How to actually get authorities to take action on benefit frauds

[Hattieandcake]

Examples reported and nothing done -

• someone taking cash in hand for dogs - evidence sent online of cash only sales and also including social media showing lifestyle and purchase
• someone who is lying that they are single having a partner living at their government address with ring footage available that they live their permanently - also taking cash in hand jobs - evident on footage
• someone putting their SAHM wife on payroll to reduce income claimed - no work done for the business

These are only 2 of many and nothing is done, I am sick to death of it.

😂😂😂 as if!

OP,
There are probably loads of people playing the system, embellishing their circumstances to their advantage or outright lieing.
They are usually people who cannot afford to support themselves and the income they do get is woefully inadequate, so they look for ways to top it up.
I think most of your frustration comes, not from what other people are 'getting away with', but from your frustration at your own life.
You're knackered, running around trying to keep all the balls in the air, feel like you are struggling, which makes you especially triggered by your neighbours.

The thing is, you can't control what your neighbours do or don't do, so your passion and energy would be better served attempting to control what you can, which is your own circumstances.

If you weren't struggling, you wouldn't be as invested in the comings and goings of your neighbours, unless you were a busy body and I don't feel that is the case.

Focus on what you can do to improve your situation, that's where your power is.

Even if the authorities prosecuted your neighbours, they'll always be other people doing it, and exactly how would that change your own circumstances? Would it relieve your own struggles?

You are putting so much energy into thinking about what other people are doing, how you can stop them doing it, wouldn't it be more beneficial to you to plough all that thought and energy into improving your own life?

You’re still talking shit.

Like a dog with a bone so let it drop.

That is ridiculous.
Going to your MP, after the person has been investigated and nothing untoward was found, is just being malicious.
Your life will not get better in anyway. At all. Water your own grass.

What a ridiculous view. Why would you look at one but not the other? We should be addressing all types of fraud whether it be rich, poor or corporate.

(And would also love to see your evidence for government corruption other than social media bollox).

People like you OP need to go and live in the countryside with no neighbours.

You have no idea of anyone’s circumstances! My cousin was reported for benefit fraud because the sane nan was seen coming in and out of his property in the morning and evening. It was his bloody carer!

You have handed over your evidence, now leave your neighbours alone. Have you mentioned the benefit fraud to the neighbours?

How are the police involved?

Yes, the cops don't get involved because your neighbours children keep going into your garden.

There is so much more to this that OP is not saying, and that is because it will make her look fucking mental.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/07/rishi-sunaks-wife-says-its-not-relevant-to-say-where-she-pays-tax-overseas

And no consequences

Who did you report it to and how long ago? Often authorities take several months to gather evidence before taking action to ensure that their case goes through. Also how do you know for a fact they are on benefits and that what they are doing doesn’t come under the threshold for hobby earnings (aka in the UK you can earn so much via Vinted of Facebook marketplace or car boot sales before you have to declare it) and how do you know for a fact the person who’s partner is staying there, hasn’t a) informed the authorities and b) would effect their benefits. Or are you just guessing and sticking your nose in?

You chose to have children. Why do you want thanks for it?

as you've spent 2 years reporting them, don't you think that time would now be better spent with your kids or reading a book when they're asleep? This obsession with other people's lives isn't healthy.

It must be so taxing for OP to do all this doorbell spying/investigative sleuthing, worrying/fretting, documenting and reporting to the BENEFIT FRAUD Hotline. I think the government should introduce a national reward system for all the good men and women who are doing their civic duty protecting the community, and upholding the rule of law by turning in the fraudulent ones. Sort of like the Tesco Clubcard rewards system. The more fraudsters you catch, the more points you accumulate. These can then be traded in for Pizza Express vouchers or a Thorpe Park Day pass. Would that make you happy, OP?

2 of many? How many people have you reported? Are you allowed ring door bells pointed directly at someones house? When your neighbours figure out that you have reported their family, expect a little more than irritation. I have a friend who reported someone, they ended up having a report against them filed with social service and she was ignored at the school gates by pretty much everyone.

Or you could go and report all the single, self employed dads. Thousands upon thousands of them claim poverty whilst taking cash in hand to avoid CMS. Also local takeaways, car washes, hairdressers, taxi ranks, small independent businesses etc who take cash to avoid taxes. In fact you should set up your own PI business since it seems to take up quite a bit of your headspace and time.

Because pretty all people mention on SM is people on PiP or on benefits. Spin doctors have really got these people working on a smear campaign to rebel rouse against the lowly. It's awful. Next it will be we hate pensioners how dare they claim state pension.

I'm amazed all the people you know on benefits have dropped this evidence through your door, but if you say so, then it must be true.

Get a new hobby or apply for your dream job with the DWP.

Of course there is corruption.
The legendary covid cheese and wine party is just one small example.

And the person saying they were told by a claimant that they don’t lose any uc till after the equivalent of 16 hr per week is wrong. If the claimant is a single parent with rent costs on her claim, she can earn £411 before deductions at 55% per £1 earned kick in (if no housing costs on claim the the wages disregard is currently £673 - both wages disregard amounts will go up in April along with the annual increases in benefits).

But, and it’s a big one, unless she also has limited capability for work on her clam or is a carer for someone receiving gateway benefits (DLA/PIP/AA) then she would be expected to earn £892/month before deductions (equivalent to 18 hours per week at NMW) or have to engage with work coach on a weekly basis until wages go above that threshold. Plus, without earnings of £846 per month, she would be subject to the benefit cap which would cap her total benefits entitlement (from UC, child benefit, ESA, JSA) to £1835 if outside London or £2110.25 inside London (to account for higher housing costs) which, depending on how many children the claimant has or whether they have high housing costs, could mean they also have more money deducted from their uc.

People paying 1000s for dogs,many mongrels ,think there is an appropriate saying, a fool and his money are soon aparted.

abusive and antisocial behaviour - they have sworn at other neighbours making threats, not us (yet)

my house is on the end with an L shape so the ring door covers the next 2 house front door very clearly. I have been encouraged to keep this footage and keep submitting.

the housing company confirmed the partner is not on the tenancy when trying to bring up a complaint against them breaching their contract.

not sure why people are saying I need to get a life etc - I want to be able to relax and be unbothered - impossible with these fraudsters.

I don’t want thanks but I want everyone to pay their way, costs would be lower for others not on benefits if they were directed at the right genuine claimants.

They are usually on a salary below the tax threshold and don’t actually any role or work any hours. Seen plenty of it through my job and yes we were required to notify HMRC and Companies House.

I want to be able to relax and be unbothered - impossible with these fraudstersI

The fraud they're committing doesn't stop you from relaxing. There's clearly been an issue with them and yourselves/neighbors, and you've let yourself get over invested. You thought reporting them to their landlord would get them turfed out, or reporting them for benefit fraud would get them nicked, and now you're in a huff because it hasn't.

Or a shareholder getting a shareholders salary.

Because it’s not up to you to police other people? You realise you are doing exactly what the government wants? This is how they turn communities against each other and get people like you spending all your time informing on everyone else around you, while in the meantime they are doing far worse things and getting away with it because people like you are too busy looking at what everyone else is doing. Worry more about what the people at the top are getting away with while they are filling your head with narratives that benefit claimants are sponging off you because it’s having a far greater cost on society. The single mum down the road and the disabled person round the corner on pip are not the reason the country is in the state it is.