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To think far-right evangelicals, so called 'Christians' forget that God is the final judge?

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Lovewillwin · 25/01/2026 12:49

The Bible at least says so. I'm not religious btw.

This lot seem to be such a hateful mob. Those in the US and here in the UK.

The most judgemental, hypocritical twats of all time. A massive pull back on women's rights, murder, kidnapping... disappearances, sychophantic behaviour towards the filthy rich, powerful and corrupt, vitriolic onslaught of brown/asian/african people, disabled and LGBT. Not even the lowest of whispers from this mob about rampant domestic violence, paedophilia, rape and femicide from White men in the US and UK.

The Orange Blob and Tommy Tens/Fibbing Farage seem to worshipped as the US and UK's respective new messiahs. AIBU to think far right Christians are a disease and will be the death of Western civilisation?

Please correct me if I'm wrong. Please add any other observations you have made. I am fully aware that there are other cultures/countries were there is discord or mayhem though somewhere in their history they have imperialism and more recently the US to thank for that.

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Soontobe60 · 25/01/2026 18:09

Islamic extremism was never a problem until middle eastern countries were INVADED FOR OIL.
What you mean is, western countries that knew very little about Islam before those countries were ‘invaded for oil’ had no idea about the extremism that was taking place. Now they do, and are appalled by it.

Playingvideogames · 25/01/2026 18:09

They’re all raging hypocrites too.

All these ‘trad wives’ claiming they have all fulfilment from the home and their family, yet clinging on to social media like their life depends on it. Their posts are always nasty and judgemental - these aren’t happy women.

Erika Kirk - as much as I dislike commenting on somebody recently bereaved, she and her husband made huge sums of money through a stance that women should stay at home, raise their kids, settle down young. She married in her 30s, runs several businesses, is now a CEO and spends most of her week doing speaking engagements

Kingscallops · 25/01/2026 18:14

Playingvideogames · 25/01/2026 18:09

They’re all raging hypocrites too.

All these ‘trad wives’ claiming they have all fulfilment from the home and their family, yet clinging on to social media like their life depends on it. Their posts are always nasty and judgemental - these aren’t happy women.

Erika Kirk - as much as I dislike commenting on somebody recently bereaved, she and her husband made huge sums of money through a stance that women should stay at home, raise their kids, settle down young. She married in her 30s, runs several businesses, is now a CEO and spends most of her week doing speaking engagements

How awful,a violently bereaved wife getting on with it. Part of the Christian faith is looking up and onwards. How dare she. Quite a contrast to the left wing murderer who took her and her kids lives away.

BunfightBetty · 25/01/2026 19:43

Lovewillwin · 25/01/2026 16:12

Sorry, what I mean is, in reference to lack of support from UK churches, these extremists will use Christianity as a stick to beat others with to maintain their privileges.
Some churches may publically denounce the political far right, but in closed spaces, discuss their white supremist ideology and favour towards the UK becoming a theocracy, the support of still legalised conversion therapy and abolishing women's reproductive rights. I know it happens, I have come across it, in person and in the wider media.

in closed spaces, discuss their white supremist ideology and favour towards the UK becoming a theocracy, the support of still legalised conversion therapy and abolishing women's reproductive rights. I know it happens, I have come across it, in person and in the wider media

I can’t imagine any church being openly racist as a policy/teaching. I’ve never come across this in the UK. If it does happen, it must only be in fringe ‘churches’.

Conversion therapy I am aware can happen in very extreme evangelical circles, and as for women’s reproductive rights, the Catholic Church has always been against this and the position hasn’t changed, but most Catholics in this country ignore it. None of these are mainstream CofE teaching, which focuses heavily on loving your neighbour.

I can’t see many Christians going for it, though no doubt there will be some outliers.

Upstartled · 25/01/2026 19:48

Where are all these far right religious people? I barely know anyone who even swings by a church unless it's a Christening, marriage or funeral or - at a push- to get into the local good school.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 25/01/2026 19:56

Upstartled · 25/01/2026 19:48

Where are all these far right religious people? I barely know anyone who even swings by a church unless it's a Christening, marriage or funeral or - at a push- to get into the local good school.

Currently, openly, in the US funnelling money to the likes of Farage.

Upstartled · 25/01/2026 20:07

MistressoftheDarkSide · 25/01/2026 19:56

Currently, openly, in the US funnelling money to the likes of Farage.

So, are you saying that there are no far-right Christian fundamentalists in the UK now, that they are in the US and these far right Christian fundamentalists are giving money to (the likes of?) Farage...to do what?...The Church of England, the religion of tea and cake, can barely keep the lights on - I'm not sure there's a large appetite here to terraform the religious landscape to the hell and brimstone - full rules and judgement - Christianity, is there? What a colossal misunderstanding of their audience and money pit that would be.

BunfightBetty · 25/01/2026 20:09

MistressoftheDarkSide · 25/01/2026 19:56

Currently, openly, in the US funnelling money to the likes of Farage.

Things are very different in the US churches and always have been. We haven’t followed suit here in the last however many decades, so I’m not overly worried that it would happen now. If anything, seeing the USA going willingly to hell in a handcart will make this even less appealing than it might even be otherwise.

whereHeroesAremade · 25/01/2026 20:16

Apparently you are not a christian, leave alone evangelical, if what you described in your post is claimed to be christian.

whereHeroesAremade · 25/01/2026 20:17

Lovewillwin · 25/01/2026 12:55

MAGA are trying to break the constitution and consolidate church with state. Read up on it.

The UK far right are trying to scapegoat immigrants and the boats - mainly muslim of asian, african, middle eastern origin - as the reason for its problems.

mainly muslim of asian, african, middle eastern origin....

this is a very broad statement, right? these men are not all the same and not all are muslim. Are you muslim btw

Sparron · 25/01/2026 20:18

I am shocked by the constant marches through London of right wing Christian groups chanting about wiping about an entire people...........oh wait..............no, that isn't Christians, its the other ones.

If its a choice between Christian nutters who might tut behind their twitching curtains vs the other nutters who have a habit of flinging people off buildings and beheading those that offend them, I know which society I'd probably feel safer in and which is the bigger threat to western democracies.

whereHeroesAremade · 25/01/2026 20:19

Lovewillwin · 25/01/2026 12:57

Both the Eastern orthodoxy and Vatican agree that far right evangelism is a moral stain on Christianity.

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and vice versa my dear

whereHeroesAremade · 25/01/2026 20:20

TheNinny · 25/01/2026 13:12

From what I see Islamic extremism is a bigger problem world wide and a bigger hypocrite in that in claims to be religion my peace. Isis, al queida (however you spell it) , what the taliban are doing to can right now to women, and the iranian regime etc. Somehow this gets pass though or played down.

Trump and actions are not in the name of evangelicalism. He wasn’t and isn’t a practicing christian before his presidency and only holds loose affiliation to get elected. Neither is reform or whatever in the UK though there is a push for ‘christian values’ recently (against the growth of islam here).

In the UK, evangelical churches are full of people of colour and are definitely not a white only movement.

it is not ignored. Muslim women who start such posts like these, are pretending that the world does not see what islam is doing ....backed by Labour

Playingvideogames · 25/01/2026 20:24

Kingscallops · 25/01/2026 18:14

How awful,a violently bereaved wife getting on with it. Part of the Christian faith is looking up and onwards. How dare she. Quite a contrast to the left wing murderer who took her and her kids lives away.

Only I didn’t criticise her for getting on with it or looking onwards, did I? I criticised her because she encourages every other woman to stay at home and prioritise kids over work, yet she’s a CEO and business owner who is getting more famous by the week.

ReturnOfTheToad · 25/01/2026 20:26

Soontobe60 · 25/01/2026 18:09

Islamic extremism was never a problem until middle eastern countries were INVADED FOR OIL.
What you mean is, western countries that knew very little about Islam before those countries were ‘invaded for oil’ had no idea about the extremism that was taking place. Now they do, and are appalled by it.

So appalled that they tortured, sexually abused, raped and smeared excrement on them while posing for smiling selfies with them.

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To think far-right evangelicals, so called 'Christians' forget that God is the final judge?
Kingscallops · 25/01/2026 20:41

Sparron · 25/01/2026 20:18

I am shocked by the constant marches through London of right wing Christian groups chanting about wiping about an entire people...........oh wait..............no, that isn't Christians, its the other ones.

If its a choice between Christian nutters who might tut behind their twitching curtains vs the other nutters who have a habit of flinging people off buildings and beheading those that offend them, I know which society I'd probably feel safer in and which is the bigger threat to western democracies.

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Love this ❤️

Kingscallops · 25/01/2026 20:44

Playingvideogames · 25/01/2026 20:24

Only I didn’t criticise her for getting on with it or looking onwards, did I? I criticised her because she encourages every other woman to stay at home and prioritise kids over work, yet she’s a CEO and business owner who is getting more famous by the week.

Yeah because every single high profile speaker practices what they preach. Are you going to single out the left wing hypocrites as well?

GeneralPeter · 25/01/2026 21:06

Elderlycatparent002 · 25/01/2026 18:05

And yes - it does require very, very selective reading of the Bible to ignore the constant call to care for the sojourner/foreigner/widow/orphan. It’s very difficult to be a committed Christian and hold far right beliefs. They are fundamentally opposing beliefs.

I agree with you for those specific reasons, ie it’s the anti-outsider, anti-weakness strands of far right thought that are very hard to reconcile with Christ’s teachings. Also racism.

By the same token though, I think you could build a state with slavery, without abortion rights or gay rights, and have a pretty decent go at reconciling that with Christ’s teaching.

I just don’t think that Christ’s views map well onto our modern politics or conceptions of justice at all.

(I’m not a Christian and not advocating any of the above, btw!)

Playingvideogames · 25/01/2026 21:37

Kingscallops · 25/01/2026 20:44

Yeah because every single high profile speaker practices what they preach. Are you going to single out the left wing hypocrites as well?

Yes, and I regularly do, if you want to check my posting history.

Sparron · 25/01/2026 21:56

ReturnOfTheToad · 25/01/2026 20:26

So appalled that they tortured, sexually abused, raped and smeared excrement on them while posing for smiling selfies with them.

Wait till you see some videos of what Muslims do to each other...

keepeofthesevenkeys · 26/01/2026 14:57

Lovewillwin · 25/01/2026 16:29

Please. Just because some people are not Christian Zionists does not mean that they are antisemitic. And just because some people are Jewish, practising or not, does not mean that they are a Zionist. That old rhetoric is as old as time and has been abated by the millions of Jews around the world who do not support the far right I.$r@eli government. 🙄 Bore off

Israel isn't a swearword you know, you can write out the name of the country.

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