Despite his villainous behaviour, anyone feel a teeny bit sorry for Andrew?

[busymomtoone]

Before I get totally flamed, I despise his attitude, and the things he appears to have done - particularly the subsequent lying and apparent determination to shield/ hide misdemeanours. However, seeing the photo of his release today looking a broken man after such huge public downfall , plus thinking of him going back to an empty house on his birthday with no family support - even though I initially felt he deserves every indignity and consequence - there’s still a teeny part of me that just can’t help feeling just a little bit sorry for him. If it’s true that he was taken to a brothel at age 11 , whilst it would in no way excuse abusing others , it means he has also been a victim of abuse. Additionally it seems the Queen and his entourage have never ever said no to him in his whole life- so to reach his 7th decade before any consequences hit makes me question how resilient he will be able to be. Obviously main sympathies are always rightly with any victims , but even the most hardened and perpetual criminals often retain family support, he seems to have nobody. ( albeit if his own making ) or am I just being too soft?!

Yes I do slightly, he really did his bit in the RN during the Falklands conflict, he deserves respect for that, but sadly he’s made some very bad choices. I just feel saddened that as part of our RF he didn’t have more decorum.

I doubt he'll be at home by himself on his birthday

Oh come on - he’s hardly innocent being taken advantage of
he kept going and kept going and had no thought for anyone but himself

gross

No, absolutely not. Paedo Scumbag

Course not, theres all his teddies.

Oh gosh…any other person could have down that - it didn’t need him

he is gross

No. ‘He’s in his FAFO era’, as my teens would say.

Yes, I actually do a bit. Not because I don't think he deserves it but he's clearly dim and mentally unwell and I wonder if he's just not clever enough to understand and therefore be fully responsible for what he's done. And it's hard seeing anyone looking so absolutely broken even if they deserve it.

But whatever smidgen of something like pity I feel for him is hugely outweighed by sympathy for his victims and fury.

We know he is - and we can know that

No.

"Misconduct in public office." Yet to be proved, of course, but it seems beyond doubt that he passed over confidential govt info to his rich mate in America. I feel so angry. He's let his country down.

I see a man who has +/- 30 years left with not a clue of what he's done wrong.

Anyone with a smidge of awareness and humility would have dedicated themselves to genuine charity work – after voluntarily giving up all the information he had – the moment they knew the game was up, and if he didn't, the Queen should have left him in no doubt that he had no other option. He didn't, she didn't. He has to live with the consequences now.

Absolutely not. He's reaping what he sowed. Brought it all on himself.

Nope

Is this akin to jimmy Saville did a lot for charity?

So fucking what, shame he didn’t get killed, because many a good man died in that war and he went on to make other living hell!

I’m not normally one to to think things like this, but I think that would be the best thing for the future of the monarchy. He won’t be convicted of anything but the public won’t put up with him being given a gorgeous country house and all expenses.

I think the institution needs to be dissolved now. William and Catherine and all the other Royals (not Charles and Camilla but never mind) will I’m sure be perfectly happy not being ‘Royal’ - They’ll all still be incredibly wealthy, they just won’t have to do dull work any more. Win-win.

This is how I feel.

There is too much pointing at Andrew and other British people. It is distracting from those who have done much worse, been more deeply embroiled. His issue here is not sexual offences, it is betraying his country, something he should have been beyond reproach on. That is far more disturbing to me than his known sleaziness.

We all call him oaedophile etc, but the girl was 17. Yrs it’s below age of consent in America but not in UK. Or are there others we don’t know about?

no logically we cannot know that

This 👆.

I think he is very, very stupid but over - priviledged. And I absolutely agree with this opinion that he is an easy target. But should blame be also based on the fact that he was approved by various UK governments? And whose mother really knows what their kid's friends are like, what their influences are? Do you think anyone who knew would have told the queen?

No. He could have avoided all this by simply not being a sleazy corrupt nonce.

People manage not to be arrested every day. It’s not hard and he’s really not special.

Oh well 🤷‍♀️

I mean, if that actually is true, it's properly traitorous. A born prince doing that to the country whose titles he held. And not even for politics, because he had genuine concerns of conscience over the country's governance or workings. Purely for personal gain.

It's not really the fact that she was 17 - it's that she was forced into it. Trafficked.