Polanski is a buffoon

[Bertiebiscuit]

How anyone can take the Green party leader Zac Polanski seriously is completely beyond me. He has zero grasp of economics, beyond conning women out of ££££s by pretending he could hypnotise them to increase their bust measurements. He is the worst representative of gay men who worship the men pretending to be women, with no regard for womens and girls' right to privacy, dignity and safety. The man is a 24 carat buffoon.

If Reform have picked up on this, it’s because they think it’s a vote winner.

Farage is many things, most of them appalling, but one thing he is good at is communicating persuasively to the masses and swaying public opinion. He’s very astute and talented in that way, unfortunately. So if they’re communicating on it, it’s because he knows it plays well with lots of voters, rather than your unevidenced idea that it’s not something many people care about.

I would never vote Reform, but find it a really weird stance to knee-jerk disavow any principles you hold dear just because it happens to coincide with what they say. Why on earth would any adult do that? It’s incredibly infantile. Either you hold a position on principle because you think it’s right, or you don’t. Doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks.

Farage no doubt believes the Earth revolves around the Sun. If he states that to be the case tomorrow, I’m not going to fall over myself to react by taking up the opposite view, just because he’s said it. Would you? You’d be mad if you did so, wouldn’t you? It’s the kind of thing a four year old does, not a rational adult.

If tomorrow Reform identify that it would be a vote-winner for them to espouse a principle you hold dear, and make a policy on that basis that they then start promoting, would you change your mind on it and ditch your own dearly-held beliefs? Let’s say they make a u-turn on abortion rights - what then? What would you do?

For all your wailing about GC women ‘pushing voters to the right’ if we have the temerity to voice our opinions, you’re curiously quiet on how the left-wing parties could counter any such swing to the right. They could neutralise Farage and Reform in this area very, very easily, couldn’t they? All they need to do is come out and say that they will protect women’s sex-based rights in a meaningful and credible way. Labour could do this tomorrow, and being in government they could demonstrate their commitment to women’s rights fast, if they so chose. Phillipson could announce today that they will be implementing the EHRC guidance on the Supreme Court ruling. Would neutralise Reform on this st a stroke.

So why don’t they? And why aren’t you berating them, instead of calling people names on here?

And as this is a thread on Polanski and the Greens, they could also make a statement today that stops Reform taking votes from them, by pledging commitment to protecting women’s sex-based rights. Then we could vote for them with a clear conscience. Why don’t they? And why aren’t you asking them to do so, if you’re so worried about Reform?

If we do what you’re badgering us to do, and vote for the misogynistic parties anyway, without any such commitment, they’ll say we agree with their policies and they have a mandate to further erode women’s sex-based rights. You do you, but I’m not giving them the excuse to do that.

Who is saying they align with the extreme right here? What we are saying is when many of the left parties have policies that are totally intolerable to a number of women then the political ground naturally moves away from the left. It’s these batshit policies that are losing the left power. Thr Greens, Lib Dem’s, SNP and Labour can all come out firmly stating that woman means biological women, transwomen are men and deserve none of women’s things (prisiins, loos, jobs, sports etc etc). That moral high ground and political power is there to be taken by these parties, they just don’t understand why they should and that’s why the right is gaining power just as Trump gained power.

Really when are you going to learn that nobody on this thread cares about you accusing them of towing the Reform line?

Are Reform planning on taking votes away from people? I confess they are a party I wholly ignore but I didn’t realise this.

And why have you changed the whole discussion on this thread to wanting to keep Liberal Democracies? Which countries do you believe are Liberal Democracies? A term I am unfamiliar with (but am willing to learn)
Meanwhile Polanski IS a (dangerous) buffoon.

Not only that. They banned the two women members of the public from the town hall because they expressed their legally held views and illegally removed one of them from their role on the remuneration committee.

as I said, the Greens are undemocratic and authoritarian. The very opposite of a liberal democracy.

I don’t exactly think he’s a buffoon but I also don’t think he’s the answer to everything as others do.

I agree he has some very badly thought out positions and doesn’t seem to understand economics. My biggest concern is his views about NATO though, which also seem to change daily.

🤣🤣 a sly bit of ageism there along with the personal insults. I’m nowhere near my retirement and my daughters are still teens - they care too. It’s fine for you not to care, we’ll recover your rights for you even if you currently think you don’t need them.

I'm not going to be told not to have an opinion on highlighting the attack on Liberal Democracies your line of thinking is risking.

How is wanting to regain single/sex places an attack on liberal democracies??

Golden I really do think it would help if you just now and again explained what you actually mean. In real terms - how will fighting for women’s safety attack liberal democracy? Can you explain what you mean?

Excellent post @BunfightBetty 👏👏👏

I hear today that the Green Party propose scrapping student loan debts. An interesting and eyecatching policy with no detail how they propose to pay for the £120bn write off. This policy has ‘I don’t understand anything economic at all’ written all over it.

And they will have this in their manifesto hoping it gains them votes from deluded younger people. As you say how is this debt going to be paid off?

What is out of the “extreme right handbook”?

Extreme right is the likes of Nazi ideology.

Given people on here have pointed out Polanski and the Green party’s hatred for women and Jews I’d say they are reading the extreme right handbook.

You won’t gaslight us into believing it’s “extreme right” to want to keep predatory men out of our single sex spaces.

Pointing out you’re employing a continued outpour of buzz words in place of any actual debate isn’t “bullying”. DARVO indeed

What far right extremes have been posted here?

And what is the attack on liberal democracies.

Just a simple explanation will do, I’m amazed you find it so hard.

But I have to say, people like @Goldenbear are the exact people putting people off left politics.

Im a lifelong Labour voter (bar tactical votes, but always in support of Labour). I’m changing direction (probably into no man’s land as currently politically homeless) not only because I’ve found Starmer’s Labour to be the most Tory-like Labour Government, but because the left - which once had a wholly sensible collective of people who cared about women, poor people and the working classes - is now inhabited with unintelligent mouthpieces who say things like “So you’re transphobic! Why not go to Farage” - and they do it relentlessly and ENTIRELY in place of a reasonable debate. I am, and always have, been a person who will debate anything. But debating with an adult toddler is impossible and I don’t know where the hell they’ve come from, but these half wits have picked the left to settle.

You said you voted Green at the last election??

Yes.

you only have to look at Labour Party memberships now.

Green are anti-women and anti-Jew, they are the most far right far-left party in existence

The poster later admitted they aren’t young at all, they made it up because someone was patronising or something.

Yes I wonder if @Goldenbear thinks this is the actions of someone who isn’t far right. Because you can bet your bottom dollar if it was Farage celebrating a man getting away with breaking a woman’s back, golden would be telling us all we agree with a woman beater

You said it here

Nk please care to tell me where I expressed <checks notes> far right extremes and how I’ve shown I’m anti-democracy

The anti Jew stuff is horrific. I’m sorry but I don’t care about Palestine. It’s not something we can massively influence so I’d far rather we concentrate on things we can. MPs wittering on about Palestine is such a waste of UKgovernment time

I have also resigned my membership over him. He is all mouth and trousers. Even if you take away whatever you might feel about his stance on trans issues, the rest of his policies just make no sense. And he responds to any criticism or even debate by casting aspersions on the person who dares to ask.
The only reason he is doing well is because there are huge numbers of people disillusioned with everyone else and they just see a Green who looks passionate but havent actually realised that he is completely clueless. It's an absolute shame. As an old leftie, we are crying out for a decent politician to take the reins and give us someone to vote for. Polanski is not that person. He is a complete idiot.
The only positive thing I can say about him is that I don't think he is going to last that long. You can't hide that level of dipshittery for very long.

Nobody has bullied you

People have got frustrated that you won’t give a straight answer as to exactly how we are all reform supports as you say

You have called repeatedly people:

• Schills
• Thick
• Far right
• Reform supporters
• Trolls
• Desciples (whatever that means but you mean it as an insult)

You also lied when you said I made a misogynistic slur and wrongly accused people of not spelling correctly

So who’s the bully?

Also there is a lot of tension between the pro trans cohort and the Islamist cohort. I think it will be very hard to keep both sides happy, especially when the genderists want anyone who disagrees purged.

yup. Just look at the difficulty’Your Party’ has squaring this circle. It’s extremely entertaining.

You keep saying this (that single sex spaces aren’t a voting priority) but have offered no proof.

Almost all women in the U.K. want to retain single sex spaces.

Id say that’s pretty compelling

What opinions are extreme exactly? Which ones? Be specific