So what do we think will happen to Andrew, could he actually go to prison?

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I just don’t believe it could happen. Also I’d like him to go to prison for the sex offences, that seems more important than his sharing confidential information problem.

I wouldn’t believe everything you read.

Lots of things aren't illegal, that doesn't make any of them ok. In fact, those subjects are all about women being sold either with their notional 'consent' (arm behind the back, poverty, feeding the family) or because they've been sold the lie that they need a man to survive.

climbintheback, you are not doing yourself any favours here. Virginia Giuffre was raped and abused and now she is dead. Her children are without their mother. Is that not enough suffering for you?

Most compassionate people can be outraged at what happens to the victims of all grooming gangs, however rich or poor the men running them are.

I cant see Andrew grassing on anyone, the people who he might grass on are the only ones likely to give him any shelter.
Plus his life will be in danger if he starts talking.

Of course they could put him in prison, just segregate him. There are war criminals in prison, extremely dangerous people and extremely vulnerable people. It’s not safe or nice, but it’s doable to treat him the same way anyone else is treated when their profile makes them at risk.

I don’t actually think it will happen, but it could.

It’s all for show. Nothing will happen to Andrew.

It’s a fair point, but his former status is a massive factor, alongside his hubristic and hilarious interview. He’s the highest profile person involved on our side of the Atlantic. I’d hope that he will be the first domino though because you’re right, there are bigger devils to catch.

I think that depends on the crime the person has committed. Some should be thrown to the wolves.

It’s not ok. All the behaviours are repugnant. They aren’t illegal though, and in some cases will have seemed normal.
My son works with someone who has apparently serially imported women to live with him. As each one gets fed up and buggers off, he gets a new one. DS knows no details but has pieced it together from various jokes.

I think he will go to prison and he should, if found guilty. We only know about the alleged misconduct in public office because of papers released in connection with other possible offences, but it's clear from both AMW and Mandelson that this kind of misconduct is rife. The deterrent value of AMW going to prison to others who think they're above the law would make it money well spent.

The post you are replying to was simply answering a point about the legality or otherwise of other things he has done

This comes up time and time again on these threads, like as if anyone thinks he is a responsible, morally upstanding person, no one thinks that, its simply that he hasnt committed any crime with VG or any other woman that we know of

So people going on about how he should be or should have been arrested for this and that with regards to sexual activity are misinformed.

There will be much more to come out over the next few weeks...

crimewatch.co.uk/prince-andrew-accused-of-watching-young-girl-being-tortured/?fbclid=IwdGRjcAQEKkZjbGNrBAQp22V4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHhIusThEB4q6NyP8WHlU-WvlbwK8AmwIbCgf38Qrhi3C0va1Y_Z9wDIT7m69_aem_5uQN2Cy8BqT7kbW75ozPsA

Well I’m sure he hasn’t been arrested just for being a sleazy middle-aged git. They must have something illegal on him.

That legislation is from 2003. The alleged incidents were in 2001.

Can a trafficked woman freely give consent? I think not. If she can’t, it’s rape.

Any ‘normal’ person would, but I’m not sure with him. I think the future of the monarchy relies on him being treated the same way as anyone else, who almost undoubtedly would go to prison.

He probably shouldn’t even get bail if charged TBH as he’s a MASSIVE flight risk and could disappear to the Middle East literally overnight. Any bail should have travel restrictions and his passport seized.

Maybe he’ll sing like a canary to save his own skin and the other offenders in the whole Epstein situation will be prosecuted, imprisoned and victims compensated (acknowledging that no amount of money would be sufficient and not all are still alive, but hopefully you know what I mean).

If he takes his lawyers' advice he'll say No Comment to every question the police ask him.

However he didn't take his PR adviser's advice before the Emily Maitliss interview, so we shall see...

Who would you rather have?.President Blair?
No thanks!!

No, you're right, there isn't any. Two women have come forward the recent one is 26 and the other is VG who wrote a whole book about her issues but at no point does she say she was underage. (Not with Andrew anyway. Her father, family friend and a few others all abused her as a child).

This is exactly why any sort of trial would be very difficult. There is so much misinformation and bias, it would be very difficult to give him a fair trial.

Theres nothing to arrest him for in respect of any of that.

All the emphasis is on Andrew here in the UK.

I watch a lot of American news. Whilst there's some interest in Andrew for sure and they want him to answer questions, the person in the Epstein files that most people are focused on is Trump, who is (illegally) trying to ensure the more damning parts that mention him are not released or completely redacted.

The other person in the last few days that has raised considerable controversy is Noam Chomsky, although he isn't alleged to have actually been involved in any sexual misconduct at all it's more the fact he supported Epstein after his conviction for soliciting minors.

But what Andrew did that none of the other accused have so far done was: 1. Be stupid enough to have a voluntary full frontal photo taken with his arm intimately placed around the waist of a 17 year old girl who clearly was not related to Ghislaine Maxwell in a readily identifiable location in London. 2. Allow that 17 year old to keep the photo due to a hugely exaggerated sense of ego 3. Continue to ingratiate himself with high-risk Epstein merely to help pay his ex-wife's bills 4. with the help of Emily Maitless (god bless her) volunteer to do a car-crash-with-no-survivors interview in which lie after lie was told. Again, due to his massively misplaced ego.

I mean he's a gift to the law, and a gift to the press and a nightmare for anyone who has to defend him. The weakest link. Yes, people will go after him first. He made it easy. All the other names are very powerful and not as stupid, frankly. Sick, twisted, disgusting, possibly worse than Andrew even, but they're not as stupid.

You think his age is relevant? Or you just use ‘ middle aged’ as a Slur?

I would!

She quite obviously just repeated a PP’s words - the person she was replying to.

VG’s claim was that she was “forced to have sex with” him.

He settled on a claim of sexual assault.

Last I checked both rape and sexual assault are illegal. For any age.