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To think there needs to be a points strategy for voting.

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StarofWonderStarofLight · 29/01/2026 15:02

As we are all aware, there are some seriously concerning political views held by some of the nation.

In a bid to make sure that the vote is done fairly, and more substantiated by people with the intelligence to vote properly - I think it should be along the lines of this.

2 votings points to those who have completed university or a degree.
1 voting point to those who have completed GCSE of 3 C’s and above.
0.5 voting point to those with anything less than that.
0.25 voting point to members of society who have been convicted previously.

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Hoardasurass · 29/01/2026 16:36

Hangerbout · 29/01/2026 15:15

I kinda see OP’s point about, er, points.

If it were me, I would allocate a x2 extra vote multiplier to parents and taxpayers, to give these voters more weighting in the system.

Extra votes for parents would mitigate against the trend for the elderly vote to trump all else, at the expense of the economy and our national infrastructure. The most egregious example of this is the WFA paid to wealthy pensioners in under occupied homes during an energy, cost-of-living and housing crisis (where thousands of children are living in damp, cold B&Bs right now).

Extra votes to taxpayers would also help rebalance the trend towards higher and ever more expansive benefits (because non taxpayers vastly outnumber taxpayers), the likes of which threaten to destroy all opportunities for investment in defence, housing, education and transport infrastructure.

You do realise that most elderly people are parents right
Also most people in receipt of uc are in work and tax payers.

A better policy would require everyone to be over 25 and pass a basic comprehension test to vote, fail the test you dont get to vote that year

StarofWonderStarofLight · 29/01/2026 16:36

BashfulClam · 29/01/2026 16:35

That was one of suggestion on this thread, that parents get more voting power. I should have quoted it.

Right. I must have missed that but no I do not agree with that.

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fartoomuchtoblerone · 29/01/2026 16:37

So your solution to combat the rise of the right, driven by inequality and people feeling left behind by those in power, is to further disempower and marginalise them? Yeah that’s really gonna help.

Your suggestion does away with democracy. You’d be as well to move to a wholesale technocracy. That’s the basis of democracy - everybody counts the same.

Dgll · 29/01/2026 16:37

Boomer55 · 29/01/2026 16:22

Most people have always voted with their wallets. It’s nothing new.

Oh course they have. It is a bit foolish not to. OP seems to think they vote based on their intelligence level and not their financial situation though.

justtheotheronemrswembley · 29/01/2026 16:39

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In a democracy, everyone should have a vote. ONE vote.

Just like it is now, in fact. Unless of course you don't think we should live in a democracy any longer.

BigAnne · 29/01/2026 16:40

@StarofWonderStarofLight you sound very much like the poster who wanted a deduction on their NI contributions because you don't use the NHS 🤔

Applecup · 29/01/2026 16:41

I’ve an idea. How about everyone over the age of 18 gets one vote. Doesn’t matter which political leaning, level of education, whether you are married or single, working or unemployed, a pensioner, homeowner or not …

Oh, hold on a minute!

ShanghaiDiva · 29/01/2026 16:41

StarofWonderStarofLight · 29/01/2026 16:36

Right. I must have missed that but no I do not agree with that.

And you don’t agree because..?

MrsMcGarry · 29/01/2026 16:41

fartoomuchtoblerone · 29/01/2026 16:37

So your solution to combat the rise of the right, driven by inequality and people feeling left behind by those in power, is to further disempower and marginalise them? Yeah that’s really gonna help.

Your suggestion does away with democracy. You’d be as well to move to a wholesale technocracy. That’s the basis of democracy - everybody counts the same.

This. And it's the job of politicians to communicate effectively . I detest everything Farage stands for and work really hard to stop him, but people like him because he's good at connecting with their fears - which are real. He just gives them simplistic but fake solutions (get rid of immigrants) to their problems. Too many people in politics (and the OP) instead dismiss their problems

Loveheart1001 · 29/01/2026 16:41

BashfulClam · 29/01/2026 16:33

Also my parents who couldn’t go to university because in their day you left school at 15 you got a job and you handed in your keep to your parents. Less voting power for them 🤔

Honestly, I mean I can’t believe that this thread is even serious.

My mum left school at 15 because that’s what a lot of people did in those days. She’s paid a load of tax, worked all of her working life in an essential role, she’s volunteered and done so much for others and yet op thinks that she deserves less of a vote. wtf?

How can anyone think that your level of qualifications is the only marker of intelligence?

ShanghaiDiva · 29/01/2026 16:42

Applecup · 29/01/2026 16:41

I’ve an idea. How about everyone over the age of 18 gets one vote. Doesn’t matter which political leaning, level of education, whether you are married or single, working or unemployed, a pensioner, homeowner or not …

Oh, hold on a minute!

I like it. Do you think it will catch on? 🤣

StarofWonderStarofLight · 29/01/2026 16:43

ShanghaiDiva · 29/01/2026 16:42

I like it. Do you think it will catch on? 🤣

I don’t really tolerate sarcasm on my threads. FYI.

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BlackCatDiscoClub · 29/01/2026 16:43

Serious answer - better political education including non-judgemental but detailed description of what parties stand for, perhaps based around a political compass, and the pros and cons of each political stance including social and economic impact.

Semi serious - Platos republic but now with added women

Non serious- 100 voting points awarded to people who are currently wearing a pink dressing gown and whose favourite food is vegetable dhansak and who have two cats and one dog and live in my house.

ShanghaiDiva · 29/01/2026 16:44

StarofWonderStarofLight · 29/01/2026 16:43

I don’t really tolerate sarcasm on my threads. FYI.

FYI I don’t think it’s up to you what is and isn’t tolerated on this thread.

loislovesstewie · 29/01/2026 16:44

JonesTown · 29/01/2026 16:21

@AlcoholicAntibiotic

My view is that there should be constituencies for each of Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, Imperial, LSE, King's College, Durham, Manchester, Edinburgh, St Andrews and Dundee universities.

That would ensure that graduates of these elite institutions- who by definition have better critical thinking and higher intelligence than average, have a greater say in the future of the nation.

That would benefit all.

Critical thinking skills! God that's made me laugh! The same people who often think that men can become women!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Ponoka7 · 29/01/2026 16:46

StarofWonderStarofLight · 29/01/2026 16:24

10000% agree with this

Quite a few child abusers, pedophiles and far right (Nazi supporters) and Thatcher (category of her own) came from those educational establishments. The Nazis were very well educated. People like that used to completely run society, which is now why we are are having to pay out so much compensation. The doctors didn't care of the affect the perscibed medication was about to have on their patients (who according to you wouldn't get many voting points). The abuse in the children's homes was ignored and then files destroyed. Those children wouldn't grow up to get many points. This is just breaking, the instigators would get lots of voting points, under your system, their victims, none.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8de3ld05yo.amp

A bearded man wearing a cardigan and striped shirt standing in front of the sea

Scotland's travellers suffered 'cultural genocide', report says

New research claims social experiments on Scotland's Gypsy Travellers were a form of "cultural genocide".

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8de3ld05yo.amp

justtheotheronemrswembley · 29/01/2026 16:47

I read 'Animal Farm' recently, and I would suggest the OP does the same.

Just in case they can't be bothered, I'll just leave this quote here, shall I?

All animals are equal
But some animals are more equal than others

Perhaps that is the sort of society the OP is hoping and aiming for.

StarofWonderStarofLight · 29/01/2026 16:47

ShanghaiDiva · 29/01/2026 16:44

FYI I don’t think it’s up to you what is and isn’t tolerated on this thread.

I think you’ll find it’s my thread.

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BlackCatDiscoClub · 29/01/2026 16:47

loislovesstewie · 29/01/2026 16:44

Critical thinking skills! God that's made me laugh! The same people who often think that men can become women!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Oooh is Dundee elite? Amazing, ok I've changed my mind, chuck out democracy, 1000 points to meeee!

Hang on, is this what they mean when they say power corrupts?

ChrisMartinsKisskam · 29/01/2026 16:48

What about you cant vote if you watch love Island or I’m A Celeb or maybe Strictly 😂

ShanghaiDiva · 29/01/2026 16:49

StarofWonderStarofLight · 29/01/2026 16:47

I think you’ll find it’s my thread.

I think you’ll find you’re not a moderator…

Pistachiocake · 29/01/2026 16:49

AlcoholicAntibiotic · 29/01/2026 15:05

And 0 points for anyone who comes up with stupid ideas like this one.

Not only is it potentially discriminatory (certainly based on age, if nothing else) but going to university doesn’t mean you are more intelligent than someone who hasn’t done so - people make different choices for all kinds of reasons.

I’m also intrigued what you mean by “people who… vote properly”. Do you mean those who share your views? Because that’s not how democracy works.

People of my gran's age and class seldom got the chance to go to university. It's only recently become the case that "most" people go to college/uni, which I don't think is a good idea anyway.
Are these people more intelligent than my gran? I doubt it.
You're likely to get higher grades if you went to a good school. Middle/upper class girls without disabilities are far likely to get high GCSE grades than other people, so it could potentially be sexist, classist and most of all ableist. Admittedly the world will never be fair and equal, but this seems a step back.
Would you say the people on your list shouldn't have to pay tax, and only clever people should? No taxation without representation might be a cliché, but there's a reason for it.

Applecup · 29/01/2026 16:50

StarofWonderStarofLight · 29/01/2026 16:47

I think you’ll find it’s my thread.

Do you realise how childish you sound? 0 votes for big babies.

Imaginingdragonsagain · 29/01/2026 16:50

What if someone has been given an honorary degree?

StarofWonderStarofLight · 29/01/2026 16:50

Pistachiocake · 29/01/2026 16:49

People of my gran's age and class seldom got the chance to go to university. It's only recently become the case that "most" people go to college/uni, which I don't think is a good idea anyway.
Are these people more intelligent than my gran? I doubt it.
You're likely to get higher grades if you went to a good school. Middle/upper class girls without disabilities are far likely to get high GCSE grades than other people, so it could potentially be sexist, classist and most of all ableist. Admittedly the world will never be fair and equal, but this seems a step back.
Would you say the people on your list shouldn't have to pay tax, and only clever people should? No taxation without representation might be a cliché, but there's a reason for it.

There are open universities for mature students should they want to scrub up their educational skills?

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