Dogs & Aeroplanes

[Keepingthepeace9]

Sorry folks, another thread about dogs & this time the question is do you agree with a recent suggestion the UK becomes similar to countries like France & America where small dogs can travel in the cabin with their owners.

Despite having absolutely nothing against dogs or their owners I can't begin to stress how much I disagree with this for countless reasons. This of course is with the exception of assistance dogs. Are you for or against the idea?
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Assuming quite a lot there, aren't we? No it wasn't a nasty airline, and I've never been to Benidorm in my life, and never will. It was a lovely city break, and actually the rude guy was very posh - he was just really rude with it. Or are you one of those who thinks that only the "little people" are capable of behaving badly? You've clearly never worked with professors. Some of the rudest people I've worked with.

Because peanut allergies cause anaphylaxis and people can die.

Dog allergies most frequently cause runny eyes and sneezing and no one dies

Any allergen cause anaphylaxis. Nuts, milk, dogs, bananas, tea... anything
Its not just nuts.

I didn't say it was just nuts. The PP mentioned specific examples of dogs and nuts so I was responding to their specific question.

There is a research article that looked at analyphylaxis from animals. Analyphylaxis was shown to occur very very rarely in response to bites only. None of the animal bites causing analyphylaxis were by dogs. Most were hamster/gerbil type things.

Actually, you can quite easily fly your dog to the other side of the world - it happens all the time 🤷‍♀️

Im allergic to cats, getting worse too so if it becomes commonplace they must have a mechanism to not have them on board, just like peanuts, after all, me eating a snickers bar is less likely to be airborne than cat fur.

Meh. A couple of mine are teeny and would fly very quietly in a crate at my feet. You wouldn’t know they were there. Others of mine? I wouldn’t let anywhere near an aircraft!
And honestly, if it’s allowed by an airline? Suck it up buttercup!
I would frankly rather never, ever fly again with a child within 40 feet of me within an aircraft. You cannot buy that, even in First Class. We all have to tolerate things we don’t like. You get sneezy and runny eyes from a dog? I get a headache and no sleep when your child whines the entire time. Tis life.

@loving24again your comment is extremely ignorant. My dog allergy is not just a runny nose and itchy eyes. It is flu like symptoms, sinus headaches, gastrointestinal symptoms and lasts for at least 48 hours after your prolonged exposure. A child is a person, they have the right to be on planes. A dog is cargo - it can go in the hold.

I absolutely don’t care. Unruly children ruin a flight for hundreds of people. My dogs (who have never flown by the way, this is purely conjecture) MIGHT make someone a bit ill? No, your needs don’t trump mine. Or anyone else’s. You can pick a dog free airline.
If the airline allows it? Pick a different airline sweetie. I WISH I had an option for pick a child free airline!

Wow you are the epitome of selfish dog owner - nobody else matters apart from you and your precious doggos. An extra bingo for hating on children too.

Nobody “needs” to take a dog anywhere quite frankly and yes the rights of people to not be made unwell do trump the whims of dog owners.

Or do you also think you should be allowed to eat nuts on planes and fuck anyone who might have an allergy?

Edit: sorry I quoted you by accident and don't know how to change it 😂

Ah, I see the classic 'I'd rather sit next to a dog than your child' crowd are here.
Children are human beings, FFS.
Anyway. I'm fine with this in cases where you absolutely must bring your dog abroad (such as moving country). I would find it ridiculous if all of a sudden everyone was bringing their pet abroad for a holiday. I don't know why you would want to travel with a pet unless absolutely necessary. I can't imagine its pleasant for an animal to be confined to a crate on a moving object surrounded by lots of smells and noises for hours on end (whether in the hold or in the cabin!)

I'd be happy to chat to a dog on my flight

Large dogs can have their own seats in America. I wouldn’t like loads of dogs barking on a plane but I’d love to bring mine, I always feel guilty leaving her. 🫣

Personally, I’d be very happy with this, but I don’t have any allergies. On the other hand, my nephew does and needs an épi-pen with him at all times, so my vote would be that human health comes first and dogs should not be in the cabin.

Not to detail the thread, but there isn't a single airline that has banned peanuts. A few have stopped serving them, but none can stop you from bringing and eating your own, or any foods that contain them. Saying that most, if not all airlines have banned them is completely wrong.

Apologies here. I meant to add they are banned if a passenger highlights a serious allergy, at least in the flights I've been on & rightly so.

I don’t know how the system works for declaring an allergy but I’ve been on several
flights in the last couple of years (in SE Asia) where bags of nuts were part of the snack handed out by the air stewards.

Dogs are already in the cabin on many flights across the world. Even on flights out of the UK with certain carriers.

Oh come on. Ultimately all everyone cares about is themselves and their desires and maybe their immediate family. So of course a dog owner is going prioritise their dog over your kids, just as you prioritise your kids over their dog. Hardly a shocking revelation that people want their own needs met over others is it? And no, for the record I don’t care about your kids or your nut allergy.

I was violently sick on a plane once, long haul overnight flight. Sod’s Law dictated the toilet was occupied at the precise time I needed it. I had no time to try to make it to another one.

Putting a dog on a plane to take it to the other side of the world is just selfish. Who are you doing it for? The dog? Or you?

I agree.

I worked in retail and cafes back off and on from 2000-2010 off and on. I sometimes think I’m glad things were different back then. I never had to worry about cleaning up dog crap, or getting unruly dogs under control as dogs weren’t allowed in the shops and cafes I worked in.

I was thinking of looking into a part time role at a local bookshop just for fun on top of my freelancing but I see so many dogs in there I’d rather not.

I used to be a baggage handler. I’d never put my dog in the bulk. They were shut in there for hours in the dark and cold, without water or food. Sometimes medicated, sometimes not. They’d cry when I tried to shut the doors.

I’d be over the moon to be sitting next to one though.

Dogs or cats on flights in Europe are rare. I don't think I had ever seen one on a flight.
As far as I know, there's a limited amount of dogs allowed on a flight.

It's really not a big deal, if you spontaneously combust when breathing the same air as a dog, just ask for another seat. You'll have time to start a thread about your ordeal before takeoff.

You guys really like to make a 8000er mountain out of the smallest molehill in the yard.