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Our car storage strategy in the UK is a joke. AIBU?

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JacquesHarlow · 20/02/2026 10:21

Note: I'll put the disclaimers at the end of the thread to try and mitigate against the usual "never seen this before OP, you sound overly invested" gaslighters.

AIBU to think that for a small island with a rapidly growing population, our approach to car storage and parking is ... well, a joke?

And that we need to start restricting street parking somehow to stop the households who have three or four cars on the street, making life a misery for others and for visitors?

Hear me out please for a minute.

I admit I have mainly lived in suburbs or zone of major cities. And today, I have a driveway that can park 5 or 6 cars.

However in the nine places I've lived, and the many places I've visited, you see the same things:

  • It doesn't matter if it's a street of semi-detached 4 beds, or a row of Victorian terraces, or a new build estate: you find houses not using driveways, parking cars nose to nose, often on kerbs.
  • Even if a house has a driveway, the British driver's strange attitude to owning the street in front of their house, means they'd rather park on the road instead of the driveway. Meaning more congestion on the kerbside, fewer places for visitors etc.
  • And let's face it, many can't even reverse onto the driveway or pilot their car with enough skill to use it
  • Away from driveways, I have visited streets with HMOs where friends are tearing their hair out, people with 7 cars to one house. Imagine what happens to street parking then..
  • Or it doesn't even need to be an HMO. Billy big balls can buy vintage pick up trucks and line them up on the street nose to nose and take all available parking. As long as you're within the permit structure, or if no CPZ, then all the cars are taxed and MOT'd? Then you're fine to have as many cars as you want on the street
  • Finally, people who have three or four cars, tend to have the "advantage" in situations like this. They usually have one or two cars "in place", so if parking is tight, they can (and do) "shuffle things" around to ensure they keep their road positions.

So, AIBU to suggest another way? Can we limit the number of cars owned to two a household on a street, and with a designated storage place needing to be named for anything over 2 cars? Should all suburban streets have some form of visitor permits so that people aren't parking three streets away because big Billy has to be able to see his pickups from his window at all times? Can we have proper enforcement from councils to ensure wheelchair users, buggies, young people can actually traverse our streets without having to brush past metal which has taken up part of the kerb?

We're a small island with a lot of history. We weren't designed to have two rows of cars parked down either side of suburban and urban roads, with delivery drivers racing towards nervous nellies who then refuse to reverse.

We are however horribly in denial about parking. Councils are addicted to the revenue, or ignore the problems if they do exist, knowing that there's little or no alternative.

All I see on threads like these in the past are people saying

  • "My eldest daughter uses her car for work, I use mine, so does my DH, and we have something fun for the weekends. I have every right to my four cars on the street. YABU"
  • "You're advocating for 15 minute cities, you will own nothing and be happy, you're a communist, YABU"

Why are we so addicted to car use to the point where anything now goes?

AIBU to ask for a more forward thinking solution to car ownership, where people aren't owning five cars on one small suburban street, without a driveway? Surely car ownership is far too cheap if that's an option for any regular Joe.

What do you think...AIBU?

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Ninerainbows · 20/02/2026 11:40

likelysuspect · 20/02/2026 11:31

I think you need to show your numbers!!!

I bought my car 8 years ago for 5k.

Im not getting rid of my car and when that one's done I'll get a replacement.

I raised an eyebrow at this too. Maybe if you are leasing, sure, but our £5k Mini costs £20 a year in tax, £200 a year in insurance, about £350 for a service/MOT and about £40 a month on Diesel. £87.50 a month. Some people pay more than that for Sky TV or 2 gym memberships.

YouAreEntitledToMyOpinion · 20/02/2026 11:40

I'm lucky and live out in the shires where it's not a massive problem but can imagine it's a PITA in cities. Not sure what the answer is OP, but is this just a UK issue? Have you experience of a country that has a good car storage strategy that you would like us to copy?

MikeRafone · 20/02/2026 11:40

Where do you think the cars should be 'stored'?

get smaller cars and not take up half the road, car share, electric car taxi shares, private land, driveway shares

Manxexile · 20/02/2026 11:41

GingerBeverage · 20/02/2026 10:38

There’s a conversion maisonette near us that uses ROAD CONES (they have 6 of them in the front garden) to reserve the 2 spaces in front of their place.

They have 3 cars so the third at least they do park where there is space but it does my head in how VVIP they must think they are.

Plus they block an e-charging post.

"... Plus they block an e-charging post."

Complain to the council's parking department. They deserve a PCN

MikeRafone · 20/02/2026 11:41

YouAreEntitledToMyOpinion · 20/02/2026 11:40

I'm lucky and live out in the shires where it's not a massive problem but can imagine it's a PITA in cities. Not sure what the answer is OP, but is this just a UK issue? Have you experience of a country that has a good car storage strategy that you would like us to copy?

Japan

GingerBeverage · 20/02/2026 11:43

Manxexile · 20/02/2026 11:41

"... Plus they block an e-charging post."

Complain to the council's parking department. They deserve a PCN

Ha, they say to just move the cones and there’s nothing they can do.

CloakedInGucci · 20/02/2026 11:43

MikeRafone · 20/02/2026 11:37

and electric bike can come with 2 spaces at the back for others to ride on, or you can get an electric cargo bike - your husband wouldn't be able to fit on the bike. If he can ride a bike then could he get his own?

Not sure - what are the laws around electric bikes? He’s not allowed a driving licence for medical reasons so probably shouldn’t ride an electric bike even if legal.

But even so, the idea that I could electric bike everywhere and just rent a car for long journeys seems a bit mad. We go out as a family most weekends to local national trust places, walks etc. it’s the main use of our car. I’m not putting two children on the back of a bike for a 45 min ride down some country lanes.
We do have just one small car though. So I’m not feeling too guilty about it.

MikeRafone · 20/02/2026 11:43

Ninerainbows · 20/02/2026 11:40

I raised an eyebrow at this too. Maybe if you are leasing, sure, but our £5k Mini costs £20 a year in tax, £200 a year in insurance, about £350 for a service/MOT and about £40 a month on Diesel. £87.50 a month. Some people pay more than that for Sky TV or 2 gym memberships.

and Sts idle taking up space doing nothing for 80% of the time

Kookykoala · 20/02/2026 11:43

MikeRafone · 20/02/2026 11:40

Where do you think the cars should be 'stored'?

get smaller cars and not take up half the road, car share, electric car taxi shares, private land, driveway shares

Car share - with who? This isn’t always practical i work 15 miles in the opposite direction to my husband. Our start and finish times are also different.

Taxi share- again - this is making an assumption your in an area with taxis that are a) affordable and b) someone to share with

Driveway shares - since the problem is around having more cars than spaces its unlikely to be a viable option in most instances

MojoMoon · 20/02/2026 11:44

Cars are also enormous now.

Most garages built before 2000 don't accommodate even "normal" cars any more.

The road and pavement are public spaces. You should be required to pay the market rate for using that space - it's not yours and you have no right to it for free or at a low cost.

Your council tax does not entitle you to private use of a public space otherwise I should just be able to claim a chunk of the local park as my private garden or put a storage container in my road

CloakedInGucci · 20/02/2026 11:45

GingerBeverage · 20/02/2026 11:43

Ha, they say to just move the cones and there’s nothing they can do.

I would move the cones. You can’t just leave what could be construed as litter on a public road. I’d be making it safer and clearing up the environment by chucking it in a tip.

SpringsOnTheWay · 20/02/2026 11:45

The problem with any single policy is not all towns are equal.
some have cycle lanes, decent bus routes that go to multiple places. Late night bus service and a reliable one.
some have schools, hospitals and doctors locally

others have none of that and your left with little choice but car use.

KimberleyClark · 20/02/2026 11:45

Winewolfhywls · 20/02/2026 10:35

In the past people kept cars inside garages too, making it easier to store two cars. Many people have now converted garages into rooms, gyms, or downstairs bathrooms.

In our street there are loads of people who just don't park on their empty drives, it's infuriating

Our house is a 1930s semi. The garage, added in the 50s, is at the end of a very narrow drive (cars were a lot smaller then). It’s been a lot more use as a home office than it ever was as a garage.

MojoMoon · 20/02/2026 11:47

If people were forced to pay the market rate for using private space then the market can deliver a solution which would be a compact two or three storey car park in every neighbourhood where you would rent a long term space or pay for short term visitor parking.

beAsensible1 · 20/02/2026 11:48

i wouldn't limit the ownership but you'd only be allowed one parking permit per household.

lots of HMOs won't have many cars. its usually families or those with adult children. Lots of new build estates offer reduced parking and are told to keep numbers down to reduce the number of cars in the area. but unless councils have n actual strategy by not issue permits it defeats the point

In certain boroughs, some newbuilds are not offered any parking in the borough at all. they provide parking for the accessible flats and thats it.

MikeRafone · 20/02/2026 11:49

Kookykoala

do you have a driveway?

Kookykoala · 20/02/2026 11:50

@MikeRafone yes, which two cars are parked on, my childs has to park elsewhere on the street.

MikeRafone · 20/02/2026 11:52

Not sure - what are the laws around electric bikes? He’s not allowed a driving licence for medical reasons so probably shouldn’t ride an electric bike even if legal

you don't need a licence to ride an electric bike

MikeRafone · 20/02/2026 11:52

Kookykoala · 20/02/2026 11:50

@MikeRafone yes, which two cars are parked on, my childs has to park elsewhere on the street.

so its not a you problem

its a problem for your child, don't worry about it

SusanChurchouse · 20/02/2026 11:52

Badbadbunny · 20/02/2026 10:52

Another big problems is works vans. Most now seem to take vans home with them, so in addition to their own car, their spouse's car, their adult children's cars, there's also their work van in the evenings and weekends. In the past, works vans were more likely to be stored in works yards/compounds but now organisations seem to want to reduce the size of their yards so force their workers to take their vehicles home to park instead of buying larger business premises. In some streets near us, there are several transit vans or pick up trucks taking up larger spaces than a car would take, often taking up the space where two cars could have parked in front of semi detached houses etc.

We have this problem in our estate. Works vans using up a lot of the parking bays. And weirdly, once people park in a spot they then get weirdly territorial about it as if it belongs to them. They’re getting bigger too. Used to be mostly transits, now a massive commercial pick up which overhangs a space by a metre and a half has started parking behind my house in a space for visitors. I feel it’s probably against the covenant of the estate but would feel like a bit of an arse for complaining.

A few of my neighbours were having a convo the other day about second cars and how, for all of us, a second car would be useful such a small amount of the time and it would be nice if there was a communal one we could book out when we needed it. I’m not sure it would work in practice though.

15/20 minute cities are great though. There are 5 minutes of pavement between me and a Co-Op and it saves me a lot of car journeys!

Allisnotlost1 · 20/02/2026 11:53

MidnightPatrol · 20/02/2026 11:05

No permits?

Ask your council to enforce, they’ll love the opportunity to make some money from you all.

We don’t have permits here, I’ve never encountered them outside of cities and usually only central city locations at that.

Balloonhearts · 20/02/2026 11:53

I think there are several reasons for the issue.

Cost of housing is out of control. People cannot afford to move out, sometimes until their 30s, meaning more cars per household.

Unemployment. There are literally hundreds of applicants for even entry level jobs meaning people are having to go further afield for work. Add in early starts, late finishes and public transport that is extortionately expensive and notoriously unreliable and you have no real option but to drive.

The building of new housing estates with no/shit parking. I had this issue. HA kept offering me flats with no parking in the middle of nowhere. Not even any street parking within 30 minute walk. No bus stops. I had to point out that thru required me to work to be eligible but how do I get to work from here with no car?

beAsensible1 · 20/02/2026 11:53

TheKittenswithMittens · 20/02/2026 10:52

There are always threads here about cost of living debt etc. Nobody suggests get rid of the car. It must cost at least 300 quid a month to own a car, and that's before you put petrol in it.

yes but a lot of people underestimate the cost of the car vs commute.

they never add in the costs of repairs, insurance etc.

the costs isn't just the petrol. its all of it!

Farageisacupidstunt · 20/02/2026 11:55

You can't half tell which ones are the townies on this thread. For those of us who live rurally or semi-rurally, public transport is at best dire. E-Bikes would be useless for our family as I work 30 miles away from home, my husband who is self-employed and can regularly work in a different place every day and also needs to be able to take tools and plant and my daughter works 20 miles away from home. There are ZERO public transport options for any of us. That said, parking was so bad on our street that we applied for and got residents only parking. Our situation is clearly far from unique. I'm not sure what the answer is, maybe more WFH but when Nefarious Nige gets in, he wants to ban this and given that his motley crew have also pledged to massively reduce public spending, any currently subsidised bus routes are likely to get binned too so improved public transport doesn't appear to be on the horizon any time soon.

Kookykoala · 20/02/2026 11:55

@MikeRafone haha well yes that is true. But an example of the issue isn’t it. We all unfortunately need our cars to get to work, due to our location we have no reliable public transport to facilitate getting rid of a car. So we shall continue to clog the road. As does the remainder of our area.