Will dr’s give me DD medical records

[Funparsnip]

DD is 15, she went to the doctors yesterday but won’t tell me why. I’m waiting for the morning rush to die down and then will ring the surgery and ask. If the receptionist can’t tell me, can I do a request for her medical records seeing as she’s a minor and I’m her parent? I only found out by accident so now I’m wondering how many other times she’s gone and not told me! Very very tempted to read her diary but that would be an invasion of her privacy.

Get a grip, OP.

No you can't access her records after the age of 11/12.

I can see why she won't tell you what's going on with her. You sound very demanding and intrusive.

Don't think so. I have a friend who's son is 12 and she needed a signed form from him to get blood test results.

Also it would be a gross invasion of privacy. Don't do it.

I have permission to discuss my dds medical records because she is autistic but she has had to give me specific permission to speak and act on her behalf.

When I tried to find out vaccination dates for DS17 for a school ski trip form they wouldn't tell me and said he had to do it himself. Same with DS15 when I tried to get him an appointment for acne (both I had been asked to do by my sons). Unfortunately DS17 couldn't be arsed and made up a date for the form! And DS15 still hasn't got round to making the appointment. 😬

Good for her for exercising her right to privacy. How do you even know she went to the doctor’s? At 15 I was pretty well a free agent and if I’d had an appointment with the doctor my mother wouldn’t have known if I chose not to tell her.

Same here.

My daughter is now 20 and she has given permission for me to call and discuss various things on her behalf. It’s been set up on her records since she was about 15. She is autistic and has various disabilities so needs a bit of help dealing with this kind of thing sometimes.

Even having that set up, I’ve never had unfettered access to her medical records.

Leaving aside the “should” you ask for your daughter’s medical records (no, you shouldn’t), I would assume they’d say no if you ask.

your daughter won't tell you as she clearly doesn't want you to know, you don't have that kind of relationship, all you doing getting her records will push her away more

Wonder why she keeps things from you 🤦🏻‍♀️

No you shouldn’t med records are confidential at her age.

I have permission to discuss my dd because she’s autistic with a range of mental health issues, she as 16 was asked to sign something then again at 18.

No you can’t access her notes unless you have her permission as she’s over 13.

only if they are under 13yo. 13 and over they have to give the surgery their permission

@Funparsnip I think you are kidding yourself, you are clearly capable of doing an internet search so why come on this site for the answer when its there for you to read privately....deep down you want support and comfort and maybe approval? I would be going out of my mind with worry and running lots of different scenarios through my head if it was me. I 100% get the concern.

So I think you need to think very carefully here about what you are hoping to achieve from speaking to the GP and what you would do with the information you could glean, if indeed it were possible.

As I understand it (but I am no expert) a GP in England cannot disclose a competent 15‑year‑old’s medical information to a parent without the young person’s consent, unless there is a serious risk of harm. That’s the law and standard NHS practice.

Young people aged 16–17 are presumed to have capacity, but under‑16s can also have confidentiality rights if they are “Gillick competent.” A 15‑year‑old who can understand the nature and consequences of seeking medical help is usually considered competent.
That means:

• The GP cannot confirm the reason for the visit
• The GP cannot confirm whether the daughter attended
• The GP cannot share test results or concerns
• The GP cannot discuss contraception, mental health, or anything else

…unless the daughter explicitly agrees.

The only exception is if the GP believes the young person is at serious risk of harm, in which case safeguarding overrides confidentiality.

But lets presume you could, your daughter will presumably know you have asked for her information. So what will she do going forward? She won't go to the GP with her problems, where will she go and she currently doesn't feel able to talk to you and don't you think its better for her to speak to an informed adult rather than bottle it up or speak with her peers? Sounds like she has her head screwed on and you need to be patient but I totally get how difficult this is for you.

I think you need to spend time building a relationship with your daughter and getting her to open up to you.

In all honesty if I were you, I would be thinking its probably contraception/sexual or mental health related so I get your angst. Better she speaks to the GP rather than no-one and if its something else then you need to build the relationship with her. This doesn't mean she has a bad relationship with you, just that perhaps this is something very private or exceptionally awkward for her to talk about.

I'd say something along the lines of “I know you’ve been to the GP. I’m not angry. I just want you to be safe. You don’t have to tell me anything before you’re ready, but I’m here for you.” Then back off!

What you shouldn’t do is call the GP expecting information. The GP will politely refuse, and your daughter may feel betrayed if she finds out. As hard as it may be, zip that mouth shut and let her come to you.

If she’s judged to be Gillick competent then no you can’t access her records. You will cause irreparable damage to your relationship if you do. She will be r trust you again.

Hopefully OP reads the diary and her daughter's written that she's a privacy invading twat.

No, you can't. And even if you could you shouldn't. I would never, ever forgive my mum for doing this. It's even worse than reading her diary imo.

I believe if they are over 13 they do not need parental involvement for appointments.

No you can’t. They will protect your DD‘s privacy.

I argued the case in terms of G competency once with my DD‘s surgery as she’s under 16 but over 13. This was regarding a minor admin issue and had to speak to practice manager in the end.

Over 16 they’re definitely deemed competent but under that threshold they may not. HOWEVER- the OP‘s DD saw the doctor in person and this IMO constitutes Gillick competency. The OP needs to build trust with her daughter which clearly isn’t there.

You won’t be able to get them in the circumstances you describe, no.

So you’d better get used to the fact that she’s entitled to her privacy.

Reading other people’s diaries is the behaviour of a total cunt, FYI.

Ignoring the should you or not side of things the answer is no they won’t just give you the information. You could go through the formal process of a subject access request but as your dd is likely gillick competent they would ask her if she wanted the information shared. There are others exemptions for not releasing medical notes to parents. You can look at at information on ICO’s website for this.

If you persist in trying (and I agree with everyone else, not only can you not, you should not and its absolutely correct that you cannot) and she finds out that you asked, she said no, you persisted..

You are going to create a bigger problem than whatever it is she's gone to the GP about.

Wind your fucking neck in.

In short no. Thank goodness 🙄

Have some consideration.

💐OP, I hope your DD is ok and that she speaks to you soon.

I'm just amazed at the number of virtuous mothers on MN who would learn that their 15yo DD has gone to the GP behind their back and would carry on with their life as if nothing happened because it's her "life" and "none of their business". I don't believe it for one second.

Yeah, I think this differs between GPs. Some release records for under 16’s.

But, OP would be better talking to her daughter.

But that's the point... it's potentially not normal and everyone is encouraging the OP to consider why she's refusing to tell her anything and could the OP change her behaviour to encourage the daughter to open up to her. Storming to the GP and going through a diary will not encourage the 15 year old to talk.

We as the readers have no idea about the home life of the 15 year old girl and only have OP's version of events.