To think there needs to be a points strategy for voting.

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As we are all aware, there are some seriously concerning political views held by some of the nation.

In a bid to make sure that the vote is done fairly, and more substantiated by people with the intelligence to vote properly - I think it should be along the lines of this.

2 votings points to those who have completed university or a degree.
1 voting point to those who have completed GCSE of 3 C’s and above.
0.5 voting point to those with anything less than that.
0.25 voting point to members of society who have been convicted previously.

A childhood classmate of mine with a solid university degree is a massive conspiracy nut. False flag beliefs, end of times happening and massive Trump fan.

I don’t agree with the snarky tone BUT a survey to assess voting capacity does sound like a good idea.

We could go further: upweight the vote according to how high their school and university ranks in the tables. Do the same for the votes of MPs and Lords in parliamentary votes.

What do you think, OP?

And a point deducted for readers of the Daily Mail or GB News viewers?

While I despair that it is often a case of turkeys voting for Christmas because some people don't use critical thinking skills when voting - a one person one vote system is the most democratic and we would not have a fair society if this was not the case. So yes, even my racist brother in law deserves to be able to vote.

Whaaat about, just better censorship?

Oh I’m quaking in my boots.

Mumsnet playground slur of the week ‘I bet you vote reform’ - please, respectfully, grow up.

So you have to take on thousands of pounds worth of debt to get a higher voting score? And people who can afford it automatically get better voting rights than those who can't?

You've just failed your own test, OP.

Personally, I’d remove the vote from anyone who thinks that a degree gives them moral and educationally superiority over the rest of the population.

When you can get accepted into Uni with E grades, it no longer retains any premise of intellectual superiority.

What is actually needed is a far deeper embedding of critical thinking in the population and much stricter rules regarding misinformation.

Pensioners pay tax...... or didnt you know that? And why should money I have put into property to give security in old age be considered? Drove old cars and no holidays for years.

How so? I’ve already got a degree.

I find most university educated people have very little critical thinking skills tbh. Quite scary.

I wouldn't go as far as this. However, I do think we should bring back university constituencies so that graduates with degrees from elite universities effectively have two votes.

Those who have demonstrated a higher level of critical thinking, research skills and intellectual awareness should have a greater say for the good of all.

Ireland still has these I believe, although they are abolishing them sadly.

Yes, because nobody who has graduated from Oxford or Cambridge could possibly have problematic views or act against the best interests of their country.

(And, yes, that was sarcasm for the hard-of-critical-thinking)

I don’t know, hence why I don’t think this could ever work in reality. Unless there was some sort of critical thinking test or “license “ the same way there is for driving or that immigrants are required to do.

Which clearly shows that a degree does not bestow intelligence, if you lack such basic critical thinking skills.

If I made the rules, you’d get a blank piece of paper in which to write the name of the person you were voting for - at least that way you’d actually have to know their name and couldn’t just blindly vote for a party. I’d also stop postal voting - far too many abuses. If people can’t get to the polling station, by all means appoint a proxy, but as long ago as 2005, a judge denounced postal voting as not fit for purpose, saying “It would disgrace a banana republic….There are no systems to deal realistically with fraud and there never have been. Until there are, fraud will continue unabated" - and nothing has changed.

I certainly do not think you lean toward Reform.

My monies on left leaning till you fall over.

How many points do you qualify for if you wave a Palestine flag and shout kill all Jws?
How many many for waving your girl dick around shouting kill all trfs?

I do agree with the point about actually having to know the name. Scribbling Labour on a piece of paper is not good enough.

Maybe we should reintroduce the ‘idiot, lunatic or imbecile’ options on the 10 year census? Perhaps you would like all people who don’t think like you categorised as one of the above?

Apologies but you’re derailing my thread.

Better idea. How about we focus on educating the nation properly. That way the whole system will benefit and not just voting.

Ok. Interesting view - how would you propose to do that?

Educated people are not “better” than people who left school at 16.

Nor are they necessarily more intelligent, or better read, or more interested in politics.

In a democracy the only fair way is to have one person, one vote.

In a democracy the majority rules, even if you and I don’t agree with their choice.

After all the majority suffers the result of their choices just as you or I do.

“Scoring” people is very, very dangerous. What if at some future time someone decides that only certain religions get points, or certain heritage, or certain sexual orientation. And suddenly women lose the vote again.

I’d march in the street against this idea OP, and I have two degrees.