Polanski is a buffoon

[Bertiebiscuit]

How anyone can take the Green party leader Zac Polanski seriously is completely beyond me. He has zero grasp of economics, beyond conning women out of ££££s by pretending he could hypnotise them to increase their bust measurements. He is the worst representative of gay men who worship the men pretending to be women, with no regard for womens and girls' right to privacy, dignity and safety. The man is a 24 carat buffoon.

Exactly! Abortion rights are small fry compared to trying to force women to put up with blokes in frocks stealing all their rights. The two aren’t at all comparable.

WRONG!!! It's a MAJOR ISSUE. Just because you don't think womens rights is an important issue doesn't mean most agree with you.

Dangerous to womens hard won rights and to rape survivors like me!

PP have mentioned Reform. You need to ask them why they introduced Farage's party into the thread.

I am well aware of what the thread is about as I have followed it from the start.

Exactly. Trans people who stay away from womens stuff I’m fine with. Some trans people just want to live their lives in peace. Transwomen can use the men’s loo and changing room. It harms no one.

That's your opinion but it's not mine. Nor I imagine is it the opinion of thousands of women who need or desire an abortion. Just ask American women for a start, or Irish women who have only recently stopped having to travel to the UK to have one.
It's not a matter of either/or with women's right to privacy.

Just say you're a Mens Rights Activist and be done with it. Don't use women and rape and DV survivors as your figleaf or trans to give your garden variety misogyny a veneer of respectability. When you say women and girls should come across this in our spaces where we are in a state of vulnerability and partial to full undress and put up with it, many of us rape survivors, you show that this is all about misogyny.

Life for the male sex (and that includes transwomen) is pretty damn good. They are on top of the world and have every right there is and then some. They have managed to in less than a decade re-write the definition of women, infiltrate government and education and health to promote their Mens Rights ideology, to remove womens spaces, even how we define themselves. You're taking the piss! Life for women and girls and rape survivors like me who want to advocate for womens HARD WON single sex spaces and lose our jobs for it is shithouse. Stop gaslighting women and making the oppressors out to be the victims.

Wow. The thread has taken a dramatic turn.

I apologise then, I misunderstood you.

That's fine. Thanks.

This is about male vs female. Not 'trans' people. Whether they are trans or not, is incidental. MALE bodies. You think you can put males in female spaces by re-badging males as 'trans'. Those that defend the eradication of womens spaces are white affluent middle class who won't have need to go to a battered womens shelter or even a public toilet. They are privileged and don't understand the experience of working class women who must use public facilities. Your privilege and arrogance blinds you to what working class women in public see and experience. And to what rape survivors and domestic violence victims experience.

I guess you haven't heard of female toilets or female change rooms or female facilities...

What kind of life of privilege must you lead to think female only spaces are not necessary, and that our foremother feminists who fought for them were wasting their time? Ask any rape survivor or DV survivor to explain how ignorant and just how privileged your mindset is.

The thing that makes saying trans identifying men can use women’s single sec spaces REALLY dangerous for women as in the past a women would have been able to shout ‘pervert! There’s a pervert in the women’s! Alert security someone! Call the police!’

If we let trans identifying men use the women’s single sex spaces that woman - who is rightly trying to protect her and other women’s safety - could be labelled a bigot. She hasn’t a clue who this bloke is. He could be a kindly trans women or a pervert, but he’s a bloke and a bloke in a women’s space is usually a real danger. So whatever likes of the Green Party are asking women to do is to ignore their finely honed protective instinct because it’s nasty andd bigoted and this is worrying. I can’t see why they can’t see that.

Ps mid forties middle class woman. Sexually assaulted by 3 strangers and 4 other people who were known to me.

Genuinely, if you think the rights of women, girls and rape survivors like me to not have a female only single sex space every single day when out is not important, you are suggesting women self-exclude from society and you really need to get your priorities right. Girls are skipping school when on their period because they have no safe space to change their sanitary pads since the boys listen and giggle to the sounds of the girl unwrapping plastic in the cubicle and then kick over the sanitary bins in the 'gender neutral' school toilets. Thus affecting their education.

Women are restricting their fluids during the day so they don't have to go to the 'gender neutral' toilets at work, risking a UTI. I had a parent die from sepsis due to a UTI. I know how serious that is.

Your prioritises and dangerous wrong and you need to get them right. Because womens spaces eliminated the Urinary Leash (google it) and YOU want to RESTORE IT. You want women to self-exclude from society. That is actually the end result of your hatefully misogynist beliefs.

Quite. What has the ECHR done to defend womens rights?

Have they supported a woman who was suspended because she didn't want to change her menstrual blood-soaked pants in from of a male? No.

Have they supported the nurses who didn't want a male to expose his penis to them through his boxers while asking them when they are getting undressed? No.

Have they supported the black woman who was suspended for accurately referring to a male as she was catheterising him, sex-based language that was necessary since she was catheterising a penis - the same male that called her a n*igg#r, and lunged to attack her? Did they intervene to defend this woman of minority? No.

Did they intervene in the Forstater case or any case where a woman was sacked from her job for standing up for her sex-based rights? No.

Have they ever stood up for rape survivors and Domestic Violence victims who needed female only spaces and female only rape crisis centres and female only battered womens shelters? No.

Just what has the ECHR ever done for women. They're a toothless tiger who will prioritise males at each and every single turn.

Agree. My DD is a member of the Green Party. She’s swallowed the kool-aid on a lot of issues though.
His hatred of Israel knows no bounds - I don’t care if he’s Jewish, I am too and find him abhorrent.

Maybe have a look at the statistical evidence. Over 4 countries. UK, US, Canada, NZ. Perhaps also look up the acronym AGP.

If Badenoch and Farage supported prison time for animal cruelty, would you stubbornly and spitefully choose the opposite because you are a pugilistic tribalist person that can never acknowledge when the opposition makes a good point? Or would you be reasonable and admit they had a point. I think you would be the latter because you are that pugilistic, stubborn and politically purist.

The communist party supports the Gender Critical position have said that themselves in their policies at the last GE. Was Germaine Greer a conservative? This. her comment all the way back in 1979. Or a leftist atheist way ahead of her time, who SAW what was coming? Is Germaine Greer a shill for Badenoch and Farage, too? Or are you just shallow thinking and small minded.

We are not saying we are going to vote for Farage. And if people are being pushed to vote for Farage, um, maybe, have a think what it is about the policies you support that are alienating women. It would never dawn on you would it, to do a bit of introspection? To wonder what you/the party/ies you support are doing wrong? Your thought process is puddle depth. There is no critical thinking there. None at all. Women don't go from voting Greens/Labour overnight to voting Farage.

Have a think about it. If you dare have the intellectual curiousity.

Don't try and walk it back. You called people Badenoch and Farage shills simply for defending womens hard won rights. You put people in the box of 'Badenoch/Farage Shills'. At least OWN what you said.

Well, quite.