.

Meanwhile my neighbours who have multi-generational living (grandparents, parents and children) have FOUR cars all parked on the road as we don’t have driveways. My neighbours on the other side are an elderly couple with a son, only one of them can drive and they have THREE cars all parked on the road - two of the cars are never even used. We have also had a new couple move in a couple of doors down who also have three cars including a people carrier despite not having any kids. They have a drive for two cars but only park the smallest car on the drive. It’s absolute madness.

FunMustard · 20/02/2026 12:07

My ten pence worth:

  • I think NB homes should only be planned if there is adequate parking - and that means space for a car per double bedroom. We all know kids are living at home well into adulthood now, so that's not unreasonable.
  • that form of parking could be a car park at the end of the street - the problem would be making people use it! (Maybe double yellows everywhere and free permits for the car park?)
  • heavy investment in public transport. I have two choices for which office I work out of, one of them accessible only by car, and one door to door trains - but it costs me £20+ for a singular day. So I drive. It takes me sometimes over 90 minutes to do a 30 mile mostly motorway journey because of the sheer weight of traffic. I'd happily go to the other office if it wasn't costing me twice what the fuel for the car is. PS - I am one person in my car, as are most drivers around me on the motorway
  • heavier fines for poor driving. I think it's Germany (?) that fines on a % of income, not a fixed penalty? So let's do that. Not really related to parking but an irritant nonetheless

But I think unfortunately, this is a mindset thing that you've identified and that won't be changed easily. The British are weirdly territorial as you say - I am a driving Brit but I'd happily park anywhere nearish to my house, and had to when I lived in a tight terraced home.

Bjorkdidit · 20/02/2026 12:11

beAsensible1 · 20/02/2026 11:53

yes but a lot of people underestimate the cost of the car vs commute.

they never add in the costs of repairs, insurance etc.

the costs isn't just the petrol. its all of it!

Of course people factor in all the costs. But the reality is that you have to pay most of the costs whether you use your car or not.

So purchase cost, tax, insurance, servicing, MOT, breakdown cover. Only petrol and to a lesser degree repairs are variable and make up a minority of the cost of running a car.

So once you've got it, it's relatively cheap to run so you might as well use it. And a lot of the time it's also a big time saver and life enhancement compared with public transport.

xanthomelana · 20/02/2026 12:12

Cars generate around £9 billion a year revenue from car tax. No one is going to start putting limits on how many vehicles one household can own and lose that money.

Parisian14 · 20/02/2026 12:13

TorturedParentsDepartment · 20/02/2026 10:40

And as a community healthcare professional - this is an absolute nightmare for us. I've just moved work patches - from a council where we were able to register our car numbers to be able to park on these residents streets for an hour to do our community visits.... to one where the Council offer the same thing - for £300 a year which I just do not have spare. I spend most of my working days now driving around trying to find somewhere I can park, or dodging traffic wardens.

Think that's something that could benefit from Govt legislation to even the inequalities out on because the impact on my ability to do my job is huge. I would cope with paying say £100, or a tenner a month or something - but £300 is huge and we're being used as a cash cow.

I think your employer should pay for the parking. It is essential to do your job.

likelysuspect · 20/02/2026 12:13

xanthomelana · 20/02/2026 12:12

Cars generate around £9 billion a year revenue from car tax. No one is going to start putting limits on how many vehicles one household can own and lose that money.

We'll have to start people smoking again

JayJayj · 20/02/2026 12:14

Where my mum lives, the house over the road has drive for 2 cars. They have 5 cars/vans in the house. The do not use the drive and don’t even park outside their house. They park outside others.

echt · 20/02/2026 12:15

@JacquesHarlow YABU for using “gaslighting” in an entirely meaningless way in the very first sentence of your OP.

icouldholditwithacobweb · 20/02/2026 12:16

God yes - I firmly believe that roads are for driving on, not clogging up with parked cars. If you have an off-road space, you don't get a free permit for on-street parking at all. If you choose to live in a house with on-street parking only, you get one free parking permit per house and then you can flipping well pay for additional parking permits - if people insist on clogging the roads up with multiple cars sitting alongside the pavement, they can at least atone for the inconvenience to everyone else by contributing to council costs that could be used for stuff like road repairs and maintenance, or even better, public transport facilities.

It also should be a legal requirement for all new build housing to come with at least 2 off-road spaces per car, whether driveways or dedicated resident car parking.

I know it's not that simple but I wish it were - in my village, driving through is a nightmare because there are so many cars parked everywhere alongside the roads including overnight on double yellows. I purposely chose a house with off road parking so I wouldn't be contributing to that issue.

Ninerainbows · 20/02/2026 12:18

MikeRafone · 20/02/2026 11:43

and Sts idle taking up space doing nothing for 80% of the time

Space on my driveway which holds 2 cars? Oh no, someone call the police.

It drives about 400 miles a month when my husband does a fortnightly commute. We have another car which I use daily. Neither of them are parked on the street.

Sofado · 20/02/2026 12:21

It is restricted exactly as you describe where I live. Maximum two cars per house. And some flats aren’t allowed a car at all. It’s all on-street parking where I live and you have to buy a resident’s parking permit - several hundred - so there’s no getting around it. There’s only a very limited number of streets you are allowed to park in with that permit- about six.

moto748e · 20/02/2026 12:22

I voted YABU before I'd even finished reading the OP! 😀I was losing the will to live!

JacquesHarlow · 20/02/2026 12:22

echt · 20/02/2026 12:15

@JacquesHarlow YABU for using “gaslighting” in an entirely meaningless way in the very first sentence of your OP.

It's not meaningless when I've already had people saying on this thread on the FIRST page

" I don’t think people are parking 3 or 4 cars on residential streets really, unless an HMO."

That's classic Mumsnet style gaslighting: " Denying events happened to accuse victims of being "too sensitive"

You get this all the time on these kind of threads:

"This can't ever have happened, I've never seen it, you're too invested OP".

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JacquesHarlow · 20/02/2026 12:22

moto748e · 20/02/2026 12:22

I voted YABU before I'd even finished reading the OP! 😀I was losing the will to live!

Thanks very much @moto748e for identifying your lack of attention span for us all.

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Avantiagain · 20/02/2026 12:28

My son needs 3:1 full timecare and both when he lived at home and now that he lives in supported living, there have been complaints from neighbours about the support workers parking on the street. They have to park somewhere.

NewZebra · 20/02/2026 12:28

MidnightPatrol · 20/02/2026 10:34

I don’t think people are parking 3 or 4 cars on residential streets really, unless an HMO.

We are only allowed two permits for our household (albeit only have one car).

Where I live nearly all housing stock is Victorian - so built without cars in mind. No drives.

They absolutely are.

My entire street is a nightmare, but just my one side neighbour as a prime example -
garage - doesn’t use, converted into a gym.
2 car driveway:

1 large work pick-up truck
3 adult daughters who each have a car.
1 work transit van
(plus visitors, boyfriends/partners staying over)
that’s at least 5 vehicles every night.

Harrietsaunt · 20/02/2026 12:30

To be fair, the increase in overall population is due to the ageing demographic who are less and less likely to be driving.

This situation will just resolve itself over time as fewer and fewer babies are born and grow up to be car owners.

Kago2790 · 20/02/2026 12:34

icouldholditwithacobweb · 20/02/2026 12:16

God yes - I firmly believe that roads are for driving on, not clogging up with parked cars. If you have an off-road space, you don't get a free permit for on-street parking at all. If you choose to live in a house with on-street parking only, you get one free parking permit per house and then you can flipping well pay for additional parking permits - if people insist on clogging the roads up with multiple cars sitting alongside the pavement, they can at least atone for the inconvenience to everyone else by contributing to council costs that could be used for stuff like road repairs and maintenance, or even better, public transport facilities.

It also should be a legal requirement for all new build housing to come with at least 2 off-road spaces per car, whether driveways or dedicated resident car parking.

I know it's not that simple but I wish it were - in my village, driving through is a nightmare because there are so many cars parked everywhere alongside the roads including overnight on double yellows. I purposely chose a house with off road parking so I wouldn't be contributing to that issue.

Agree, except for the point about new build houses. City centre flats etc generally have only parking for a small percentage of the flats which is reasonable given most places are walkable. Similar for places walking distance to good public transport links. Maybe those places could also charge for parking permits too if someone bought a house in an area well served with public transport but still wanted to park a car in the street.