Polanski is a buffoon

[Bertiebiscuit]

How anyone can take the Green party leader Zac Polanski seriously is completely beyond me. He has zero grasp of economics, beyond conning women out of ££££s by pretending he could hypnotise them to increase their bust measurements. He is the worst representative of gay men who worship the men pretending to be women, with no regard for womens and girls' right to privacy, dignity and safety. The man is a 24 carat buffoon.

We all have different priorities as is made pretty clear by this thread.

Also, go and question Polanski about the climate crisis, you’ll find it’s lower down his list of priorities than you would expect for the Green Party.

Their position on abortion rights is pretty much in line with the U.K. government. Please stop lying.

You may have missed them but many trans identifying males are pretty high up the privilege ladder (and the elite women who assist them) - they’ve got governments very keen to prioritise them.

As for their threat level to women, a trans identity definitely doesn’t make them less likely to harm women than any other man and according to the prison stats, far more likely to be sex offenders than normal men so…

If you aren't able to grasp that the rights of literally half of the population - the oppressed half, no less - are of fundamental importance to everything else, then you really, really need to have a think about your priorities.

Women's rights are not a 'nice to have' and they're not less important than other issues. And I am not the type of person who's stupid enough to allow themselves to be bent over and shafted just because it suits some men.

Women have been told to put their fight for their rights to one side for decades by men on the left, and it just won't wash.

As for the climate crisis, you need to give your head a wobble if you think that Polanski's the answer to this - he's advocating for policies that are detrimental to the environment. A Green politician, of all people! Focussing far more on what's going on thousands of miles away in Gaza than he is on what's going on in the country he professes to want to lead. You couldn't make it up.

Transwomen are men and actually pose a greater risk to women than men who identify as man (whatever identifying as a man means).

So you can be “sick of this shit” all you want but those of us in the real world are sick to the back teeth of men in dresses appropriating our sex, gaslighting us into telling them they’re one of us and being predators who demand access to our toilets, changing rooms, prisons and domestic violence shelters - all places that vulnerable women deserve to be away from men.

And yes women who assist predators - like you, basically telling a woman who doesn’t want men in female safe spaces to STFU - are another branch of evil we must watch out for

You keep mentioning this issue if the ECHR - are you aware if why many want this to happen? For years, it has been weaponised against us, especially Article 8, to prioritise the ‘rights’ of criminals to remain here with the ability to commit more crime against our citizens. In a number of cases they have.

I can’t remember the last time it was used to benefit any of us so it will be no great loss. We can have our own HR laws.

Withdrawal from the ECHR is now a mainstream view. Many on the left support it.

There is nothing in the ECHR that protects women’s rights any more than common or statute domestic law does. And we can strengthen domestic law in that respect if we want to.

You’re right, I was privileged to grow up in a world where this kind of lunacy didn’t exist.

This speaks for me and every woman I know 👏🏼

Everyone who grew up before about a decade ago was, but somehow we’re all expected to play along with something that’s quite obviously nonsense, misogynistic and harmful, and pretend it’s all true and has always been the case. And anyone who won’t is the devil incarnate.

A) nobody on Mumsnet has to convince you of anything, we are disagreeing with you not canvassing for your vote! B) it won't work anyway seeing as you appear to be a Farage/Badenoch shill!

This is what makes me laugh when people say things like “But after the Supreme Court ruling women who aren’t feminine will be kicked out of women’s loos because people will think they’re men”

The time before this trans nonsense became mainstream is very much within living memory.
We knew then what women looked like, even if they didn’t have nail varnish and flicky hair, and we will know it again.
Not to mention the obvious - transwomen don’t dress like other men, they dress as parodies of women.

And for all the absolute bollocks of “You’ve been sharing bathrooms with transwomen for years and never noticed” - well actually we did, hence why we’ve been campaigning against it. If all TW passed, we’d never have noticed the problem.

Indeed.

How do they pose more of a threat, that's some privileged existence you have had there if you are a woman and have come to that conclusion!

No it’s not “privileged” to recognise that an oppressive group poses a threat to an oppressed group which I am part of.

They pose more of a threat because “transwomen” are:

1. Men - I reckon you’d agree that men as a class pose threats to women as a class? If not you’d be pretty dim because facts don’t lie. 99% of sex crimes are committed by men, a group of which transwomen are part of, and overwhelmingly are committed against women.
2. Transwomen are hugely over represented in sex crime statistics

Can I ask - did you genuinely think that transwomen, who you know are men Magically just started posing the same (low-level) risks as women once they transitioned? That all that male privilege, that being part of the oppressive group, that being part of a group who’s track record of violence is frankly nothing short of an epidemic - just fell away once they decided they “feel like a woman”? And that from that moment, they were magically more oppressed than actual women?
Is that how you thought it worked?

A) nobody on Mumsnet has to convince you of anything, we are disagreeing with you not canvassing for your vote!

No they don't, but actually, people are berating posters on here for not voting in the approved way - and not just on this thread, but on others too. It was very prominent in the run up to the last general election, for example.

B) it won't work anyway seeing as you appear to be a Farage/Badenoch shill!

This is a really silly thing for you to write, given I posted at length to explain that I am a centre-left voter. Did you miss that post? Or is it the case that you can't engage with the issues, so just resort to lazy mud-flinging?

On an anonymous forum, I don't need to worry about what you or anyone thinks, so there's little point in lying about my voting inclinations.

As it happens, if I were a Tory voter, I would have no problem saying as much. It's not compulsory to vote on the left, and doesn't automatically make somebody an evil bigot, despite the shrieking you see from the left on social media. I can't stand Farage, or any of what he stands for, I think he's a cunt. But Badenoch is good on women's rights. I don't agree with most of her other stances, however.

I'm politically homeless right now, and have been for a while. I don't know why you think this is so impossible. Politics isn't football - we don't need to be brainlessly tribal about it, clinging on to rooting for 'our team' despite what they do. It is perfectly possible to engage brain in real time in response to political developments and adjust your stance.

"mainstream view" yeah good one, another one shilling for Farage! We don't all surround ourselves with Brexiters and their farrago of obvious propaganda!

Are you aware that we already have our own Human Rights law? The Human Right Act 1998?

Admittedly our current government has trouble following the law but I’m sure we can find a government who will follow the law at some point in the future.

And I’m REALLY fucking sick that I, as an ACTUAL women, who has experienced CSA by a man, rape by a man and sexual assault by a man, discrimination on some level malt days of my life because of my BIOLOGY, not identity (I don’t have an identity BTW because woman isn’t an identity - I just AM a woman) get told I’m “privileged” because <checks notes> some men say that them perpetuating depressing sexist stereotypes make them women and therefore more oppressed than me.

This misogynistic attitude will be looked back on with total shame and we will tell our grandchildren about the loons that thought people could change sex if they parodied stereotypes of the opposite sex enough. We will say “Yea it really did happen and we were told these men in dresses were worse off than we were”

It’s quite clear that the poster has the sum total of zero arguments beyond “I disagree with you and I am correct so you must be right wing”. Lazy is an understatement.

I think you need to look up the meaning of the word, "shill" as your response doesn't make any sense.

Don’t be, it’s just deliberate goading.

I wouldn’t piss on Farage if he’d been set alight by an asylum seeker.

Of course withdrawal from ECHR is mainstream. Just read about it.

Fully agree btw.