Limiting MH support to certain cultural areas?

[Mindcultural]

I have today received this message below from a mental health support service for young people.

AIBU to think it’s completely wrong to offer support based on cultural diversity and would like to know how they decide who fits this criteria?

Hi,

I’m getting touch as you have recently made a referral to our Youth In Mind services on behalf of a child or young person.

Unfortunately, we are having to reduce the size of the team for funding reasons, so we now only have funding to support young people from culturally diverse communities, if this is relevant for the individual you referred to us, please can I ask that you complete this form forms.office.com and we will be back in touch accordingly.

If we are now no longer able to offer support to the individual you have made a referral for, please accept our apologies for this. Please feel free to keep an eye on our website for updated information regarding available services as we are always looking for new funding opportunities to allow us to reach more children and young people.

Immoral to help the groups that are most disadvantaged? No need to reply we operate with different ethics

So if you were refused support from the Autistic girls network because your daughter did not meet the culturally diverse criteria you’d would by happy with that?

Of course there are uni condition groups that people can support but surely they should be universal even if it’s a non governmental body.

Because your self-interest is paramount.

Ditto for children with autism- who are now excluded from help if they’re white.

No I suspect you would not accept anything that does not fit your narrative that white children are being discriminated against here. But maybe some people without such narrow minds will read this thread and learn some things.

Self- interest- in what way?

The compassionate left 👏

It’s not disadvantaged people that need mental health help, it’s mentally ill people. A charity should prioritise purely by need of that individual person weighed up against other people seeking help. Nothing else.

Waiting up find other scandalous discrimination. Do other charities only help certain ethnic minorities too? Would be good to know who the racist charities are so we can donate according to our own morals, not theirs!

Can you please name at least one? that non-white kids /adults can ask for help but be rejected because they aren't white?

Facts please?

Even if you think what they are doing is justified, this kind of stuff ends up causing more resentment towards ethnic minorities in the long run. If they actually wanted to make sure the help was going to those most in need of it, each individual applying could be asked to supply basic details of their mental health issues and what other support services they were accessing. Then help could be offered first to those with the most significant issues and/or the least access to other care.

No. Its just complete nonsense that needs calling out.

Give me some concrete examples of how this discrimination is done by stealth? I'm not sure what you mean by that.

Firm agree. It’s not hard to treat everyone equally is it?

It's definitely been eye opening. I predict Daily Mail article in 48 hours, followed by a swift Mind reverse ferret as donations fall through the floor.

And you can see that by looking at their annual reports and accounts it’s all transparent

Some posters have zero experience of supporting seriously ill young people within a broken system and battling for support that isn’t there. They have no experience of how much of a life line charities are . If they did they wouldn’t think that the slamming of doors based on skin colour in such a dire situation is ok .

No it’s better when it’s made clear more publicly. Hiding discrimination behind reports and accounts is a cop out.

Except that several poster have pointed out that it is for children from diverse areas, not children from particular ethnicities. What causes resentment is the kind of deliberate twisting of the facts demonstrated by the right wing, especially the ones further out there. And people who are only concerned about equality when their own privilege is threatened and who dont give a shit at other times.

Because Reform famously have committed to the funding and systemic change needed to ensure all people with mental health needs are provided for?

Oh, no probably not that.

I suspect the money they lose will be bigger than that they received in the grant.

i really hope this ends up in the Daily Mail. I’ve never read the thing in my life but they’d give this suitable publicity at least, and hopefully charities will think again before taking such unethical funding. And hopefully funders might in turn have a think about their morals too!

It probably is - those children are the ones in need becuase they are probably 2-3 times more likely to suffer

it will be something like that

I believe that charities need to be more explicit, People simply don’t have the time to trawler through lots of documents in order to find out how the money was spent. It should be clearly stated their mission what their priorities are and which groups of people they are supporting. People can make their own judgements about whether they wish to give to that charity after all it is a matter of choice when donating.

I don't think you or any of us know that, it wasn't clear.
Even if it did mean people from culturally diverse areas, I still think the same applies. Actually if they did mean children from culturally diverse areas rather than children who are themselves from an ethnic minority, that would be very odd. I can't see how being from a culturally diverse area would make someone disadvantaged and more in need of mental health care.

Having seriously unwell children with zero provision and years of discrimination isn’t a privilege.