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To think far-right evangelicals, so called 'Christians' forget that God is the final judge?

121 replies

Lovewillwin · 25/01/2026 12:49

The Bible at least says so. I'm not religious btw.

This lot seem to be such a hateful mob. Those in the US and here in the UK.

The most judgemental, hypocritical twats of all time. A massive pull back on women's rights, murder, kidnapping... disappearances, sychophantic behaviour towards the filthy rich, powerful and corrupt, vitriolic onslaught of brown/asian/african people, disabled and LGBT. Not even the lowest of whispers from this mob about rampant domestic violence, paedophilia, rape and femicide from White men in the US and UK.

The Orange Blob and Tommy Tens/Fibbing Farage seem to worshipped as the US and UK's respective new messiahs. AIBU to think far right Christians are a disease and will be the death of Western civilisation?

Please correct me if I'm wrong. Please add any other observations you have made. I am fully aware that there are other cultures/countries were there is discord or mayhem though somewhere in their history they have imperialism and more recently the US to thank for that.

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BunfightBetty · 25/01/2026 12:50

What’s made you decide this is a Christian movement?

smallglassbottle · 25/01/2026 12:54

They're not Christians. They're about as far away from Christ's teachings as it's possible to get. They're not Christians and they don't represent Christianity. They're an abomination.

Lovewillwin · 25/01/2026 12:55

BunfightBetty · 25/01/2026 12:50

What’s made you decide this is a Christian movement?

MAGA are trying to break the constitution and consolidate church with state. Read up on it.

The UK far right are trying to scapegoat immigrants and the boats - mainly muslim of asian, african, middle eastern origin - as the reason for its problems.

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MistressoftheDarkSide · 25/01/2026 12:56

OP check out a documentary by Al Jazeera called "Praying for Armageddon" if you want additional perspective on the religious batshittery underpinning current geopolitics.

Anyone who thinks some major players aren't influenced directly, or aren't leveraging the concept of "spiritual warfare" for their own ends is incredibly naive.

Lovewillwin · 25/01/2026 12:57

smallglassbottle · 25/01/2026 12:54

They're not Christians. They're about as far away from Christ's teachings as it's possible to get. They're not Christians and they don't represent Christianity. They're an abomination.

Both the Eastern orthodoxy and Vatican agree that far right evangelism is a moral stain on Christianity.

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BunfightBetty · 25/01/2026 12:57

Lovewillwin · 25/01/2026 12:55

MAGA are trying to break the constitution and consolidate church with state. Read up on it.

The UK far right are trying to scapegoat immigrants and the boats - mainly muslim of asian, african, middle eastern origin - as the reason for its problems.

So totalitarian idiots who just happen to be a certain extremist version of being Christian, then? Who are using it to justify doing what they want.

Nothing they’re doing is in line with Christian principles or the teachings of Jesus, no matter what they say.

ExtraOnions · 25/01/2026 12:58

They claim to be Christian, but they are not (I might even claim they are worshiping false idols)

Anyway “love thy neighbour” is a central pillar of Christianity - I wonder what part of that “love” is rounding up, imprisoning, then deporting them.

Lovewillwin · 25/01/2026 12:59

BunfightBetty · 25/01/2026 12:57

So totalitarian idiots who just happen to be a certain extremist version of being Christian, then? Who are using it to justify doing what they want.

Nothing they’re doing is in line with Christian principles or the teachings of Jesus, no matter what they say.

Agree. Nothing that they are doing is in Jesus's teachings.

However, they are pushing aggressively their agenda in the name of Christ. Abhorrent.

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Aparecium · 25/01/2026 13:01

All fundamentalism is extremist and, rather than be a return to basic values, is a reinterpretation in whichever extremist way suits the instigators or leaders of the mivement.

Didn’t Jesus say something along the linesof “Let those of you who are without sin throw the first stone”? How sinless are the fundamentalist leaders? How often do we find that they have encouraged sexual abuse that is forbidden in both Bible and civil law? How often do we find that they have broken, and encouraged the breaking of, the Golden Rule of Love Thy Neighbour?

Whatever the religion, or atheism, or ideology, or politics, no fundamentalist believer or practitioner is actually true to the principles they claim to live by.

BunfightBetty · 25/01/2026 13:02

Lovewillwin · 25/01/2026 12:55

MAGA are trying to break the constitution and consolidate church with state. Read up on it.

The UK far right are trying to scapegoat immigrants and the boats - mainly muslim of asian, african, middle eastern origin - as the reason for its problems.

In the UK, Farage isn’t conspicuously Christian, or justifying his hate on it, particularly.

Tommy TenNames occasionally tries to whip up outrage by referring to the UK as a Christian country. But if you’re thinking that churches up and down the UK are pushing any of their rhetoric, you’d be wholly mistaken. It goes AGAINST church teachings and isn’t promoted within them.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 25/01/2026 13:04

I'm an atheist, but I don't think these people are real Christians.

I think they are simply using Christianity to legitimise and justify their extreme political views, in exactly the same way that some have used Islam to justify terrorism and oppressive political regimes.

ExtraOnions · 25/01/2026 13:04

BunfightBetty · 25/01/2026 13:02

In the UK, Farage isn’t conspicuously Christian, or justifying his hate on it, particularly.

Tommy TenNames occasionally tries to whip up outrage by referring to the UK as a Christian country. But if you’re thinking that churches up and down the UK are pushing any of their rhetoric, you’d be wholly mistaken. It goes AGAINST church teachings and isn’t promoted within them.

They are trying to Gaffer-Tape Christianity on top of thier racism .. they use the cross of St George to do this, like they are modern day Crusaders.
I episode like to know how many of those flag-wavers have been to church this morning

Lovewillwin · 25/01/2026 13:05

I fear that the UK is not that far behind with this madness.

Gay conversion therapy is still legal in the UK. Farage has already spoken on reproductive rights and views on women, universal healthcare, the disabled, etc. He's already stirred up a growing mob with his daily aired conflated and false diatribes. Same with Tommy/Yaxley-Lennon.

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thistimelastweek · 25/01/2026 13:05

Total agreement that they are not Christians.
It's just that Christian Fundamentalist sounds a tad better than right-wing racist.

Lovewillwin · 25/01/2026 13:06

BunfightBetty · 25/01/2026 13:02

In the UK, Farage isn’t conspicuously Christian, or justifying his hate on it, particularly.

Tommy TenNames occasionally tries to whip up outrage by referring to the UK as a Christian country. But if you’re thinking that churches up and down the UK are pushing any of their rhetoric, you’d be wholly mistaken. It goes AGAINST church teachings and isn’t promoted within them.

You clearly don't know how far many white men will go, with or without Church support, to maintain their privileges.

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Clychaugog · 25/01/2026 13:08

BunfightBetty · 25/01/2026 12:50

What’s made you decide this is a Christian movement?

Public knowledge that Tommeh 'found jesus' during his stint in prison and is organising 'Christian' events

Lovewillwin · 25/01/2026 13:09

Aparecium · 25/01/2026 13:01

All fundamentalism is extremist and, rather than be a return to basic values, is a reinterpretation in whichever extremist way suits the instigators or leaders of the mivement.

Didn’t Jesus say something along the linesof “Let those of you who are without sin throw the first stone”? How sinless are the fundamentalist leaders? How often do we find that they have encouraged sexual abuse that is forbidden in both Bible and civil law? How often do we find that they have broken, and encouraged the breaking of, the Golden Rule of Love Thy Neighbour?

Whatever the religion, or atheism, or ideology, or politics, no fundamentalist believer or practitioner is actually true to the principles they claim to live by.

Tell this to my ex male friend, who as it turns out is a 'fundamentalist'. He didn't like it when I quoted scripture from the gospel. Glad I don't have that MF in my life anymore 😂 - partly what motivated me to post this thread.

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Lovewillwin · 25/01/2026 13:09

Clychaugog · 25/01/2026 13:08

Public knowledge that Tommeh 'found jesus' during his stint in prison and is organising 'Christian' events

This and the flag shagging brigade.

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Lovewillwin · 25/01/2026 13:11

Lovewillwin · 25/01/2026 13:06

You clearly don't know how far many white men will go, with or without Church support, to maintain their privileges.

And will use Christianity to protect their Aryan wummin and children from them evil brown people

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MistressoftheDarkSide · 25/01/2026 13:12

Alot of Americans believe they are paving the way for the literal Second Coming of Christ to solve all the "problems" of the world, and believe the ends justify the means. Alot of other rich powerful people use that psychology for their own ends. It's madness.

TheNinny · 25/01/2026 13:12

From what I see Islamic extremism is a bigger problem world wide and a bigger hypocrite in that in claims to be religion my peace. Isis, al queida (however you spell it) , what the taliban are doing to can right now to women, and the iranian regime etc. Somehow this gets pass though or played down.

Trump and actions are not in the name of evangelicalism. He wasn’t and isn’t a practicing christian before his presidency and only holds loose affiliation to get elected. Neither is reform or whatever in the UK though there is a push for ‘christian values’ recently (against the growth of islam here).

In the UK, evangelical churches are full of people of colour and are definitely not a white only movement.

BunfightBetty · 25/01/2026 13:19

ExtraOnions · 25/01/2026 13:04

They are trying to Gaffer-Tape Christianity on top of thier racism .. they use the cross of St George to do this, like they are modern day Crusaders.
I episode like to know how many of those flag-wavers have been to church this morning

Absolutely, you put it very well. This is indeed what’s going on. I’d also like to know how many were at church this morning. Few, if not none, I expect.

BunfightBetty · 25/01/2026 13:19

Clychaugog · 25/01/2026 13:08

Public knowledge that Tommeh 'found jesus' during his stint in prison and is organising 'Christian' events

How convenient for him.

BunfightBetty · 25/01/2026 13:21

Lovewillwin · 25/01/2026 13:06

You clearly don't know how far many white men will go, with or without Church support, to maintain their privileges.

I’m confused. What’s making you think I don’t know this?

Ponoka7 · 25/01/2026 13:27

What's a real Christian? The Nuns in Ireland certainly wasn't. The Nazis? The Vatican, who didn't condemn the Nazis? The witch hunters? When was the leaders in the UK Christian? So I've voted YABU.
"I am fully aware that there are other cultures/countries were there is discord or mayhem though somewhere in their history they have imperialism and more recently the US to thank for that."
Really? Child marriage, FGM, no women's rights, kidnapping, beheadings, cooking people and breathing in their vapour (all things that happenin Uganda and Nigeria today), wasn't inflicted by imperialism.

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