Lied to get a jab now friend is angry

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I don’t understand why my friend is annoyed at me as it doesn’t effect anyone else.. part of me thinks it’s jealousy but she’s not speaking to me because I told her how I managed to lose 1.5stone.
backstory- I lied to get an online prescription by saying I was about 1.5stone heavier than I was then when I needed to send photos I just made my scales say more to match the weight I submitted. Not exactly a difficult lie but it worked and I’ve had 2pens of mounjaro 2.5 and I’m now 8.5stone. I feel great, the size I want to be and no side effects so yes I feel smug that my lie worked and I lost the weight easy.
well my friend who has been trying to lose weight too but not via jabs is furious saying I should be ashamed of myself.
surely it doesn’t effect anyone else? I paid full price so can’t be blamed for stealing from the nhs

Have you been on this site before?? So many want to be as teeny tiny as possible. Some of the eating threads are crazy.

You did not lose 1.5 stone from 2 pens. 😆 If only!

She will do and that’s what her mate hates.

All these posters talking about WLI being experimental, and placing them in the same category as heroin 🤣🤣🤣, please educate yourself, the active ingredients of all the WLI have been used for years in treatments for illnesses such as Diabetes etc, they are most certainly not’ experimental’ it’s just that they are being used for a different condition ie Obesity, just the same as using Anti histamine which makes you drowsy for sleeping problems, same scenario: Furthermore, the whole’ eat less move more brigade’ oh yes, why didn’t I think of that, just like Alcoholics should just try really hard stop drinking’ 🤦‍♀️ ffs!! I honestly despair at the ignorance of some people, and with that I will continue to jab my self with these experimental drugs, and await my second head to grow as according to some posters we don’t know what the side effects are therefore as well as a second head I may grow another leg/ arm/ ear: the mind boggles, it really does 😂😂

All my friends are doing it and one of my sisters
they want in on the magic -which it is I guess

I lost loads but started out a mega fatty so didn’t have to lie - I wouldn’t hesitate to lie now tho if I couldn’t get anymore having got into healthy bmi range. Double layer clothing and Handfuls of Two Pound coins in the pockets is what my DSis did. She also put hammers under her bra strap at the back for taking photos.

So what are you going to do when you stop the jabs and the weight goes back on?

FWIW I don’t think you sound smug at all.

Your friend is weird to be angry about this.

I kinda get it. My friend and I used to go together to a PT. I am way heavier than she is and I did take it more seriously. She wanted to lose a couple stone, I needed to lose about six. Anyway over the course of a few years she would lose a couple pounds then gain them back and eventually quit going to training. I lost about two stone then with Covid etc gained it back. Anyhoo last year she got her pharmacist to give her Mounjaro and has lost the two stone and looks great, but without any medical guidance or advice. I can’t take WLI as I have type 1 diabetes. So yes I am jealous. I congratulate her to her face but I do think she ‘cheated’. She could have lost the weight if she’d just taken things a bit more seriously (and stopped drinking at least a bottle a day every day), but instead got the injections though she didn’t qualify (what this says about the pharmacist I don’t know).
I think the injections are a great tool if they are coupled with a change in eating habits and lifestyle. I think they are a life saver for those who have a significant amount of weight to lose. But she went off them, immediately gained half a stone so is back on them. She hadn’t changed her eating habits and has decided to just keep having injections. This hasn’t taught her anything. People who go on them to lose a stone or two - I don’t get it. It also risks exploitation by people who want to get unhealthily skinny. She’s using the injections as a crutch rather than looking at why she overeats and drinks so much. But I admit I’m also annoyed that she is now slim when she was my fellow (not very) ‘fat’ friend!

You’re right.
Except it’s not about being entitled to know someone’s medical circumstances, it’s realising that your friend is deceitful. That’s why I’d be annoyed. I’d also be unhappy that she’s risked her health.

I take a drug that when I first started using it it was in phase 3 trial. They had not worked out the dosage so I was on a huge dose daily. One of the side effects was appetite suppression. It was not like the GLP-1 drugs in that other side effects were minimal. I lost 2 stone in 3 months, my family thought I had an eating disorder. Fortunately when the trial finished the dose was adjusted and I stopped losing weight.

The drug is also used for Parkinson’s, unfortunately because the dosage is 40x that used for my condition, twenty years after it was introduced they discovered that is caused heart valve damage in Parkinson’s patients. As a precaution I have regular echocardiograms even though I’m low risk.

Had they followed the same pattern as the WLI and utilised the side effects of appetite suppression, developing a weight loss drug, they would be facing massive legal action. The drug has few side effects, the appetite suppression did not affect the digestive system, I just never felt hungry. It didn’t affect my energy levels if anything it was a bit of a stimulant.

It took a long time for serious complications to surface. And to those who claim the WLI have been around long enough to be tried and tested, Mounjaro is of the same family of drugs but has additional modes of action. It’s only been around for 2-3 yrs. Despite being in the same families you will always get the odd one or two drugs that cause serious side effects both short term and longterm despite the safety of other proven members of the family.

I took a drug that was in the same class/family as Tamoxifen, after 3 mnths it caused acute liver failure. Not long after my reaction was reported it was withdrawn from the market because it was found to cause liver failure in over 30% of patients who were prescribed it. It had been on the market for a while before it became apparent that the risk of liver failure was high because of its niche use.

All drugs can cause serious side effects but the risk varies. A 1 in a million risk is not likely to cause concern but a 1 in 10 would probably lead to withdrawal if the drug.

There are serious risks associated with WLI but when used for diabetes and obesity the risk of death or serious side effect as a result of the disease far outweighs the risk from the drug. In a healthy patient who has no risk from associated disease, the risk of serious side effects becomes a much greater problem.

If you develop gallstones from the associated rapid weight loss then you have effectively greatly increased the risk of death through infection or as a result of surgery. If you didn’t need to lose weight you increased your risk unnecessarily.

I would be less concerned about what your friend thinks and more worried about using a higher dose of medication needed for your weight and more importantly, the long term side effects of these relatively new medications. People are developing irreversible blindness among other things with these weight loss injections and the makers are facing resulting lawsuits in the US. Your friend has nothing to be jealous of, she should be warning you about the effects this is having on your health.

Doesn’t the jab make you healthier? Your friend should be happy for you for that.
And perhaps you should be trying to help your friend get the jab.
Then we’d all be happy.

F.F.S.

Internal
smuggary… clearly you’re not good at it!

I'm mainly concerned about the link with the thyroid cancer risk. Although being hypothyroid as all the women in my family are (hereditary), and that isn't of particular concern as I understand thus far, it's too close for comfort for me to take the gamble.

Same as stoppping any diet I suppose? You eat calories enough for maintenance?

do you ask the same question for people going to WW? what are you going to do once you stop going?

This made cackle 😂😂😂😂 jab away, so many people I know are on it whilst I am fat and pregnant 😁 happy that theyre happy!

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Shoot up drugs!?!

Just eat more fruit….. ah that good old balanced diet of just eating fruit!

A 🏅 for you!

Why did you get overweight? Why did you allow that to happen?

Why do you judge people for how they lose weight? Do you like being judged for becoming overweight?

What’s the NHS got to do with it? The OP paid privately for the jabs.

Obesity costs the NHS a fortune.

Why are people taking this so personally?

I think the cheering on the OP is to counteract the outrage responses. Posters acting like they're so concerned by how dangerously irresponsible the OP is, then sticking the boot in, in the same sentence.

It's giving , bitterness or envy because they either can't afford it or are too sensible nervous to take it themselves.

I used medication to quit smoking last year because it's a thousand times easier and more effective than using willpower or pointless nicotine replacement alone. The reason It's so effective is because it' comes with some quite serious side effects, but similar to the people taking these weight loss drugs, for me it's worth the risk.
I hope I don't come off as smug to my many friends who are still smoking or vaping, but if I do , so be it.

That's fair enough, but aren't your friends entitled to some privacy? Why are they obliged to tell you?

Well, you won’t be the only one lying to get it. If you are feeling good and happy about the
results then fine. Enjoy and move on!

You def come off as smug! 🤣

Don't understand why you would .need mounjaro at your weight. It's sheer laziness and I would be totally pissed off aswell! You're lucky you never had any side effects
Just because you paid full price for it means nothing. Are you going to keep doing it every time you put some weight on? You obviously see it as your god given right to lie to get it because you can pay.