Keir starmer is dead in the water

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The UK cannot have a prime minister who gave a plum job to a man when all the time he knew that Mandelson was still close friends with an ex-con who was convicted for trafficking children for sexual abuse. Starmer is destroying the reputation of the UK, he is an embarrassment and shoukd resign, if not the Labour party should demand his resignation.

Powell!

Jesus, is that what it has come to?

You do know Starmer was a signed up Trotskyist, do you?

They pretend to be central to get voted into the power to turn the country socialist.

Except Blair, he was a genuine Conservative.

Is be interested to know what you think this goverment has done that serves lobbyists (except green ones) and billionaires.

So for you knowingly appointing someone who was close enough friends to stay in their flat whilst they were in prison for being on of the most prolific sex offenders ever is OK. But if he had know about insider trading bit that should have been the cut off. So the limit must be moral support for paedophiles is ok but financial support isn't?

Starmer has dug himself into a whole. He fired Mandelson because of his ties with Epstein but went on the record yesterday of saying he already knew about those ties when he appointed him.

He is dead in the water. The Labour MPs voted yesterday to support the Tories in requesting the public release of the file and that they would rather trust a Cross Bench Committee to review the release than their own Government. That is pretty damming

Not sure about that because it’s not just a scandal, which is major enough, it’s his authority in the house. He will struggle after stating so clearly ISC should not be used and then overruled by his own MPs. Plus he gushed over McSweeney in a rare honesty so he can’t go.

Next week he’ll stand up and Kemi can easily make better mince meat of that.

The one thing that gives him time is Rayner’s tax issue, but she’s definitely getting her support together in the background.

It will eventually be interesting to see what Epstein and Maxwell had on Mandelson. If Someone else had a prediction for Very Young Girls, what was his prediction? Or perhaps it was Epstein he was drawn to.

If you hadn't realised it already, Labour don't respect women, and don't care if our daughters are abused.

Sorry this made me laugh. Politics attracts men who want to abuse their power, regardless of which party. Here is a quick Google AI search of Tory sexual abusers of women:

• Charlie Elphicke: Convicted in 2020 of sexually assaulting two women and sentenced to two years in prison.
• Chris Pincher: Resigned as deputy chief whip following allegations of sexually harassing men at the Carlton Club.
• Damian Green: Resigned in 2017 after accusations of acting inappropriately towards a Conservative activist.
• Rob Roberts: Found to have made repeated, unwanted sexual advances towards an employee.
• Neil Parish: Resigned after admitting to watching pornography on his phone while in the House of Commons chamber.

Additionally, reports in 2017 indicated a list, often referred to as a "spreadsheet," circulating with the names of approximately 40 Conservative MPs and ministers accused of various forms of inappropriate or sexual misconduct.

Aw, nice diss, but your Home Office and HMRC seemed quite keen for us to keep paying obscene visa fees, NHS fees and taxes for the privilege of funding your many Mandelsons, Royal family, failing NHS, BBC, crummy transport system, leaking water pipes, asylum hotels, schools which have given up pretending to educate, non-existent levels of policing in our own crime-ridden spot and, oh, the whole sorry shebang.

My family finally left your godforsaken country last year and you simply could not pay me enough money to set foot there again. My English DH certainly isn't renewing his UK passport again, either

It's amazing watching Tory voters and Labour voters tearing each other to shreds on here. Like the most pestilential rats vying for the filthiest spot on the stinkiest shitheap at the dump.

Also to add the press have been constantly dropping negative stories since day 1 on the government. That's not to say they've got everything right but the constant daily drip feed of negative shit stirring by the right wing rags is what they are up against and the impact of 14yrs of the tories is never mentioned.

Alistair Campbell said on TRIP when Mandy was removed as Ambassador, and again this week, that he (Mandy) was drawn to m/had a weakness for rich/powerful men.

There were, as I see it, 3 types of people (mostly men) who were keen to be associated with Epstein:

1. Those who wanted access to young girls/trafficked women - ie Andrew M-B
2. Those who wanted access to his money and influence - ie Mandy, Bannon, etc
3. The wealthy who wanted to be part of the “in crowd” and access to parties, etc - ie Musk

Just possibly Raynor could have a chance if she doesn't get a fine from HMRC but surely she will get a fine.

Could we even believe her if she said she didn't 😂

I favour Streeting personally. Lucy Powell less well known despite the high profile jobs she has had which could suggest a lack of charisma? She wasn't on my radar and I admit I had to Google who she is.

It's a little sad that politicians of any party abusing women makes you laugh.

Agree he is on borrowed time, but he may be useful to the Labour party by taking some more flack before he is dumped. Plus there is a lack of candidates as you pointed out.
I think most candidates will want to keep their powder dry until later in the year, and without a challenger there won't be a resignation and caretaker

So for you knowingly appointing someone who was close enough friends to stay in their flat whilst they were in prison for being on of the most prolific sex offenders ever is OK.

Has this been proven? That’s not what has been said in this Guardian article.

I think you’re getting ahead of yourself.

The Labour MPs voted yesterday to support the Tories in requesting the public release of the file and that they would rather trust a Cross Bench Committee to review the release than their own Government. That is pretty damming

Labour MPs did not vote to support the Tories 🙄.

The government changed its position so that documents would be sent to the ISC rather than being withheld, which was an acceptable compromise to both Labour back benchers and the Tories.

Starmer and Reeves came in on a wave of self-inflicted negativity, or have you forgotten?

Talking down the economy etc.

True but the left wing rags were just the same re negative stories on a daily basis when the Tories were in power.

All the media wants to do these days in stir shit. Very little actual journalism going on.

Nice try, what made me laugh was that poster’s rather naive position that Labour want women abused, whilst Tories are supposedly their saviours.

These anti Starmer posts are getting to be quite monotonist. Does the OP think that he/she is going to topple Labour or oust Starmer?

Certainly seems like it with the daily whinge. And yes I can scroll on past 🥱

And it’s not like Partygate didn’t dominate headlines and Sunak’s wife, him using a card. People on here were there for that so they know the media is tough. It’s just focusing on Labour now.

Don’t turn on the radio, or read the papers.

Yes well, the economy was hardly great was it? and Badenoch and Farage have been telling us all ever since how "broken" the UK is.... despite Badenoch having been in the Tory Govt for over 5 years.....

So hardly blameless....

Nah.

Starmer is doing an awesome job on his own.

You make no sense.

Yesterday was an opposition day motion. The Conversvatives put forward the motion to release the files. The Labour MPs voted it for it. Normally they would vote against the oppositon day motions. The Labour MPs supported the Conservative Motion. There is no other way to look at that.

The Prime Minister proposed an amendment that his office was filter the information. The Labour MPs required that this was taken out of the Cabinet office hands and balanced into a cross group.

Before this scandal, you may have had a point but Starmer has bought this ALL on himself.

Who on here would be friends and promote a man who had a close personal friendship with a man convicted of child sex trafficking?

Its little wonder so many Labour back benchers are furious with Starmer, i expected so much more.

Placed into context against appointing a close friend of a convicted paedophile at the heart of government.

It all pales doesn’t it?

The poor victims, seriously.

Agree about the lack of real journalism. Though the number of right wing rags significantly outnumber the ones on the right.