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XL Bully on coach

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Butterytoastandtea · 19/02/2026 14:37

My daughter spent the day in a city (about 3.5 hours away) and got the bus back last night. She said she was quite anxious as a couple of men with an xl bully sat behind her and spent the journey rolling spliffs. She said it stank. She wanted to move but was scared to draw any attention to herself. I suppose the drugs were secondary. She was very afraid of the dog. I googled and their policy from 2023 says only guide dogs or in carriers allowed.

Am I being unreasonable to expect to be able to travel on a coach (for 3+) hours without being frightened of other people's large animals? It doesn't seem safe. Do I need to get a grip, does she? I don't know what is normal anymore! I would have picked her up if I knew this was a possibility.

Edited to add she's 17

OP posts:
Butterytoastandtea · 20/02/2026 14:36

poetryandwine · 20/02/2026 13:40

Even if the dog was not a bully, the driver permitted the rule breaking and mental anguish to your DD so the essence of my comment above is valid.

OP, IIRC you haven’t answered the question about whether the dog was muzzled? Which may or may not indicate whether it was a bully. I think they should be banned, but have noticed that they are usually muzzled in public.

Not muzzled, we are in Scotland though so perhaps the law is different. I don't actually know what it is

OP posts:
79Beastie · 20/02/2026 14:39

poetryandwine · 20/02/2026 11:55

OP said clearly in her first message that only guide dogs and dogs in carrier baskets are allowed, by the rules if the coach firm.

It isn’t for you or me or the guys with the bully to argue that.

Yes I know what the op said as I read it. Well the driver let it on so there must be a reason why. As I said you can't exactly hide an XL bully. In fact the whole post doesn't sit right really.

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 20/02/2026 14:54

Op’s dd should t have to amend he behaviour for the rule breakers and the lack of enforcement.
Will posters stop victim blaming

The driver should’ve upheld the rules and said no can’t board

I imagine as often happens that there’s ignoring of the rules by some dog owners and the driver being complicit.

poetryandwine · 20/02/2026 15:01

Butterytoastandtea · 20/02/2026 14:36

Not muzzled, we are in Scotland though so perhaps the law is different. I don't actually know what it is

An unmuzzled XL bully in public in Scotland is a criminal offence.

Per your earlier post OP I have a strong sense of solidarity with my fellow workers, but when you are responsible for the safety of others that comes first.

It seems thar DD is sure that this was an unmuzzled XL bully on a bus where any non-guide dog not in a carrier was not allowed, with a couple of guys in possession of weed. She was afraid to move away from them, afraid to discuss the situation with the driver who should never have allowed it, and is now reluctant to get him into trouble??

Even if she is wrong about the breed, and it is too bad we will never know, the failure of safeguarding by the driver is glaring. If she is right, it could have been life threatening. No, in this instance I do not feel solidarity with him and I think DD needs to learn to put her own safety first, quickly, and to act accordingly.

JH0404 · 20/02/2026 15:10

Totally unacceptable, but the circumstance the dog was encountered in is relevant. I would be afraid of any dog used for status as I would judge the owner for this and have no confidence in their ability or inclination to train and control the dog. However if I encountered an xl bully in a different situation with a competent appearing owner and it was muzzled and compliant with the current laws around the breed I wouldn’t be worried. Unfortunately xl bullies are generally owned by the former.

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