...to think Angela Rayner needs to wind her neck in?

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Why is a FORMER deputy, who was binned in disgrace for being VERY NAUGHTY potentially in line to oust Keir Starmer as big boss?

I'd have sacked her completely, not just as deputy leader, for her prior misconduct. Surely the Labour party can't support ousting their leader and replacing him with a proven wrong'un? Is there nobody else decent? Has she no shame?

Fucking snakes, the lot of them. I thought we'd seen the back of that sort of barefaced bullshit with the downfall of boris.

This thread is awful. I know Angela well and like her a lot.
What’s up ladies? Did the teenager mum get above her station - and achieve much more than you could ever hope to? lol.

Not convinced Rayner can be the next PM.

Her politics are a lot different I think from Starmers, so the argument that she has no mandate has that much more weight.

The problem is great candidates aren't exactly queuing up.

I agree!

You have missed out the part where she was advised TWICE to gain further advice from a tax expert. She choose not to, maybe she didn't want to pay out for this who knows, but given her situation is complex and that she herself has very much built her career and reputation of rightly called out MP's and wealthy people who do not pay the correct tax/use tax schemes to their advantage she choose not to follow advice where she may of ended up paying more herself.

Of course the press called her out, we know she has been targeted by certain areas of the press but in this case she was a gift to the right wing press. She was rightly called out for hypocrisy

No doubt she will run for leadership, and no doubt once again the left of the Labour party will do their best to keep Labour back in opposition. Same old story they never learn

She is absolutely not PM material, hard working and ambitious yes, can hold her self in a debate or under scrutiny no. Being a northern working class woman has helped her rise in politics not held her back, she rose through the ranks very quickly when there are far more competent MP's around

Fully agree

She hides her good qualities well then. She seems to have been promoted well past her level of incompetence, probably to keep the far left unionists on side rather than her grasp of current issues and political skill.

As for your dig at the achievements of the rest of us - I have managed to get through life paying my taxes on time in full (not dodging it twice) , not been found to be a raging hypocrite, not using my powerful voice to support the decimation of women’s rights and have never called my work colleagues ’scum’, or been photographed vaping in my keks in a rubber dinghy.

In your opinion. I’ll base mine in the reality of what I see and know.

give us a shout when you’re deputy prime minister.

@Sweetiedarling7 The great difficulty with politicians isn’t what you describe. The big problem is they absolutely understand noisy constituents. They bow to them far too much.

What they do not understand is what to do about the issues they see other than expect more taxes to be paid. They don’t understand basic economics and certainly don’t understand how to run a company. They only listen to their own types and simply don’t have the intelligence to come up with the necessary policies. Rayner had some ideas about left wing policies which went against employers. They had to change but she didn’t see that in the first place. Therefore, she would be useless as PM. No critical thinking. Just noisy rhetoric! Not good enough to lead.

But didn't he live in the north west and her and her husband live there alternatively...plus that house is in her constituency. The FLAT she bought was in hove, Sussex. Plus she had a house in London provided by us the tax payers.

Plus she kept the house in the north west as her registered address for council tax, elections etc

So yeah she didn't need a £800k flat miles from where she works

And British Leyland and British Rail and British Steel and Network Rail were/are such a success story

Maybe ask your good friend about the £40,000 she evaded and still owes in taxes. Signed, a “teenager mum” who had high hopes for Angela.

This would be so insanely undemocratic if the Labour party install her as leader and PM. Nobody votes for his. She will undoubtedly push the whole party to the left which again is completely undemocratic when we know that public sentiment has actually shifted towards the right if anything.

I somewhat agree, however, it’s telling that not a single news story at the time raised this as an issue about appointing him. Mandelson was problematic, sure, but if we are all only now hearing about the financial issues, is it fair to suggest Starmer could have known about them?

That’s not correct. Jim Pickard from the FT raised the Epstein connection with Starmer before the appointment. Starmer dismissed the issue and told his own party members who raised concerns to shut up.

Someone start another political party and stop this corrupt, inept, greedy, lot, from all parties, from stuffing up the UK! They all fail to care for those they are meant to serve, as they are far too focused on power and their own profit.

Unfortunately it seems corruption is King right now. When politicians broke the rules in the past and were found out they resigned. These days there seems to be no accountability. She isn’t fit to lead and should have been sacked.

I hope people tread carefully here. I don’t think another GE right now where Reform get in is what we need….a British Trump! Where have all the decent leaders gone?

I think she was unfairly treated by the press, she may well have not bothered, not thought about it, thought she would get away with it - whatever - many politicians have done worse and lasted.

However much I admire her drive and success, I don’t think she is what we need right now and I don’t think calling for a GE and reform getting their greedy hands involved on the prize is a good idea.

it pains me to say that I think with the current state of world politics we need either a super sharp, no nonsense woman (AR does show her emotions on her sleeve - this is not a criticism) who will shut the current world leaders down, or a man that they won’t fuck with because our current roll of male leaders around the world are unpleasant and egotistical.

Looking around the room on all sides I don’t hold out much hope.

If say to AR, hold back, come on strong at the next break point not right now, the chalice is poisoned so pass it on.

Oh dear God, please no!

The woman is inarticulate, doesn't have a single academic qualification to her name and was promoted purely to assuage the hard Left unionists.

(If you're reading by putting your finger under each word no doubt Angela, then assuage means 'to appease').

No it's because after years of carping from the other side of the house about Tory Sleaze and winning the election promising to clean up politics, they have been exposed as just as bad and hypocrites into the bargain.
Nothing to do with being a woman, Northern or working class but everything to do with being a hypocrite.
Can you honestly say you would be absolutely fine with Boris Johnson appointing someone with Mandelson's background who ended up leaking Government information to a paedophile?
If you would be, fine. If not, you're a hypocrite too.

Gets my vote!

I mean capitalism isn’t proving very fucking effective for anyone other than the rich elite right now is it?!

At least she has some balls! Way more than Starmar

She is the favourite to be next PM according to oddschecker.
Followed by Wes Streeting and Ed fucking milliband.

Actually, yes that's true. I suspect that when Starmer walks into a room it immediately feels emptier.