To think that no racist ever admits they are a racist

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“I’m not a racist but…”
I hear this so often. Does any racist ever come out and say they are a racist?
I don’t think so.

I'm not American so not in a position to comment on what's going on there. Here in the UK, decent young men are not turning into racists because people challenge racism.

Isnt it funny how people are terrified to be seen discriminating against other races but not of discriminating against single moms in their own country. The same fear factor doesn't exist. Just noticing. Neither is ok IMO

My 40 year old stepdaughter thinks describing a black person as black is being racist. I think she’s being ridiculous.

Racism Is entirely about intent, always will be. Anything else is about attention and making everything about you.

Nobody is special, you don't have a device right for others to not be mistaken/make mistakes and that mistake impact you in any way including about race. And if that happens, it isn't racism it is normal every day life and people learning and interacting with the world.

I get what you’re saying. I think it’s ignorance more than a decision to take against a particular race creed or religion when a person doesn’t understand why they are racist.

This seems to be the favoured argument amongst racists these days.

We're only racists because you made us racist by calling us racist.

And we're only voting for a far right party because you described us as far right or racist etc.

The complete lack of logic leads me to conclude that they must just be a little bit hard of thinking.

If people carry on "making mistakes" without taking the trouble to educate themselves, then it absolutely is racism.

We can't just allow people to perpetually hide behind the excuse that they didn't mean it.

Yes, if you vote for Reform/Conservatives. If you vote Greens/Labour/LibDem then you're just 'misunderstood'. 😁

Ok but a more realistic version of those quotes could be...

"We're only racists because you made us racist by calling us racist."
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"We're not racist, but the fact that lots of odd people call us racist, means we will stop taking them seriously and ignore any valid points they could have made about the language we use of the impact of our actions."

"And we're only voting for a far right party because you described us as far right or racist etc."
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"I don't feel the party I vote for is far right, and the fact that its critics call it and anyone else they don't like far right, means I can safely discount their views. And where before I may have felt a stigma of voting Reform, and done so furtively, now I can do it openly and proudly because its better to be associated with them than with the woke weirdos."

I missed an "i" out, yet you knew what I meant. You could go across to pedant's corner and make a big fuss about it if you really like.

You will also know how CRT has been mis/used to say that being white is bad.

You can also point to the power + predjudice = racism from sociology that some use to redefine the term and is being used by some to state that you can't be racist against white people.

No. It takes intent, not just an ignorant turn or phrase.

Only a racist would respond to being described as racist by saying that the mere act of someone calling out their racism is enough to make them stop caring about whether or not they say sound racist.

Any normal person would want to understand why they were being called racist so that they could take steps to avoid sounding racist in the future.

But you can carry on practising your mental gymnastics if it makes you feel better about yourself.

Depends on the context really. I'll describe someone as black, white etc if I am actually describing a person to someone.
It's a distinguishing factor in their appearance so helps to describe them and identify them to others.
Nothing racist about that.
Using the word black to describe someone out of context...
Not so sure why it's needed ?
Same as age, sex gender etc.

So if someone walks up to an Asian person and says 'you pxxi cunt, go back to your own country' they are excused from it being racist if they say/claim they didn't know it was racist to say that?

No that just means they're both thick and racist.

“The word can get in the bin as far as I'm concerned.”

Must be nice for you to be able to say that. Quite a privileged position to be in. Black / brown people don’t have the same luxury.

I don't think either of your assertions are true.

If I am called racist, transphobic, a Nazi, or a fascist, (as I have been many times despite being a lefty voting, liberal remainer type) I will just assume they are the kind of person who uses such terms to try and shut down opposing arguments.

Illegal immigrants isn't a fucking race though is it. It's a person entering a country illegally regardless of race

Depends.

If someone said, "my new co-worker is black, but he's actually alright." That's racist even if the person saying it likely didn't think it was, or intended it to be. This is the sort of comment we used to hear regularly from the older generations who were inherently racist but ignorantly thought racisim was shouting the "n" word at someone. It's racist because they were saying exactly what they thought, showing a racist thought pattern - they just didn't think it was.

But if some used a racist word in complete error because they didn't understand what it meant, like a small child repeating something they heard or someone unintentionally using the wrong word, that's not racist because it wasn't showing a racist thought pattern, it's just a plain error with no intention.

Either way, people are allowed to be offended, and an apology is due in both situations. If the person doesn't apologise (even if it was an error) or even get defensive, that can also in itself be racist.

Yes. Instead of taking a step back to reflect on why they might be calling you that and whether they might have a point, you will just automatically assume that they are the problem and not you.

I don't know why you think being a lefty voting, liberal remainer type might make you immune from racism?

And this is exactly why people are saying that the word “racist” has lost its meaning.

It is NOT racist to be concerned about the large number of young, likely damaged men, entering the country illegally without any means of being able to identify them.

We know nothing of their background, any mental health condition they may have, prior convictions etc. And although no stats have been released (or likely will) we know that such men do go on to commit sexual and violent crimes, mostly against women and children.

These are valid concerns; it is quite frankly absurd to label such concerns as racist. And people stop taking you seriously.

But the same concern wasn't raised when loads of Ukrainians came over. In fact people were welcoming them into their homes. Lots of British men seemed to use the scheme as a backdoor dating service?! Taking advantage of young women in need of shelter.

So when white people come fleeing war it's ok. When brown ones come fleeing war they're near enough blamed for the collapse of British society.

Which country are you talking about?

I don't support anyone being here illegally but I think that asylum seekers should be welcomed - and either returned or given asylum.

It’s interesting Robert Merton concept of social strain/self fulfilling prophecy has been used for years to explain why young black men are drawn disproportionately into crime etc. yet try and apply that to young white boys it’s suddenly a load of codswallop. Your use of “racist” has just devalued it further

In what way do you think undocumented individuals who we know nothing about who have been brought up in countries with culture:values at odds with the UK should be welcomed? Are you opening your home to them? What part of the UK economy should bear the cost of those? Which part of IK society should lose out to bear the costs? How do you plan to assimilate them into UK culture so they don’t disrupt the norms, values and traditions of the UK?

Ah, so ageism is ok “the older generations who were inherently racist” dear God!!!!