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...to think Angela Rayner needs to wind her neck in?

156 replies

Damnloginpopup · 06/02/2026 08:22

Why is a FORMER deputy, who was binned in disgrace for being VERY NAUGHTY potentially in line to oust Keir Starmer as big boss?

I'd have sacked her completely, not just as deputy leader, for her prior misconduct. Surely the Labour party can't support ousting their leader and replacing him with a proven wrong'un? Is there nobody else decent? Has she no shame?

Fucking snakes, the lot of them. I thought we'd seen the back of that sort of barefaced bullshit with the downfall of boris.

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Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 13/05/2026 17:23

She is coming under scrutiny not because she is left wing, a woman, a teenage mum or anything else in her life outside politics. She is coming under scrutiny because she is a politician, has done things that ordinary people wouldn’t get away with and has aspirations to be Prime Minister.
It is quite right that we should be looking at the integrity if someone who may one day lead the country.

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 13/05/2026 17:26

LakieLady · 07/02/2026 09:30

I agree.

To even get selected as a candidate is a hell of an achievement for a working class woman who left school at 16 and was a single parent not long afterwards. And that makes a lot of men in politics feel threatened.

And the issue with the stamp duty on her home isn't a big deal imo and I'm mystified as to why whoever did her conveyancing didn't check it out properly.

I was always under the impression that a property held in trust for another person (which hers is) doesn't count as yours. It certainly doesn't when it comes to means-tested benefits, and I don't get why stamp duty treats it any differently. If I had a disabled child whose home I wanted to protect, I'd probably do the same.

The £30k underpayment is small change compared to the amount of inheritance tax rich people avoid by putting their estates into family trusts, like the Drax family, who are estimated to own land worth £150m before you even start looking at other assets. I don't recall anyone kicking off about that when Richard Drax was an MP.

I’ll try that one the next time I buy a house “The issue of my stamp duty is not a big deal”

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 13/05/2026 17:28

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 13/05/2026 17:26

I’ll try that one the next time I buy a house “The issue of my stamp duty is not a big deal”

There is a difference between tax avoidance which is legal and tax evasion which is not. Any politician worth her salt would have made darned sure she knew the difference.

Nonjenregretterien · 14/05/2026 07:37

The issue for Labour and Raynor is that if you want to increase spending but aren’t willing to pay tax then you are a hypocrite especially if you increase tax for everyone else.

Louise Haigh is another one who needs to wind her neck in. Fraud is not a good look for politicians and denying it and saying she didn’t know what she was doing when she pleaded guilty doesn’t inspire confidence in her critical thinking facilities.

Labour needs a leadership competition like we need a hole in our head. Incremental change is better than No government.

Thanks to Catherine West we will have Farage as PM next election talk about shooting the party in the foot and ineptness. I hope she is happy now

JustSomeWaferThinHam · 14/05/2026 13:39

Nonjenregretterien · 14/05/2026 07:37

The issue for Labour and Raynor is that if you want to increase spending but aren’t willing to pay tax then you are a hypocrite especially if you increase tax for everyone else.

Louise Haigh is another one who needs to wind her neck in. Fraud is not a good look for politicians and denying it and saying she didn’t know what she was doing when she pleaded guilty doesn’t inspire confidence in her critical thinking facilities.

Labour needs a leadership competition like we need a hole in our head. Incremental change is better than No government.

Thanks to Catherine West we will have Farage as PM next election talk about shooting the party in the foot and ineptness. I hope she is happy now

Yes.

It is so incredibly convenient that Rayner has just apparently been exonerated by HMRC - what were the odds of that timing being so perfect? If I had any faith in the Civil Service not to be stuffed with political activists, I’d be a bit less suspicious. But I don’t.

UltraHorse · 14/05/2026 13:58

Starmer appointed Mandelson even though he didn't pass vetting and Starmer looked so happy about it at the time looks like very poor judgement from Starmer and Angela Raynor can break rules other people would be in a lot of bother if they broke I'm working class but labour don't appeal at all not even with a different leader No labour councilors knocked on any doors where I live or have done any surveys of public opinion unlike reform They seem to presume voters are stupid

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