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Epstein files

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Shhhhitsmagic · 06/02/2026 12:54

I've had too much time on my hands this week due to illness and I've gone down a rabbit hole with the epstein files.
Is anyone else struggling after reading this vile stuff?
I'm absolutely reeling and feel physically sick to my core. The world I thought we lived in doesn't exist (and probably never did in my lifetime).
It appears that not one single man involved will be held accountable. They are all being protected and the whole thing is being brushed under the carpet.
Why is this barely being reported on? Where are the protests? Are we being desensitised to this evil?
Can anyone help me make sense of this? 😢

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Appalonia · 06/02/2026 19:17

I've been watching it on Twitter. Every day there's something more horrifying being exposed. I don't know why it's not front page news on every news outlet 24/7. I'm not going to repeat the allegations here, but my god, it feels like the conspiracy theorists were right, and that it looks like a worldwide network of depraved men who have conspired together to indulge their lusts, whilst regarding the populations as pp to be manipulated and controlled to benefit themselves.

I have no idea how we come back from this tbh.

Zippedydodah · 06/02/2026 19:20

Ateawholeboursininonego · 06/02/2026 19:12

I feel the same op, I’m intrigued to read more, but am realising it’s really starting to affect me and making me question men more and more. What if none of them are really decent? Would they all get away with it if they could? Why kids, it’s just heartbreaking how people could be so utterly evil

I have a very jaded view of men in general, and especially of men in positions of trust or power.

SmugglersHaunt · 06/02/2026 19:25

Not sure why, but one of the things that horrified me the most was the casual use of the word “pussy” - thrown around like it meant nothing. Vile, disgusting men. I would gladly see to all of them like vet with a pair of house bricks

Lubilu02 · 06/02/2026 19:27

I can't read anymore, I find it all too disturbing.

As someone who has been 'awake' for over a decade and saw things mentioned along these lines over the years, seeing it in black and white like this feels like a confirmation of the absolute evil in this world, and it's unnerving to think what happens next.

All we can do is pray for good, and drown out the evil. Thoughts and beliefs hold power and energy, I've come to really believe this.

EachotherAndAnother · 06/02/2026 19:29

Callurmom · 06/02/2026 19:22

Www.jmail.world

This link is blocked by Virgin Media on my phone for containing viruses. Hard to know who to trust; has someone set up a virus-ridden site to prey on people's curiosity about the files, or is Virgin Media blocking people's access to the files because they're in on it too?? 😵‍💫

Wheresrebeccabunch · 06/02/2026 19:29

TulipLavender · 06/02/2026 18:47

What I don't understand is why there is so little being discussed or reported on about Epstein basically working for CIA, Mossad and KGB. The whole thing stinks -it wasnt just a child rape trafficking but done for the purpose of bribery and power brokering. Its how power is wielded. It's absolutely horrifying how Palentir (amongst other tech giants etc) is owned and lobbied for by these pyschos and has multi million pound contracts collecting our health data on the NHS whilst also powering AI surveillance to support a genocide in Gaza. The future looks very bleak indeed in the hands of such an immoral elite. We are entering dark days of AI surveillance and elite control of everything. Whilst Prince Andrew's conduct is putrid is feels like a distraction from what they are really doing.

Yes this. People are missing the point if they’re just focusing on the (disgusting) individuals concerned. The evidence suggests this system was being run by a very powerful state for blackmail and power purposes, a state that basically owns the media, effectively controls the US and apparently can get away with genocide.

All the people who have tried to speak out have been silenced, branded unhinged, prejudiced and ironically accused of pedophilia. The ‘conspiracy’ theorists were right, unfortunately.

Marmalademorning · 06/02/2026 19:30

All the people up in arms over the Epstein files (which are horrific, I’m not denying that) - but do you feel the same outrage over the grooming gangs? Which affected many more children, up and down the country. Where is the outrage about that?

Sidebeforeself · 06/02/2026 19:32

CanalLetty · 06/02/2026 14:37

"Only one person in prison and that's a woman doing a 20 year sentence, carrying the can."

This is an astonishing fact that says it all.

Edited

Well she’s serving a sentence for her own crimes. Let’s not imply she has any degree of innocence. But yes..where are the men in prison?

SmugglersHaunt · 06/02/2026 19:32

Marmalademorning · 06/02/2026 19:30

All the people up in arms over the Epstein files (which are horrific, I’m not denying that) - but do you feel the same outrage over the grooming gangs? Which affected many more children, up and down the country. Where is the outrage about that?

Quite.

Crispychillifriedbeef · 06/02/2026 19:35

I always thought that David Icke was onto something!

And relieved to see that Rufus Sewell isn’t mentioned.

Beginning to think that pretty much every “A lister”, most politicians and royalty are involved and every billionaire.

Flamingojune · 06/02/2026 19:36

Where does one find the definitive list

Appalonia · 06/02/2026 19:41

And NO, it's not being reported in MSM. Yes, were hearing about Andrew and Mandelson, but the actual details of what's being exposed in the emails isn't . There's been 3'million pages dumped, so that's a huge amount to go through and of course it will take time and thankfully, there's a lot of pp who are taking the time to go through it, but so far we've had references to torture, murder, trafficking, transing children, eugenics, how to deal with the problem of poor people, and the last thing I saw, how to engineer an STI which will increase women's libido. And so many pp, Harvard intellectuals, business owners, politicians, pp like Woody Allen, Deepak Chopra. It will all come out in the end, but it feels so much darker and more depraved than any of us could have ever imagined...

Ialwaysthoughtitwasadojo · 06/02/2026 19:41

HoskinsChoice · 06/02/2026 13:09

Barely being reported on? It is literally headline news on every news outlet and has been for weeks!

That said, there is something very odd going on. Why is Andrew the only one anyone is going after - the family, the media, the lawyers, the public - why is it only him? Guiffre was trafficked to hundreds of men. Why are we only talking about AMW? There are many, many considerably easier targets than AMW (he is surrounded by legal and financial protection that most aren't). And also many who have done considerably worse than AMW (some of the girls were children - only women above the age of consent in the UK have named AMW). Why are we wasting so much time on AMW and not prosecuting and publicly shaming the literally hundreds of other men involved.

It is headline news but so much is redacted it’s hard to hold people to account. There were People who know exactly what went on. There is more evidence and there are hundreds of witnesses, and…. Nothing.

Callurmom · 06/02/2026 19:42

Marmalademorning · 06/02/2026 19:30

All the people up in arms over the Epstein files (which are horrific, I’m not denying that) - but do you feel the same outrage over the grooming gangs? Which affected many more children, up and down the country. Where is the outrage about that?

Did a new crimes list just drop about the grooming scandal? No then stfu. Why do you think people are talking about the Epstein files? The president of the USA is a potential pedophile and you somehow want to say look over there…
Look at the files they are taking about murder, cannibalism and child torture on a grand scale.

Appalonia · 06/02/2026 19:43

Marmalademorning · 06/02/2026 19:30

All the people up in arms over the Epstein files (which are horrific, I’m not denying that) - but do you feel the same outrage over the grooming gangs? Which affected many more children, up and down the country. Where is the outrage about that?

I think it's possible to feel outraged about both at the same time tbh. It's just male violence against vulnerable women, whatever form it takes.

girlabouthome · 06/02/2026 19:49

Lubilu02 · 06/02/2026 19:27

I can't read anymore, I find it all too disturbing.

As someone who has been 'awake' for over a decade and saw things mentioned along these lines over the years, seeing it in black and white like this feels like a confirmation of the absolute evil in this world, and it's unnerving to think what happens next.

All we can do is pray for good, and drown out the evil. Thoughts and beliefs hold power and energy, I've come to really believe this.

Edited

Same here.

Ive removed my social apps as I was suffering from reading it.

With the Satanic themes, I wonder how many will turn to faith in light of this…

Wheresrebeccabunch · 06/02/2026 19:49

Callurmom · 06/02/2026 19:42

Did a new crimes list just drop about the grooming scandal? No then stfu. Why do you think people are talking about the Epstein files? The president of the USA is a potential pedophile and you somehow want to say look over there…
Look at the files they are taking about murder, cannibalism and child torture on a grand scale.

Exactly. It’s really odd that some people only seem to care about women and children when they think perpetrators of the violence might be Muslim.

Decent human beings care about all victims. This latest scandal involves some of the most powerful people in our society. Of course we’re talking about it.

cobrakaieaglefang · 06/02/2026 19:54

Maybe conspiracy theorists chatting about Hollywood/ Disney/ elite paedophile rings murdering up to hundreds of thousands of children aren't as barmy as they sound. Although the 'remains are pushed into food chain to get rid of evidence' could be pushing it, although at this point just about anything is possible, I'm getting to the point of wondering just how evil these people could be and what will eventually will be exposed.

Whatever the truth is its vile and those involved deserve to be exposed.

Sidebeforeself · 06/02/2026 19:58

girlabouthome · 06/02/2026 19:49

Same here.

Ive removed my social apps as I was suffering from reading it.

With the Satanic themes, I wonder how many will turn to faith in light of this…

Or turn away from faith …thinking if there is a God why does he let people do this?

Wheresrebeccabunch · 06/02/2026 20:00

girlabouthome · 06/02/2026 19:49

Same here.

Ive removed my social apps as I was suffering from reading it.

With the Satanic themes, I wonder how many will turn to faith in light of this…

I doubt it. With all the blood sacrifice mentions in the Abrahamic religions, the ongoing suppression of women, the fact there isn’t a single book in the Bible written by a woman, and the fact that most of the evil men in this Epstein scandal presented themselves as Christians I think organised religion would be the last place to turn.

Isnt there a story in the Old Testament about god asking Abraham to kill his son as a blood sacrifice, only to change his mind at the last minute?

And didn’t Lot sleep with his own daughters?

I don’t think organised religion is the answer here.

Appalonia · 06/02/2026 20:03

It also reminds me of things that came out after the Diddy case. There was one young woman who claimed to have been trafficked and was at his freak out parties. The similarities are striking. There's no way of knowing how much of it is true, but at this point, who knows?

AutumnAllTheWay · 06/02/2026 20:06

HoskinsChoice · 06/02/2026 13:09

Barely being reported on? It is literally headline news on every news outlet and has been for weeks!

That said, there is something very odd going on. Why is Andrew the only one anyone is going after - the family, the media, the lawyers, the public - why is it only him? Guiffre was trafficked to hundreds of men. Why are we only talking about AMW? There are many, many considerably easier targets than AMW (he is surrounded by legal and financial protection that most aren't). And also many who have done considerably worse than AMW (some of the girls were children - only women above the age of consent in the UK have named AMW). Why are we wasting so much time on AMW and not prosecuting and publicly shaming the literally hundreds of other men involved.

Bloody well said

MabelMoo23 · 06/02/2026 20:16

Some of the videos / images are utterly horirifc - I feel sick.

its making me want to delete apps as well. Utterly horrific but it all needs to be unredacted. We need to burn these fuckers to the ground

but it’ll never happen because Trumps owns the FBI and DOJ and he’s in the files

AutumnAllTheWay · 06/02/2026 20:22

Wheresrebeccabunch · 06/02/2026 19:29

Yes this. People are missing the point if they’re just focusing on the (disgusting) individuals concerned. The evidence suggests this system was being run by a very powerful state for blackmail and power purposes, a state that basically owns the media, effectively controls the US and apparently can get away with genocide.

All the people who have tried to speak out have been silenced, branded unhinged, prejudiced and ironically accused of pedophilia. The ‘conspiracy’ theorists were right, unfortunately.

This is so well worded, and I suspect, true