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New Epstein allegation horrifying

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Daygloboo · 18/02/2026 23:20

Just that. Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse. Now horrific allegations about a property on New Mexico.

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Gunsgunsguns · 19/02/2026 12:04

Daygloboo · 19/02/2026 11:44

But how did she find out about it in the first place ? Do you know ?

No idea, it was so insane that I didnt really want to get into the details. I am assuming the internet.

Skyflyinghigh · 19/02/2026 12:07

Bet he’s sweating now!!!

MyDeftDuck · 19/02/2026 12:13

Perhaps, when questioned, he will quote one of the late Queens responses……….”recollections may vary”!

WildJoker · 19/02/2026 12:19

In the Epstein files there is horrendous stuff - very small children/babies being sexually abused and raped - multiple pregnancies by extremely young girls, even cannibalism - the stuff of nightmares - and a person called Sasha Riley tells of the most heinous acts of obscene sexual violence being committed on a ranch/farm - the horror of what appears to have gone on with some of the most powerful people on this planet beggars belief - there is a lot more to come out of this horrific story.

Daygloboo · 19/02/2026 12:20

DrCalLightman · 19/02/2026 11:58

Well at the point you posted, there were no other posts on this thread.

Oh, honestly. It was obvious what was being said. People do have the intelligence to suss these things out for themselves and respond to the post.

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MintDog · 19/02/2026 12:22

Gunsgunsguns · 19/02/2026 00:42

I once had a very intelligent young lady (training to be a lawyer) tell me with dead certainty pizzagate was real. I was like what is that!? Have heard it but never really looked at it. She said it’s an elite ring of powerful people who rape, torture and kill children. I thought she was bonkers. But noted also very strange as not in her character to be a wild conspiracy theorist and she did look deadly serious. But even if true - how could you actually know that.

Maybe she was right!

Ten years I was telling people about it and they were telling me I needed pyschiatric help. Now who's laughing. I'm also intelligent but it's amazing how long even MN has been saying conspiracy theories are all nutters. None of this is a surprise, not one part that's slowly coming to light in the regular media. Us 'nutter's are all nodding and saying, we told you so.

You're clearly all not ready for just how dark this gets.

novalia89 · 19/02/2026 12:32

It should have been finally investigated just because of the abuse, not because of the murder enquiries. This is adding to the thought that it isn't serious just as abuse :(

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 19/02/2026 12:39

HelenaWaiting · 19/02/2026 10:50

Because there are an awful lot of people on this thread just making stuff up.

Such as?

EasternStandard · 19/02/2026 12:50

novalia89 · 19/02/2026 12:32

It should have been finally investigated just because of the abuse, not because of the murder enquiries. This is adding to the thought that it isn't serious just as abuse :(

No it’s not. It’s all horrific.

AnotherHormonalWoman · 19/02/2026 12:54

20 years ago a friend of mine was a social worker with children, and about as far from a conspiracy theorist as they come. She was certain that there were at least two child grooming and SA rings that she had dealt with the victims of; one in Yorkshire (this one came out in the news a few years ago), and one that was huge, and centred around Westminster with some big name politicians and celebrities involved. I am assuming that this and Epstein's lot are one and the same.

I hope the perpetrators burn, every single one of them.

AnotherHormonalWoman · 19/02/2026 12:57

EasternStandard · 19/02/2026 12:50

No it’s not. It’s all horrific.

Yes it is all horrific. The other poster isn't wrong though, I've heard several people things like "what andrew did to underage girls was bad enough but giving away state secrets, that's awful!" .

No love, what's awful is that you're minimising sexual abuse and rape.

NewspaperTaxis · 19/02/2026 13:00

It's rare that a social worker stands up for any kind of state conspiracy, as I found to my cost when talking about alleged euthanasia in nursing homes and hospitals in Surrey, based on what I've witnessed. You get accused of being a fantasist, etc

One Hillingdon social worker I believe compiled a dossier on the serial killer Levi Bellfield - he who killed Milly Dowling. She found links to him and care homes in East Acton if I recall, He seemed to be part of a paedophile ring. This story was aired but it got buried. That lovely head of the Met Cressida Dick had the file on her desk for a year but never looked at it.

It wasn't Surrey Police who nailed Bellfield, it was the Met and even then it was some lone police officer who did it and got no joy or recognition from the force - I think Martin Clunes played him in an ITV drama called Manhunt.

There is some really odd stuff about Bellfield and Surrey Police that doesn't add up at all.

LondonPapa · 19/02/2026 13:22

BashfulClam · 19/02/2026 11:38

There were younger girls involved in the Epstein files. 10-13 year olds being checked for ‘tightness’ children’s teeth being removed to prevent biting down. A 13 year old who remembers her first time being with an Orange politician, Jeffrey Epstein saying that trafficked people are like shrimp ‘cut of the head and keep the body’…I’m not sure how true these allegations are but if they are then its horrific!

Unfortunately, there are younger victims of sexual abuse. Quite a few emails, now deleted by DOJ, reference babies. I saw a couple of uncensored photos of very young children in unspeakable situations. I’d say, based on what I’ve read from the DOJ, a lot of it is true.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 19/02/2026 13:22

the more that comes out the more I think Epstein was bumped off

Bluecrystal2 · 19/02/2026 13:24

MintDog · 19/02/2026 12:22

Ten years I was telling people about it and they were telling me I needed pyschiatric help. Now who's laughing. I'm also intelligent but it's amazing how long even MN has been saying conspiracy theories are all nutters. None of this is a surprise, not one part that's slowly coming to light in the regular media. Us 'nutter's are all nodding and saying, we told you so.

You're clearly all not ready for just how dark this gets.

Fellow tin foil hat wearer here. Got so used to my posts being deleted, and accusations of paranoia; I just posted bland stuff. You were told you needed pysch. help to shut you down.

Glitchymn1 · 19/02/2026 13:26

Ablondiebutagoody · 18/02/2026 23:30

The torture/murder place with bodies buried in the grounds where Andrew used to hang out?

I imagine these places exist everywhere, where snuff films etc get made. I dread to think what goes on.

Hominim · 19/02/2026 13:27

AlecTrevelyan006 · 19/02/2026 13:22

the more that comes out the more I think Epstein was bumped off

He absolutely was, or at least given no way out

walllaw · 19/02/2026 13:34

HelenaWaiting · 19/02/2026 11:05

I'm not going to debate this with you. Pizzagate was a claim made by Trump supporters during the 2016 election campaign that Democrats were running a human trafficking and child abuse ring - from a pizza restaurant - and that Hillary Clinton had taken part in the ritual murder of a child. It has been widely discredited and was never linked to Epstein in any way. If you choose to believe the person who resurrected this story, on the grounds that a trainee lawyer told him it was true, that's on you. If you choose to believe utterly spurious claims of cannibalism - again, on you. I happen to think Epstein's victims deserve a little more respect. But if it excites you, you go ahead and enjoy it.

Yes, what we know is reality is bad enough. No need to go down the rabbit hole of discredited right wing media narratives, which just muddy the water further.

It's imperative right now to try, as best we can, to fact check anything from a secondary source.

Reputable sources of knowledge and information:

Julie K Brown, the Miami Herald journalist whose dogged reporting is largely responsible for getting Epstein back under a microscope after his soft deal in 2008 is an excellent person to follow. Tara Palmieri is another. Both have spent lots of time, both with the victims, and investigating.

Don't believe randoms on social media.

Daygloboo · 19/02/2026 13:34

Daygloboo · 18/02/2026 23:20

Just that. Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse. Now horrific allegations about a property on New Mexico.

Well I hope they arrest other people who have allegedly betrayed our country too. We dont need this in UK right now. Things are bad enough. Ghastly ghastly people ruining our reputation. Thank god some people have integrity though.

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PURPLErainiswhatmadePrincegreat · 19/02/2026 13:36

Muffinmam · 19/02/2026 01:58

Pizzagate was a completely different conspiracy theory.

In Epstein’s emails they used coded language and pizza referred to little girls.

There is also reference in the Epstein files about eating babies. It’s in there. I’m not going to say specifically - but the reference is absolutely horrifying.

It isn’t just trafficking underage teenagers. Epstein was trafficking children and babies. To this day the FBI has done nothing to track down the babies. There is evidence of the births via diaries the girls kept and even sonograms.

is it true E had baby farms with females made to conceive and give him the babies

PURPLErainiswhatmadePrincegreat · 19/02/2026 13:39

Holidayshopping · 18/02/2026 23:25

What allegations?

YABU to post a sensationalist post with no actual content.

ah its you again. The other day you accused me of me being this person. So there it is, we are all different and for your info, such big topic does not need a massive intro, does it

Bluecrystal2 · 19/02/2026 13:42

LondonPapa · 19/02/2026 13:22

Unfortunately, there are younger victims of sexual abuse. Quite a few emails, now deleted by DOJ, reference babies. I saw a couple of uncensored photos of very young children in unspeakable situations. I’d say, based on what I’ve read from the DOJ, a lot of it is true.

Having worked with paedophiles for a short time, it was known that they liked babies before teething. It's so horrible and something that's not talked about.

The devil walks among us often disguised as pillars of the community.

PURPLErainiswhatmadePrincegreat · 19/02/2026 13:43

tangotingo · 19/02/2026 02:35

I’ve been shocked at the lack of outcry in the media over the 16 year old girl whose journal was released in the Epstein files. It has been mentioned that this particular girl had vulnerabilities including autism. She was forced to bear 3 pregnancies for Epstein and had a miscarriage, late-term forced abortion and then a live birth in which she spent 15 minutes with the child who was then taken away and she never knew what happened to them.

Then when they finally released her story in the most recent release of the Epstein files, they didn’t even bother to redact her name properly from an ultrasound photo that was included in the document, meaning the poor girl is no doubt probably being stalked and harassed.

It’s absolutely fucking pathetic how this has been dealt with.

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when their president is involved, makes it harder. But I pray for impeachment and proper dealing with all this

EasternStandard · 19/02/2026 13:47

AnotherHormonalWoman · 19/02/2026 12:57

Yes it is all horrific. The other poster isn't wrong though, I've heard several people things like "what andrew did to underage girls was bad enough but giving away state secrets, that's awful!" .

No love, what's awful is that you're minimising sexual abuse and rape.

That doesn’t relate to the pp who was saying murders shouldn’t be discussed. In fact a few posters have said don’t go there etc

I think do take seriously what a young model was saying in 2009, and I’d ask why you wouldn’t do so (general you).