Lucy letby

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Do you think she did it ? Watched the documentary and I’m not sure she should have been convicted

God save us from the judgement of the general public. "Looking up the parents on Facebook". I'd better hope I never get accused of murdering my ex boyfriends.

Seriously (unrelated), I think this country has a problem with accepting our long standing institutions - in this case the criminal justice system - are deeply flawed. I do think it's a kind of institutional arrogance.

It's a cover up. Just like Trump and Andrew, she's the scapegoat while others get away with murder, literally.

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I thought she was changed to days (deaths stopped at night) put in a clerical role away from ward - then came back on the ward after meeting with HR and getting that apology from consultants

I didn’t suggest miscarriages of justice are not real. At all. Just saying the one thing I can’t get past, I see all sides. And yes I knew all that about the therapist but I’m still allowed to be suspicious of her writing down that it’s her fault. I don’t think the therapist told her to actually write that explicitly.

Or me when I sell something on Ebay and someone has a fascinating name or a village name that sounds wildly eccentric and I look it up. Or an old pal I moved away from ..Wonder whether they are still around etc etc...
Curiosity and ongoing care don't confirm a murderous intent

Lucy was well-liked. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous. She had friends before and after her move from the neonatal unit who couldn't believe she was under suspicion for harming babies.

Also you say “that’s what we’re exploring here” like we can’t explore the fact she might be guilty too? The op asks what we think. Not that we can only talk about it if we think she’s innocent. I’m open to both sides by the way, not rigid in my thoughts, I think it’s a healthy way to view this since it’s such a complex case

When I watch these things; I either come out of it thinking she’s guilty as hell, or completely innocent. Depending which way the bias is.

When I forget about it all and I suppose just have the residuals in my head. Then I always return to I do think in all likelihood she did do it. There are bits that just don’t add up to me. Don’t ask me to prove it. I honestly couldn’t. It’s just an instinct.

But she never said the therapist told her to write stuff, it only was said afterwards. Why did she not tell police that in her interviews?Why didn’t the defence have the therapist give evidence to corroborate it?

Why her defence was conducted the way it was is one of the big questions.

Hello again. No, she never came back on the ward.

She was changed nights to days (mostly) but the deaths and collapses didn't follow her as people claim sometimes. The police found collapses from night and day over the whole year they looked at. Then they dropped the cases Lucy Letby hadn't been there for. So of course it looks as if they followed her from night to day.

Lots of interesting information coming out of the police investigation in the last few months to show how they ignored things they couldn't link to Lucy Letby

https://unherd.com/2025/02/why-the-letby-case-isnt-closed/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/02/07/letby-police-ignored-other-baby-deaths-on-unit/

It was proven beyond all reasonable doubt. That is exactly what the jury were asked to decide.

Her best friend said the staff there were bitchy to her and she was surprised LL wanted to continue working there as she didn’t want to

The jurys decided she is guilty beyond all reasonable doubt (majority 10-1 or unanimous) based on the evidence they were presented with.Have we sen every peice of evidence the jury saw?
Ive been a nurse for 30 yrs and Lucy Letby behaved very oddly indeed ie:taking notes home by mistake in that quantity, carefully storing and keeping them rather than disposing of them,the facebook activity ,the confession notes. Ive known thousands of nurses over 30 yrs and never ever come across behaviour quite like that .
I would be interested to know if when LL was moved from nights to days wether the death pattern changed from nights to days (before the unit was downgraded)
What are the chances that the medical staff framed her because of their or systemic failings regarding these babies deaths and then the nurse they framed had those notes,the strange fb activity, the ?confession notes?

On the other hand there does now seem to be new expert medical opinion as to wether the babies were murdered or not which surely warrants a retrial.
Do i think she did it ? Im not certain beyond all reasonable doubt and think there should be a retrial .

If only the prosecution could have had all the evidence Netflix have!! Yes she’s guilty. I could create a documentary and make Rosemary West look innocent.

She definitely seemed to have a weak defence in relation to the medical theory’s.
I still struggle to understand why she had so many medical notes at home.

My gut feeling tells me she didn’t do it. She just didn’t seem the type.

I don't know why, but something doesn't feel right about it all. Something feels 'off.' I have a niggling doubt, and a weird feeling that Lucy is innocent, and has been set up. Someone else is guilty - I don't know who - and they have got her to carry the can.

I have never, in 50 odd years of my life EVER felt this way about anyone else who has been convicted of being a murderer. (That they may be innocent.)

My point was that subsequent to the trial, I believe reasonable doubts have been raised.

I'm not sure. But unless there were things presented in the trial that weren't covered in the press, podcasts or documentaries (I've followed most of the press coverage), I think I would struggle to say she was guilty beyond ANY reasonable doubt.
I'm not totally convinced of innocence either but that's not what a jury is asked.
The Netflix show didn't sway me either way.

I have been following the case for a while and absolutely believe that the case against her wasn't proved beyond reasonable doubt. There's a fair few threads on here and ( understandably) people haven't read the whole thread so the same questions/ " proof" are arising again and again.
It would be a lot of work but does anyone with far more knowledge than me have the time to do a bullet point post to explain the main points that were used to convict
i.e insulin
Post it notes
Handover notes
Baby deaths appearing to reduce once she was off the ward
Being accused of killing a child when actually not on duty
swipe cards
Disparity of phone records
etc etc
I think all of these have coherently and convincingly been explained
However the main issue with her conviction in my opinion is that world renowned experts have taken the trouble to involve themselves...with the proviso that if their conclusion was that she was guilty it would be reported - and they have concluded that there were no murders
If that is true then obviously there is no case left to answer.
I think that a lot of people are quite understandably upset because it was babies who had died.
If a staff member in a care home had been accused because several residents died and the staff member was " always there" because they were there most days because they were understaffed ...the staff member used FB to look up families, cuddled their cat (!) I think the case would have been thrown out.
In any case we should all be worried that we could be accused/ found guilty by the public on such flimsy "evidence"

Do you know her? If you don’t you sound very vulnerable to life.

out of interest, what makes you think someone else is guilty rather than the view espoused by the medical experts, that there were no murders at all and it was the result of poor care in an overstretched ward?

I disagree. The note thing has been explained a million times.

I have been a nurse for 30 years and I do not find it weird that she googled the families at all. Some people are curious and social media aids that.

She had handover sheets which again is not that weird along with others from babies that didn't die. Ultimately just because someone is deemed 'weird' does not necessarily make them a baby killer, there is not a single concrete shred of proof that she 100% did this and that is most worrying given her life sentence.

Have you read the Private Eye investigation? It’s very careful and makes it clear that there’s not even any evidence a single baby was murdered, let alone that this particular nurse did it.

I've always felt uneasy about the convictions. and thought she was the scapegoat for a under performing hospital. And the number of experts who have come out and expressed doubts since she was convicted worries me.

I really hope this isn't the case, but an innocent person being locked up for ever and her life being ruined as a consequence doesn't bear thinking about.

Incidentally Rosemary West's barrister did maintain her innocence until the evidence (and testimonies) were so overwhelming that he eventually had to concede.

RW refuses to talk admit it and still to this day maintains that she is innocent. She's in full denial mode (or incredibly canny since Fred killed himself and can't dispute anything she now says).

From the testimonies of victims that survived, ex-lovers and even from her own children, Rosemary was the more sadistic of the pair and she enjoyed hurting people. Fred was allegedly was terrified of upsetting her (from the nanny that escaped).