Are all fathers creepy?

[Alex122022]

My experience in a different thread (on swimming pool changing room etiquette) has been quite interesting: there seems to be a widely shared opinion that all men are creeps and there are never any innocent explanations for their behaviour.

While I completely agree that a father in a women's changing room - especially when there are older girls - is inappropriate, I can easily see how this could happen without any ulterior motive. Be it simply ignorance or lack of judgement.

I experienced the same on playgrounds: playing hide & seek with my daughter? Mothers approach my DW and tell her that "a perv" is watching the children. Playing with DD - well meaning mothers asking her whether she is ok or needs help.

AIBU to think this is a bit excessive?

Maybe their experiences are that of men being so useless or predatory that they can’t leave a baby with them. That’s not my experience as my dad and my DH were/are hands on and trustworthy. I am able to acknowledge that I am lucky with this rather than in the majority.

I haven’t read the thread you’ve posted - but why would any man be in the women’s changing room in the first place?

Of course people will assume he’s a creep, so if he doesn’t like that he should get some bloody self awareness.

I don’t have any sympathy for a man who is labelled a creep, whether he is or not - he shouldn’t be there in the first place making women uncomfortable.

The man’s entitlement is the problem.

I mean look at you on here OP (assume you’re a man?) telling women they’re wrong for assuming a man in the female changing rooms is a creep 🤷‍♀️

I never thought that women are so gullible that they can be "rage baited" - and fortunately this thread restored my believe that this actually true.

But could you please tell me what "MRA" means?

My father was a creep, and was also volubly indignant about women treating him with suspicion.

He used to go on all the time about how sexist it was that he couldn’t go into the women’s toilets to change my nappy, and how if women weren’t OK with this then how could they possibly expect equal rights / equal opportunities, etc.

He viewed all women with utter contempt and preyed on his vulnerable female students.

Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out ....

No one has ever suggested my dh os a perv for playing with my dd. I don't automatically assume all men are.

This.

Don’t let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya! 😂

Simply did not think …. Try using that as your defence in court and let me know how you get on
Adults (female mainly) are required to think. And if they don’t, there are consequences

I think it’s a case of “Better safe than sorry”.
I would always rather err on side of caution where my DC are concerned.

As a parent I’d support that - it’s good for children to think stranger danger about me if I’m a stranger for example, and I would never get offended about that.

Men really don't care when they're not wanted do they? They just dig their heels in ....

You know your little incel buddies, the ones you talk about mean and nasty women with, because they have thoughts and opinions of their own and dont fawn all over you, well, as a collective you're MRAs.

HTH

Of course not.

🤣

Which court? The man in question most likely didn't do anything illeag.

I think everyone should give Alex a for his journey back to wherever he came from.

It seems to so beyond understanding that those feelings are based on real life experiences. They're a direct reaction to how men behave.

There clearly is no hope - I assume you are a female INCEL?

I don’t think all fathers - or all men - are creepy, but I’d definitely be side-eyeing the ones who profess wide-eyed naivety at women being wary of them, or who take women’s boundaries as a personal slight 🤷🏻‍♀️

Why is a dude on here with the intention of trying to argue with women?

Why is a dude on here with the intention of trying to argue with women?

Come on now! You’re showing your true colours. 😂

Oh dear, the mask wasn't on very well to begin with, but its slipping even more now 🤣

Yep! The ones who claim to not know are definitely the ones I want nowhere near me!