The risk of this happening will see a rise of men getting disgruntled

[MikeRafone]

when they try to talk to woman and get the silent treatment

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr7jej2elyyo

I'd be more concerned about them being used to film children.

Time to bring back the old Dorothy Parker line:

Women Never Make Passes
At Men Wearing Glasses.

OK I've reversed it for 2026.

People can be concerned about both.

yeah, let women be abused ... will nobody think of the children

So we have another man come on mumsnet to lecture women and blame us for the disgusting behaviour of men.
Men are not entitled to womens time, energy or engagement.
If men want women to talk to them or consider dating them, then they need to become decent human beings and stop perving on women and behaving as if they are entitled to our time, energy and effort.
Yet again men are behaving like twats and then refusing to accept that its their behaviour that's the problem so are blaming women instead of looking at themselves.
The biggest reason for incels is the behaviour and attitude of the men in question putting everyone off them.

I'm not a man
You haven't read the thread
I havn't blamed myself or other woman for the behaviour of men
The rest of your post I agree with

Where have they said they're a man?!
For goodness sake, this kind of shit on MN is ridiculous.
Try actually reading what they've posted. I think it was a fairly badly worded title and post, but they seem to be in agreement that the whole filming nonsense needs to stop.

I think your thread title, and maybe the wording of your first post mislead people a bit @MikeRafone I can see what you're saying, and you've explained yourself a few times since your first post. You're on the side of women, and are saying that with all this weird shit going on - men recording/filming everything women say, women will stop engaging with them at all, leaving men disgruntled and aggy. (And possibly a threat to women, as they may turn aggressive and arsey?)

I think that's what you are saying?

well I wouldn't mention my children or their ages "I work just over there" could indicate its a good place to stalk from and "I work for the council" could also indicate a contact point. I mean it doesn't need some new kit for people to understand to be careful what they say to strangers?

Yes this is my understanding as well

yes, in a nutshell

Im a woman that can see these men that film becoming disgruntled with the way woman interact with them due to shit like this that they pull.

Ive ignored men in the past and it becomes difficult when they keep pestering, cat calling and that type of behaviour along with the "smile it might never happen" I've been asked on a date in the middle of a busy shift at work, which is totally out of order. Then the likes of Charlie Kirks and a few other high profile males like him, who then rouse men to be victims of woman, it will become the woman's fault that men are being ignored and they will not take ownership of their own behaviour

Interesting they never try to engage with other men isn't it?

I'm 62 and had one the other week, in Primark. I was looking at the reading glasses. This man said what a good price they were and I agreed, then I couldn't get rid of him, not until I caught up with my husband. He soon buggered off then.

See to me, that's just chat with another fellow human and I'd shout back "yeah, rubbish today, isn't it?" or whatever and carry on walking.
We're all different though.
Filming people without their consent though and putting online for others to comment on/pass opinion or harass there should be laws against.

Everything I told him, every question he asked, I gave a false answer. Did he seriously expect me to tell him my name, the road I live in, and where I work, and all manner of personal information that would identify me? Fucking weirdo!

After stalking and harassment from men began, back when I was aged 10 or so, I adopted a different name to tell random males in the street when I got approached. Close enough to my own to deal with questions if discovered, distant enough to hopefully not identify my address. It’s an old tactic for personal security.

Women have always needed to consider personal security especially in specific places in this filthy country because the culture is horrible. Sauna culture sounds useful.

If men start becoming disgruntled and more aggressive - I think they already are aggressive enough here, and stats show that it is increasing - eventually we will need to take action. I’m not hopeful for the future to be honest.

I started buying The Big Issue each week a few years ago from a bloke I passed on the way to work. Because being kind. Then it led to him asking for a swig of my coffee & then on to wanting ‘a hug’.

I changed my route.

Then there was the bloke who, because I replied to his ‘Good morning’ immediately wanted to know what my name was & where I lived…

And all the rest…

It’s so much easier just to walk past men as if you hadn’t heard them.

Tell me again why you support allowing males in female spaces.

Who are you talking to? I have an idea but it’s not certain.

This is only my personal experience but I wanted to add it here. I was raised in a house where there men were men (i.e. macho arseholes) and treated women like shit. Many men who visited the house who were the same or worse.

I developed and have maintained until retirement age a deep mistrust and dislike of men. I now have a DH who I adore, but most men I would not give the steam off my piss. It shows in my face, I avoid men, I dislike men. They have pretty much never done anything to persuade me otherwise. If they can't have these new smart glasses they will find other ways - mirrored shoes, drilling holes in bathroom walls - it's not the glasses, it's the fucking men.

I have a glare, an atmosphere and a tone that wards them off like a force field. It worked at work, it works in the street, it works everywhere. Any hint of men wanting anything from me and I turn it all on full power and get the hell out. The menopause and never dressing for the male gaze have both been boons to me. They've not bothered me for years and the world is a better place for it.

Fuck men. Fuck their disgruntlement. Fuck their politics and privilege.

Yeah, I did that the first time, but he then accosted me again as I left the shop. Why? It really is just entitlement and a genuine belief that women are thrilled and flattered that a man has spoken to them.

Honestly at this stage we should just close down social media. Message boards like this [ie Mumsnet] are one thing but all this filming and uploading is fucking horrible. I can't think of a single way that actual life is enhanced by freely uploading footage from personal devices.

@ChurchWindows I really try to give off that kind of vibe and it works with most men. You clearly have a superior level than I have managed. 😆

It is ridiculous that a woman in her sixties can’t walk around in broad daylight, dressed in a huge parka and woolly hat, without having random men abusing her because she isn’t enthralled by their mere existence.

I guess it goes back to that saying that “Men are terrified that women will laugh at them. Women are terrified that men will kill them. “

^I started buying The Big Issue each week a few years ago from a bloke I passed on the way to work. Because being kind. Then it led to him asking for a swig of my coffee & then on to wanting ‘a hug’.
I changed my route^.

and this shouldn't happen, so that woman don't disgruntle men that don't like their advances - but it happens constantly, it'll juts get worse imo

The BBC article states the victims know the TikTok accounts they are being shown on.
So why aren’t the BBC doing an exposé and giving out the names of these harassers.

Why aren’t the police? Existing laws should be able to cover the harassment and abuse women are getting, and if not, why not?

Too much bureaucracy and not enough spirit left in the law.

Existing laws don't cover all the consequences of uploading film containing strangers though. Quite often these things take on a life of their own with commenters "sleuthing" and so on and when mob mentality kicks in it's difficult to pin consequence on one person. If we're going to keep these platforms (and I honestly think we shouldn't), the law needs to catch up and make it an offence to upload footage of another person without permission.

Because someone somewhere may have possibly said something unkind about someone and police are needed to go round and make sure they were thinking correctly or they will write a name in the naughty book.