...to think Angela Rayner needs to wind her neck in?

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Why is a FORMER deputy, who was binned in disgrace for being VERY NAUGHTY potentially in line to oust Keir Starmer as big boss?

I'd have sacked her completely, not just as deputy leader, for her prior misconduct. Surely the Labour party can't support ousting their leader and replacing him with a proven wrong'un? Is there nobody else decent? Has she no shame?

Fucking snakes, the lot of them. I thought we'd seen the back of that sort of barefaced bullshit with the downfall of boris.

Completely agree, she's got a brass neck if she does think the public want her as the next prime minister.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5486656-angela-raynor-being-talked-about-as-possible-leader-surely-not

just linking another thread because it’s up
and running, I’m not being the thread police, promise!

Thanks, I've just found and read that myself - hadn't spotted it before! Despite doom scrolling for ages 🤣

The Labour Party (politics in general actually) is full of dodgy, greedy, grifters. Where would they find someone clean?

Once again the actual work of running the country, is sidelined by internal squabbles.

All of the political parties increasingly appear a bit like cults, with ‘the party’, its leaders and the purity of their ideologies being more important than their actual function of running the country…

Lammy is Deputy PM is that any better? Rayner has no shame. Who would you prefer out of that sorry lot?

There is no way that that grifter will become PM. I'd actually rather have Lammy.

Ok, I’ll swim against the tide.
I like Angela Rayner. I like her politics and I admire her as a working class woman who has battled her way up.
I want politicians who understand what real life is like for the majority of people, not Eton elites.
I think the issue with her tax has been overblown, many people have not fully grasped the complex circumstances and have simply decided it must be part of the widespread tax dodging we had become accustomed to, most particularly from the tory party and from the super rich in general.
I also think the old boys network and men in general delight at being able to squash someone who is not part of their club and there has therefore been huge power pitted against her.

I’m mourning the loss of Andy burnham. Ridiculous own gial.

The trouble is that Rayner is to the left of the labour party. She has come through the union movement and is indoctrinated with that capitalism is bad mentally and distain to anyone who thinks differently... remember her Tory Scum comment. Then she buys an expensive house that she didn't really need and fails to get proper tax advice.

So we could end up with a pm who is too stupid to get proper advice, hated by the opposition who won't work with her, be completely anti any from of capitalism so increasing the tax burden, I believe she's in favour of nationalisation and we know how well that worked last time.

Buys an expensive house that she didn’t really need?
Are you aware of the complex situation with her disabled son and the trust set up for him?
This wasn’t your bog standard heated stables and duck house scenario.

I think people deliberately have very short term memories about the scandal after scandal we put up with from the Tories on back handed deals and slimy actions, but lose their minds over this because - one can only assume - AR is left wing, female, was a teenage mum and is therefore the right sort of person to target for this behaviour that wouldn't even have made the news if she was just another Tory "playing the game".

People need to read outside of the Daily Mail.

I have a short term memory of her getting caught tax dodging to the tune of £40k. You and I would be banged up for that.

Irrespective of party, I'd sack and shame and ban from office anyone doing similar. I'm even more appalled that some seem to think Boris is somebody to look up to.

Being a left wing female teenage mum is not remotely relevant to me. I know and have known plenty. Probably was as a campaigning tactic though, for her and the party...and look where it's got her! 800k flat as a second home in a coastal town anybody? Verrrr socialist daaahling, champers anybody? 😁

I'm with sweetiedarling7
She was ADVISED to do that transaction by her financial advisor.
Then taken apart for it by the media, despite the fact the Tory financial violations (or Jeremy Hunt) were much worse.

She is a working class real woman, not a spoilt elite public school Tory-boy, and the papers took her down unfairly.
I think she has great leadership skill and was bullied out.

No, she wouldn't be the right person. I can see her losing her rag, and Kemi making mincemeat of her. I like AR but I don't think she has the intelligence and judgement for the top job.

So all this speculation, trying to find the right fit - it's just like Strictly, isn't it? What about Angela Scanlon for PM and Angela Raynor doing Tess's job? (Please not Rylan in either.)

Surely the point is that Labour promised to be different. They were to be trusted. They have proved they are not. This is the huge problem. We don’t want a churn of leaders and inflated egos. Rayner is too far left and the public are suspicious of that - she might be ok in old Labour seats, but she’s not loved in other areas. She is divisive.

As for Burnham - King of Manchester. Neither are serious leaders on a world stage. They are, in effect, local politicians. They are not going to bring the country together. Labour does have the overall problem of lack of talent.

Of course she should wind her neck in, she’s a working class origins northern woman - how very dare she even breathe

Im a working class hard working woman as are millions of others in the country. We don’t dodge tax and lie about it twice.

she’s paid from the public purse, elected to represent the people of this country. She should be held to account. She should have been sacked on the spot. Any other public servant would have been - it’s stealing

these clowns should be working hard improve our lives and putting the people who put them there first not their own self interests and hunger for power

I voted for this shower of shit and I’m embarrassed to admit it. My alternative was SNP and look at the mess and corruption among these arseholes

I’m also a northern woman with working class origins and in the great scheme of things( sad that needs saying) what she did was hardly a hanging offence. I wish and hadn’t, of course I do, but the reaction to her is always OTT imo

Or Farage’s violations. Nobody seems to mind about those. and they seem to be repeated and involve larger sums of money.

Raynor got hung out to dry by the media because she’s a Labour northern woman. If she’d been a Tory white male they’d have ignored the story. It might be different when the HMRC finish the investigation if they find that she was guilty of deliberate wrongdoing. As far as I’m aware the only thing she is guilty of at the moment is not getting better advice on a complicated tax situation.

She lost her job as deputy PM while it’s being investigated and rightly so. But she was never likely to stay out for long if the HMRC exonerate her. Her political instincts are way too good for that. Unlike Starmer’s which are non existent.

you can’t be surprised by this

all the nonsense Starmer said after she resigned he knew she would stab in in the back as soon as she could, keep your friends close and enemies closer is very true in politics

Rayner will go for leadership at some point it’s just come sooner than expected

I have a lot of respect for the woman, but next prime minister she is not.

I cannot believe the grief Starmer is getting over this and Farage is getting none when he’s in the actual files.

So you think that the privatisation of the previously nationalised water companies has been a complete success? Nothing spent on infrastructure and all the profits going to shareholders who fund absolutely nothing so the consumers pay through increased bills?

You are indoctrinated to believe that capitalism is always good when there is a massive amount of evidence that this isn't the case.

The difference is though that she was deputy prime minister. I understand what you’re saying I really do. As a business owner who battles on a daily basis to always do the right thing, this really stuck in my throat

they offered no help to keep us afloat,
the don’t give a shit about the cost of living prices. Utility bills are horrendous, we don’t even get our bins emptied but have to pay high rates.

she bangs on about fair pay, thinks that making people more benefit reliant is the answer.

instead of paying benefit to top us wages, why not give financial support to businesses under a certain threshold which would
allow us to pay more and foster a work ethic.

they don’t want people doing well they want us state dependent so that they maintain control

It is very important that we keep the pressure and focus on the people who gave jobs to someone in the files and not the people who are actually in the files.