Despite his villainous behaviour, anyone feel a teeny bit sorry for Andrew?

[busymomtoone]

Before I get totally flamed, I despise his attitude, and the things he appears to have done - particularly the subsequent lying and apparent determination to shield/ hide misdemeanours. However, seeing the photo of his release today looking a broken man after such huge public downfall , plus thinking of him going back to an empty house on his birthday with no family support - even though I initially felt he deserves every indignity and consequence - there’s still a teeny part of me that just can’t help feeling just a little bit sorry for him. If it’s true that he was taken to a brothel at age 11 , whilst it would in no way excuse abusing others , it means he has also been a victim of abuse. Additionally it seems the Queen and his entourage have never ever said no to him in his whole life- so to reach his 7th decade before any consequences hit makes me question how resilient he will be able to be. Obviously main sympathies are always rightly with any victims , but even the most hardened and perpetual criminals often retain family support, he seems to have nobody. ( albeit if his own making ) or am I just being too soft?!

No

I feel sorry for his victims including his own daughters and grandchildren. We’ll never ever know the whole truth but I do feel Charles should also now step down and allow the new generation to heal their reputation. I genuinely believe Harry has dodged a massive bullet.

Not an ounce

Nope.

That’s not a thing

Why the fuck would anyone feel sorry for him??

seeing the photo of his release today looking a broken man after such huge public downfall , plus thinking of him going back to an empty house on his birthday with no family support

🤣🤣 this statement is hilarious.

He deserves everything coming his way and more as far as I’m concerned. I can’t feel sorry for this excuse of an over privileged pathetic little man. Cretin that he is. Mummy isn’t here to protect him anymore, so he’s facing the consequences of his vile actions.

Don’t worry he’ll go home to his teddies carefully arranged on his bed by the staff.

Absolutely not! Wtf have I just read?! Feel sorry for a man who fiddled around with trafficked women/girls?! Whose mummy bailed him out of shit with millions? Who was so arrogant to believe he could pass information to his best buddy Epstein without reprisal? No! Just no! 😑 ffs...

Honestly, no.

He knew what he was doing was wrong, he thought his status meant that he could do it all anyway with impunity. It's delicious to see him getting whatever justice we can provide him with - he's likely going to get away with the worst of his crimes, so no, I don't feel even remotely sorry for him or any of the other tossers who did the same as he did.

I feel no sympathy for him, he’s a vile person by all accounts.
I do think he’s also a very easy target / useful idiot and is being used as a distraction from the really big, powerful players, ‘they’ know he’ll get massive worldwide publicity and it takes focus off others.

Not sorry for him but I do try to imagine what going through an experience like this must be like. I don't think anyone on the planet can relate to how he feels right now.

Absolutely no.

Did she? Or was she killed for speaking up.

I don’t think for one moment she killed herself she was silenced - I’m always aghast her family think she killed herself
when she’d already said publically if I something happens to me you’ll know I’ve been got at

also Epstein - no one with his big head would ever kill himself / he would have been waiting for a lawyer to get him out- same establishment machine trying to protect the monarchy and other rich powerful men - men like Epstein do not commit suicide

No. What the actual F.

I don't feel sorry for him.

I do think he is terminally thick and spoiled and had/has very little grip on reality. He was a prince and would have been surrounded all his life by girls/women who were happy to have sex with him. To him, that probably seemed normal. So I think that the other Epstein-related sex offenders were probably even more culpable than him at the time, because they would have been more aware that the victims must have been coerced and exploited.

BUT... look at his lying and denials and refusal to take responsibility after the facts became very clear. Look at how his chosen actions made things even worse for the victims. Look at all his other dodgy dealings, his utter lack of empathy or contrition. Look how he has hidden behind his privilege and entitlement. No amount of stupidity and ignorance can excuse him. Fuck him.

That's similar to how I feel. I worry he may be a suicide risk. Not for him but for the repurcusions of him doing that, and for the continued lack of justice his victims have got.

Seeing him returning home like that, with his chickens well and truly coming home to roost, it serves him right thinking he could do anything he liked because of who he was.

Yet he is part of the dysfunction of the royal family. The spare who like Margaret and Harry never found a healthy way to live.

The whole set up is awful. How the RF can happily perpetuate this state of being for their children generation after generation appalls me. As do the supporters of this system who love to see their royals paraded like puppets for their enjoyment.

No, never.

Yes there is research that abusers were often victims of abuse in their own childhood. What fucks me off is this is how it’s always stated and yet it’s a really really tiny percentage of sex crimes that are committed by women. Abused girls find a way to not perpetuate these horrors on future generations, they are actually more likely to enter into relationships where they are further abuse through their adulthood than girls who haven’t been abused.

And no doubt it’s female socialisation that is tugging at your sympathy for this apparently broken man.

the whole of society is rotten how it views women and girls. I understand your point but it just angers me you thought it through enough to post that’s how insidious misogyny is. You have one line “ Obviously, main sympathies are rightly with the victims” but you don’t post about the victims. The horrors women and girls live through are so common place that doesn’t register as significant enough to post about. What can be said we all don’t already know on this? Not worth a post it’s nothing new. But a specific man looking broken and alone for his birthday?

you should be posting angry at the news for such photos to pull at your sympathy not falling for it

personally theres alot lot more to all of this, at least thats my guess.

He is known for being an absolute arse to his staff. He clearly sees other humans as less than. I hope, during this difficult time, he has the chance to reflect on those behaviours.

I’d wager he will just feel persecuted instead though.

I get what you mean because I wonder if I was him how I could go on. Everyone despises him for what he has done. He is ostracised by most of his family. What a miserable existence he's going to have. I know it's brought on by him but what a sad end to a privileged life.

I don't think he does look broken. He looks gobsmaked to me ,shocked...

I wonder what they have got on him...

He is getting more flak than most of the other, less high-profile offenders. But that just means that the other offenders aren't getting ENOUGH flak. Not that he's getting too much.

I think he will kill himself like Epstein apparently did.