Keir starmer is dead in the water

[Bertiebiscuit]

The UK cannot have a prime minister who gave a plum job to a man when all the time he knew that Mandelson was still close friends with an ex-con who was convicted for trafficking children for sexual abuse. Starmer is destroying the reputation of the UK, he is an embarrassment and shoukd resign, if not the Labour party should demand his resignation.

Second person I've asked.

Can you please name anything this government has done that has been to the benefit of multinational corporations and billionaires?

Who the Feck would we get instead through?

You certainly are.:D

Now you are just a country full of contributors and people who love the place, speak its language, observe its cultural and historical practices, and work hard to keep it afloat

Oh wait...

It does say a lot about the Labour party if people can't think of anyone else in the party who would be suitable. None of the other 400 other people have better judgement than the man who made the change to appoint a political to US ambassador and personally chose a peados mate?

@Gobacktotheworld2

Ok, I will respond to your goady post. Like you, I am foreign born and married British. Members of my family pay expensive visa fees and the nhs surcharge. I have lived in poor and rich countries, mostly as a fairly privileged person. I would have a much higher standard of living in those poor countries, no doubt about it. But I am also aware of what life is like for the poor in those places, where mothers leave their children so they can fund their families, where the cost of medical treatment means many people die or suffer unnecessarily and where being born into poverty can be a life sentence.

I personally think the cost of welfare and benefits in the UK is too high and unsustainable, and there is a need for urgent change, but I am bloody proud of the commitment the British public has had to supporting the less fortunate. These are my values too. So rather than slag off this country, I will stay, support it, build a future here for my family.

Perhaps you can explain why wealth is travelling in one direction.

Larry Fink and Bill Gates are not having lunch at Downing Street to discuss how to rebuild Britain. They are there to see how they can profit.

Well done. I'm sure you'll get head pats from some on here for sucking it up and for being the right sort of foreigner (well, until Britain gets its own version of ICE. Then it won't matter). But there are much nicer places to live in the world and you only live once. I'm done with such a high cost of living for such a low standard, but you keep funding that corrupt lot if you want.

When Starmer made the "just Peter" speech, I said that it would bite him in the bum.

Which beautiful country are you in now where life is so equitable and inclusive?

KS's defence of "PM lied to me" is pathetic. PM is known as 'The Prince of Darkness' and every politician knows the measure of the man.
KS chose him to be ambassador precisely because PM is cut from the same cloth as Trump.
There are probably scores of other people who could have been appointed but Starmer chose Mandelson. There is no getting away from that: Starmer chose him in preference over anybody else. Poor judgement. Again.

I mean he's a crap PM - but this is who people wanted and voted for so...im sure he'll cling on for a while - not sure there is anyone good to replace the idiot anyway...

‘He lied to me’ makes him sound pathetic. What vetting is that lame. And his connection was known, he stayed at Epstein’s apartment.

Yes Bill Gates is currently spending billions on philanthropic work.

He h has just applied for a licence to build the first commercial fusion reactor in Tennessee. Fusion power will bring limitless amounts of carbon free power to the world and the developers have all committed to sharing the knowledge of how to do it with the world for free.

I hope he's there to talk about something like that with Starmer.

Meanwhile can you answer my question instead of fielding it with one of your own?

I think it would be crazy for our PM to lose his job when the president of the US who was actually involved with Epstein continues to go about his business.

I believe Starmer certainly wasn't as in the dark about Mandelson as he's letting on. This whole thing is disgusting and it blows my mind that it could go on in this day and age and with trusted public figures, however. The UK seem to be paying a higher price than others internationally. Then again, I guess maybe we should set an example. Although, these top men only care about saving their own skin so they wouldn't care less anyway.

I want to know why no arrests have been made? One rule for them and all that...

One where my family can live together, and we make good wine.🍷 All I give a fuck about.

To return to my original point though, why the fuck does anyone think Starmer is trashing your country's reputation? Why do you imagine your reputation is so great

Clearly the poor desperate bastards braving la Manche in small boats think it's a Shangri-la... until they get there. But your average Fijian or Australian or Japanese or Singaporean, do you believe they admire your country and wish they lived there?

Could Mandelson also have been working with Israel, considering his close friendship with Epstein who had personal, social and business ties with Israel?

this. As Shabana Mahmoud said to Laura Kuensberg

"Well Labour governments don't come along very often"

I bet she wishes she had phrased it better but it was a live interview just before she went off to chair the "Put Andy Burnham back on his box" committee

Dog Whistle Powell? God,might as well book the movers for Nigel now!!

OMG, maybe put that wine glass down. There is a way of making a point and your posts aren't it

Circling the wagons is a reference to the defensive manouvre of arranging the wagons of a wagon train in a circle in preparation to defend them against attack. Generally in the American west - settlers versus natives.

Presuming you don't mean AR is preparing to defend KS then she's not circling the wagon. She may be circling like a predator around wounded prey but there isn't a wagon involved.

This isn't meant to be snarky, I know old wild west movies aren't a staple of British TV any longer so many people won't be familiar with the concept.

He probably wouldn’t say anything. They know its wrong and thats why they hide it.

More political instability is the last thing we need.

But he wasn’t ignorant at the time he appointed Mandy.

Mandy’s had a dodgy reputation since the 90s: ‘Prince of Darkness’ etc. Starmer knew Mandy was in touch with Epstein after his paedophile conviction when he appointed him. He chose to appoint someone as ambassador to a country who’d fraternised with a notorious, convicted paedophile from that country. Without any apparent concern for the survivors, who were bravely campaigning in that country for justice, at great cost to themselves and their families.

Violence against women and girls? Meh? Way down the priority list.

Why? Was it because he knew Mandy’d blow smoke up Trump’s arse and get us some trade deals? Did that come ahead of concern for the survivors - and (by impression) all survivors of VAWG?

Don’t believe people who tell you they’re feminists. Instead observe their actions.

Mandy has been known as a wrong’un since at least the 90s, the press are being awfully coy about him now. One thing we can be sure he isn’t interested in is anyone female. That’s something at least.

In my experience most people who claim they are feminists are anything but and that includes women.

@SeriousFaffing Never a truer word typed imo !