New Epstein allegation horrifying

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Just that. Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse. Now horrific allegations about a property on New Mexico.

You only have to read some of the emails to think that it’s true as well

I’m inclined to believe it. Have you seen videos of Anneke Lucas and how she was sold by her mother in Belgium into a ritual sadistic abuse ring. I have not watched all her videos as I find it very distressing. But here is one:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H8sTdGdSQ2k&pp=ygUeSW50ZXJ2aWV3IGFidXNlIHBpZXJyZSB0cnVkZWF1

At the time I also recall coming across similar things that had happened in the UK. It’s absolutely awful and there is a major cover up. I also recall the news that a charity run by Hilary Clinton faced a scandal that seems to have dropped. An employee of Clinton’s charity was trying to take children out of I think Hawaii without parental consent, and no good reason. Basically theft of children from poor people. I’m very suspicious of the lot of them.

They employed a gynaecologist and there are ultrasound scan pictures. Victims have stated that they were made to become pregnant, then the babies removed, either through abortion or taken away at birth.

Head of gynecology at Ohio university received quarterly payments from Epstein | The Independent https://share.google/aYUXSBJoxZGjZI6sy

I think another issue is that the Epstein files contain unverified tips and claims. Nobody knows yet if the claims about very young children and babies are true.

I am not dismissing them, the whole thing is horrific and getting worse every day. But not all of the information will be factual.

What would obviously help is if A M-W, Ghislaine Maxwell and others known to have been part of it all actually testified.

Yes i said in another post...do you remember all that Dolohin Square rumour stuff and how celebrities got done for stuff but no politician was ever charged with anything. It struck me as weird then..What has been covered up.

Prince Andrew has just been arrested! Check BBC news! This is big. (Also glad, hope they throw away the key)

Not sure about Dolphin Square - there has been a bestselling book about it written by the former MP Simon Danuick (got that wrong, it's a Polish name). Now, he co-wrote the book Smile for the Camera which was about the MP Cyril Smith's paedophile crimes and how the State let him get away with it, so no stranger to controversy. But his book on D Square doesn't reveal much - it's just about the diverse characters who lived there, including politicians and actors such as Sid James.

It makes me wonder if he set out to get an expose and found nothing, but wrote the book anyway.

That said, I think Dolphin Square is referenced in an early 80s Culture Club video so I wonder if this somehow got picked up by fantasists like Carl Beech who made false allegations. That's another story, but it seems the police are eager to investigate bogus allegations that can be easily disproved, while ignoring other stuff.

I saw something about Epstein writing an email about farming babies with a stronger sucking reflex. Not sure if it’s verified yet though.

Blimey you're quick.

From everything I've read, I'm starting to think Epstein was quite simply a serial killer psyche , but that it's not seen this way because of the privileged context. There are probably serial killers in the elite just as much as in the working class.

I remember posting here about the They - the pedophilistic elites. I was always asked who are the they....

Thanks for this. It's really important to be able to look at the source of any claims when there are so many unverified stories muddying the waters. So this seems pretty clear evidence from primary sources (emails) that an investment group led by Epstein was making regular payments to a university gynaecologist for non specified 'consulting'. That's obviously odd and worth investigation, given that there is a high likelihood there were young women/girls who Epstein's group impregnated. But can you also give us the sources for what you said in your previous post about scans and testimonies from victims that they were forced into pregnancies? Was there evidence that this guy was linked to the scans? Thanks

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When? Please link.

it must have been another person who was posting this on a thread of mine in the Royal family sub, sorry if it is not you, but you hold same opinion about short threads so I thought it is you

Thousands of people have apparently phoned the Sheriff for the area where the ranch is to tell him they know there are 100s of bodies buried there.

They are lucky the Sheriff has his hands full as the only way they could know that is if they were involved.

Some got it from their teapot and some just 'know'. Some saw it on TikTok, Facebook and for all we know some got it from mumsnet.

They should put them in front of a camera and ask "when did you first 'know' this and what were you doing at the time"

People are adding bits to make it more interesting with each retelling.

In my professional role in a London hospital in 1990 I saw a ten year old girl from an Islington care home who was being abused by Savile & others .

I reported to the BBC , police etc . As did many other good police , social workers etc over the next 30 YEARS .
All this time Savile was given privileged access and the ear of politicians & Royalty as well as hosting a major children’s TV programme called Jim’ll Fix It ‘.

It is inconceivable that our Secret Services did not know the history of this man , first reported to the police in the 1950s .

I played a vv small part in getting the Westminster Enquiry into Elite Child Abuse rings set up in the wake of Savile’s death and the consequent public outrage .

Watching how politicians, mainstream press , the police and other trusted institutions worked to shut down those who spoke up was like being in one of those nightmares where you’re aware of some disaster but you can’t speak & let everyone around you know .

I believe that evil man and his despicable accomplice Maxwell would have catered to every disgusting and depraved request imaginable for money and power.

There is loads out there about Epstein not being dead. The escape plan, the body not looking like his, the cameras being off, the Tel Aviv sighting. Someone playing his fortnite character. The Press release issued announibg his death the day before he died. The marks around his neck not being consistent with hanging. The fake body being transported out the front of the prison to confuse the press whilst the real boidy was taken secretly out the back - this is the official version by the way.

No idea on the truth of this.

There have been rumours for decades about a network of highly connected powerful Peados, this was way before any of the Epstein stuff came out

it’s completely horrifying that what I thought was far fetched rumours seems to be real

@IloveOwlsandPenguins As a CSA survivor myself (no links to Savile)
I would like to say 'Thank You' for what you did. You will have saved someone.

The alleged forced abortions and births and Epstein’s particular science obsessions (and science contacts) might point toward that other elite pastime - stem cell research and some men wanting extreme longevity / eternal life.

They employed a gynaecologist and there are ultrasound scan pictures. Victims have stated that they were made to become pregnant, then the babies removed, either through abortion or taken away at birth

I’m missing something here. Completely understand the girls being impregnated, held hostage, babies removed at birth and trafficked. That makes sense (albeit in a very sad way). I don’t understand the abortion aspect though. Why forcefully impregnate them, basically hold them hostage, provide gynae care (given one was on the books), then force an abortion on them? I’m sure there is some reason but I’m not seeing it, maybe it’s just too dark for my mind to wrap itself around?

That reminds me: Sarah’s email to Epstein, after he’d apparently cut her off from his gravy train in Sept 2011, very pointedly mentions the birth of his new baby, not once but three times. (Andrew had lost his Trade Envoy role two months earlier.)

This is taken from a BBC article:

"Don't know if you are still on this bbm [BlackBerry Messenger] but heard from The Duke that you have had a baby boy," the first email says.

"Even though you never kept in touch, I still am here with love, friendship and congratualtions [sic] on your baby boy. Sarah xx."

A follow-up message is then sent to Epstein eight minutes later.

"You have disappeared," the email says. "I did not even know you were having a baby. It was sooooo crystal clear to me that you were only friends with me to get to Andrew. And that really hurt me deeeply. More than you will know."

It has never been publicly confirmed that Epstein had children.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cddgv9nvj9zo

Was this Sarah’s clumsy attempt to use her inside knowledge to manipulate Epstein into opening up the financial taps again? Was it Sarah’s way of saying, ‘Don’t forget, Jeffrey, I know who you are and Andrew has told me what you do?’

Is this what Andrew’s bewildering ‘pizza’ remark was about during the Maitliss interview, that had reportedly flummoxed even Beatrice? It could be an attempt at a warning shot from Andrew, saying, ‘I know that pizzagate is not your crime but I do know about the ones that are’. Maybe ‘pizza’ ended up as another code word.