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Our car storage strategy in the UK is a joke. AIBU?

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JacquesHarlow · 20/02/2026 10:21

Note: I'll put the disclaimers at the end of the thread to try and mitigate against the usual "never seen this before OP, you sound overly invested" gaslighters.

AIBU to think that for a small island with a rapidly growing population, our approach to car storage and parking is ... well, a joke?

And that we need to start restricting street parking somehow to stop the households who have three or four cars on the street, making life a misery for others and for visitors?

Hear me out please for a minute.

I admit I have mainly lived in suburbs or zone of major cities. And today, I have a driveway that can park 5 or 6 cars.

However in the nine places I've lived, and the many places I've visited, you see the same things:

  • It doesn't matter if it's a street of semi-detached 4 beds, or a row of Victorian terraces, or a new build estate: you find houses not using driveways, parking cars nose to nose, often on kerbs.
  • Even if a house has a driveway, the British driver's strange attitude to owning the street in front of their house, means they'd rather park on the road instead of the driveway. Meaning more congestion on the kerbside, fewer places for visitors etc.
  • And let's face it, many can't even reverse onto the driveway or pilot their car with enough skill to use it
  • Away from driveways, I have visited streets with HMOs where friends are tearing their hair out, people with 7 cars to one house. Imagine what happens to street parking then..
  • Or it doesn't even need to be an HMO. Billy big balls can buy vintage pick up trucks and line them up on the street nose to nose and take all available parking. As long as you're within the permit structure, or if no CPZ, then all the cars are taxed and MOT'd? Then you're fine to have as many cars as you want on the street
  • Finally, people who have three or four cars, tend to have the "advantage" in situations like this. They usually have one or two cars "in place", so if parking is tight, they can (and do) "shuffle things" around to ensure they keep their road positions.

So, AIBU to suggest another way? Can we limit the number of cars owned to two a household on a street, and with a designated storage place needing to be named for anything over 2 cars? Should all suburban streets have some form of visitor permits so that people aren't parking three streets away because big Billy has to be able to see his pickups from his window at all times? Can we have proper enforcement from councils to ensure wheelchair users, buggies, young people can actually traverse our streets without having to brush past metal which has taken up part of the kerb?

We're a small island with a lot of history. We weren't designed to have two rows of cars parked down either side of suburban and urban roads, with delivery drivers racing towards nervous nellies who then refuse to reverse.

We are however horribly in denial about parking. Councils are addicted to the revenue, or ignore the problems if they do exist, knowing that there's little or no alternative.

All I see on threads like these in the past are people saying

  • "My eldest daughter uses her car for work, I use mine, so does my DH, and we have something fun for the weekends. I have every right to my four cars on the street. YABU"
  • "You're advocating for 15 minute cities, you will own nothing and be happy, you're a communist, YABU"

Why are we so addicted to car use to the point where anything now goes?

AIBU to ask for a more forward thinking solution to car ownership, where people aren't owning five cars on one small suburban street, without a driveway? Surely car ownership is far too cheap if that's an option for any regular Joe.

What do you think...AIBU?

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JohnofWessex · 23/02/2026 22:04

Ereerenownow · 23/02/2026 20:14

Hi thank you, myself and immediate neighbours are looking into this. As im typing, this particular bloke has 4 large work vehicles ( 3 with trailers) a jeep and 2 cars parked down the length of the entrance road. No one else who lives nearby can park now. He lives a few streets away and he's been overheard saying that he doesn't want to clutter up his own area with his vehicles which is why he dumps them near us, causing people here loads of stress. As stated previously though, he doesn't give a shit. He's a breed of bloke who is massively pumped up with muscles, blasts the worst, chavvy dance music when he parks up near us and shouts down his phone at the top of his voice at all hours when he's driving off or parking up, pretty intimidating really. . With his parking and noise, he's making life pretty miserable for quite a few people here.

I would start with a complaint to planning as he's running a business from home

suburburban · 23/02/2026 22:10

JohnofWessex · 23/02/2026 20:52

My view is that if you have a vehicle over a certain size - van/motorhome/large SUV etc then you should be required to either park it off road overnight or have a parking permit for it.

Totally agree

livingthenotebook · 24/02/2026 07:23

Sofado · 23/02/2026 21:18

Yes, of course you tell them that, or more precisely the council should tell them, if it gets it’s act together. Only 2/3 cars per household should be a national rule, and compulsory residents permits with a limit per household. I have two adult children living with DH and me, and none of us have a car.

Its not practical to not have a car! 2 of my adult children work 20+ miles away in the middle of nowhere and work shifts, i work and care for elderly parents, DH needs his for work, he does a lot of miles, DD is a mobile hairdresser and other DD is a mobile nail tech.

We park 1 car on the road and can get the others on the drive - there is always someone not home due to the shift patterns we all work.

Ereerenownow · 24/02/2026 07:37

DdraigGoch · 23/02/2026 20:29

It would be absolutely dreadful if something were to happen to his cars, parked so far from any CCTV system he may have...

Unfortunately there's loads of cctv cameras in our area, one of the reasons he parks here.

Ereerenownow · 24/02/2026 07:39

JohnofWessex · 23/02/2026 22:04

I would start with a complaint to planning as he's running a business from home

Can we do that? His (very aggressive) argument is, as long as his vehicles are taxed, tested and insured, there's bugger all anyone can do about them.

Flamingojune · 24/02/2026 08:05

livingthenotebook · 24/02/2026 07:23

Its not practical to not have a car! 2 of my adult children work 20+ miles away in the middle of nowhere and work shifts, i work and care for elderly parents, DH needs his for work, he does a lot of miles, DD is a mobile hairdresser and other DD is a mobile nail tech.

We park 1 car on the road and can get the others on the drive - there is always someone not home due to the shift patterns we all work.

Edited

You are talking about your own individual circumstances, but there is a bigger picture here

firstofallimadelight · 24/02/2026 08:05

Well if there was a limit to two cars per household then there would need to be a massive improvement in public transport and housing would need to be cheaper so young adults can afford to move out (or increased pay)
We have a four bed house with a drive that can hold 3 cars and a small drive up area at the front of the
house (no pavements so a car can fit half on our land half on the road)
I have a car - I work part time 30 min away in a small village that would be impossible to get to via public transport. I also have to drive our disabled child to school as he can not access public transport alone and it’s too far to walk. Plus I need the car for his therapies and to attend appropriate activities.
Dh has a car - his commute is 3 hours per day, if he went by train it would take 5 hours per day and cost more so not feasible.
Dd1 has a car - she uses her car for work ands its a condition of her job.
dd2 has a car - she also uses her car for work (again within her role not commuting)
Luckily we can all park on our property but if we have visitors it’s tricky as most houses on our street have less parking and 2-3 cars.

Tableforjoan · 24/02/2026 08:12

Permits for all streets with some visitor parking. Maximum of 3 on road permits per house.
No commercial vehicles stored on roads.
No campervans / motor homes stored on roads.

Visitor parking via free permit but limited for length of stay/self policing as well with residents able to take photos and submit to their local council if the spots are abused.

If you can fit 20 cars on your driveway or a pick up truck or whatever then cool. Put on the public road have limits.

Non 24/7 supermarkets could rent out their parking spaces over night on yearly permits to those who require more parking. As could other businesses with empty spaces.

JanBlues2026 · 24/02/2026 08:12

I think every house should be allocated one parking space in front of their house if there is room, I think it’s important to be able to unload shopping or get small children and babies in and out the car and for people whose mobility isn’t that great.

Flamingojune · 24/02/2026 08:14

JanBlues2026 · 24/02/2026 08:12

I think every house should be allocated one parking space in front of their house if there is room, I think it’s important to be able to unload shopping or get small children and babies in and out the car and for people whose mobility isn’t that great.

Its also important to have fewer cars on the road for better quality of life for more people

livingthenotebook · 24/02/2026 08:15

Flamingojune · 24/02/2026 08:05

You are talking about your own individual circumstances, but there is a bigger picture here

I'm explaining my situation because i've been told by a PP that I am the problem

Elbowpatch · 24/02/2026 09:33

Ereerenownow · 24/02/2026 07:39

Can we do that? His (very aggressive) argument is, as long as his vehicles are taxed, tested and insured, there's bugger all anyone can do about them.

He could possibly be done for obstructing the public highway. It would depend on the exact circumstances.

SerendipityJane · 24/02/2026 09:44

Reducing area for car parking is the construction equivalent of adding water to meat and vegetables to get more money for less.

It also sits at the nexus of the institutional hypocrisy around the environment which demonstrates that it's all a crock of shit. I'm guessing we've all worked that out.

Ereerenownow · 24/02/2026 10:58

Elbowpatch · 24/02/2026 09:33

He could possibly be done for obstructing the public highway. It would depend on the exact circumstances.

Thanks, he's blocked the entrance to one estate several times preventing the bin wagon and delivery vehicles from being able to get in. He also spills grit, mud and other shit all over the road, pathway grass verges etc..like I said, he gives zero shits!

Ereerenownow · 24/02/2026 11:00

Ereerenownow · 24/02/2026 10:58

Thanks, he's blocked the entrance to one estate several times preventing the bin wagon and delivery vehicles from being able to get in. He also spills grit, mud and other shit all over the road, pathway grass verges etc..like I said, he gives zero shits!

Our estate, sorry!

Elbowpatch · 24/02/2026 11:13

Ereerenownow · 24/02/2026 10:58

Thanks, he's blocked the entrance to one estate several times preventing the bin wagon and delivery vehicles from being able to get in. He also spills grit, mud and other shit all over the road, pathway grass verges etc..like I said, he gives zero shits!

I had something similar years ago. Luckily, I had a friend who was a traffic policeman and he paid a visit. The matter resolved itself.

Badbadbunny · 24/02/2026 11:31

Flamingojune · 24/02/2026 08:05

You are talking about your own individual circumstances, but there is a bigger picture here

The "bigger picture" is that lots of people have very valid reasons for needing a car. Not everyone lives near good public transport, not everyone works hours conducive to using public transport, some jobs require transport between customers/clients, some people have to carry around bulky/heavy equipment.

Two of my previous jobs had car ownership as a condition of employment as they involved lots of travel to visit clients' premises, many of which were nowhere near adequate public transport, i.e. industrial estates, farms, etc., or would have taken a ridiculous amount of time to get to by public transport, such as clients a hundred or two hundred miles away - by the time I'd get there, it'd be time to come back again whereas with a car I could do a full days' work.

Badbadbunny · 24/02/2026 11:33

Flamingojune · 24/02/2026 08:14

Its also important to have fewer cars on the road for better quality of life for more people

Then we need a far improved public transport system for a start, more buses/trains, cheaper fares, more routes, earlier starts/later finishes, greatly improved evening/Sunday services, etc.

Ereerenownow · 24/02/2026 11:41

Elbowpatch · 24/02/2026 11:13

I had something similar years ago. Luckily, I had a friend who was a traffic policeman and he paid a visit. The matter resolved itself.

I wish we had someone who took this issue seriously enough to take action against this man. So far, no one wants to listen to us and I do sometimes fear that this might escalate when an angry neighbour who hasn't been able to get parked for weeks, boils over.

suburburban · 24/02/2026 11:48

It is an absolute cheek of the man and I thought there were restrictions in parking huge vehicles in residential areas in some constituencies

is it worth speaking to council?

is it a new estate and do you pay any service charges

Ereerenownow · 24/02/2026 11:58

suburburban · 24/02/2026 11:48

It is an absolute cheek of the man and I thought there were restrictions in parking huge vehicles in residential areas in some constituencies

is it worth speaking to council?

is it a new estate and do you pay any service charges

Hi thanks for this. I don't believe our local council imposes any restrictions on these sorts of vehicles. I think he eyed this area up when he bought his house, thinking he will take over all the parking spaces so he didn't have to pay more for a house with a drive or garage. I feel sorry for all the older people who live nearby, quite often, the way he parks, blocks the entire footpath to the local shop meaning people have to walk on the road to get there. I know a few pensioners who struggle to get on and off the path to walk round his vans because they have walking sticks or other aides. When one elderly gentleman asked him to move his van, the horrible chav got right in this poor man's face and challenged to knock him out!!! His sons are exactly the same.

suburburban · 24/02/2026 12:01

Ereerenownow · 24/02/2026 11:58

Hi thanks for this. I don't believe our local council imposes any restrictions on these sorts of vehicles. I think he eyed this area up when he bought his house, thinking he will take over all the parking spaces so he didn't have to pay more for a house with a drive or garage. I feel sorry for all the older people who live nearby, quite often, the way he parks, blocks the entire footpath to the local shop meaning people have to walk on the road to get there. I know a few pensioners who struggle to get on and off the path to walk round his vans because they have walking sticks or other aides. When one elderly gentleman asked him to move his van, the horrible chav got right in this poor man's face and challenged to knock him out!!! His sons are exactly the same.

Hmm if he is blocking footpaths then isn’t he parking illegally? Could people take photos

he sounds awful though. Hopefully he will reap what he sows at some point

Ereerenownow · 24/02/2026 12:08

suburburban · 24/02/2026 12:01

Hmm if he is blocking footpaths then isn’t he parking illegally? Could people take photos

he sounds awful though. Hopefully he will reap what he sows at some point

He probably is parking illegally but parking fully on pavements and grass verges seems to be common round our way and no matter how many times people are reported, nothing seems to happen. Some drivers seem to think because they pay road tax they can park where they want. I've read that local councils this year will be given powers to stop pavement parking but no sure how this will work in reality.

JohnofWessex · 24/02/2026 18:57

Ereerenownow · 24/02/2026 11:41

I wish we had someone who took this issue seriously enough to take action against this man. So far, no one wants to listen to us and I do sometimes fear that this might escalate when an angry neighbour who hasn't been able to get parked for weeks, boils over.

  1. Make a case, details, pictures etc about all the issues relating to this man
  2. Raise it with Planning, Highways and the Police
  3. AT the same time!!
  4. Involve your Councillor and MP
Ereerenownow · 24/02/2026 20:08

JohnofWessex · 24/02/2026 18:57

  1. Make a case, details, pictures etc about all the issues relating to this man
  2. Raise it with Planning, Highways and the Police
  3. AT the same time!!
  4. Involve your Councillor and MP

Thank you, good suggestions