My doctor was late to my appointment because he had been at the local country hotel full of asylum seekers...

[doodiethewonderdog]

When was the last time you had a home visit? Is this a way of managing the " problem" by them taking clinics there? Is it a way of hiding this issue? I understood they did not have access to the NHS yet I see massive bags of medicine labelled for this hotel too at the dispensary. We wait about 6-7 weeks for a routine appointment.

How do you know it was on the NHS and it wasn’t either him volunteering his time or paid for by charities? Much of the ‘free stuff’ people keep complaining about asylum seekers receiving are actually given by charities or donated by local people

Can you link to them please?

Of course asylum seekers need medical care! We don’t let human beings suffer in this country.

All GPs make home visits. I suspect that asylum seekers are a tiny part of their practice.

We have a massive GP issue in this country for a variety of reasons, but that is a separate one to asylum seekers. The numbers of undocumented immigrants we have to deal with and how long we take to process them is also an issue, but a separate one.

HNRTFT but am interested to know how you know so much about your GPs other patients! You must have amazing eyesight to se the names on meds in the surgery for other people!!!

They are regularly issued by the government. If you do t believe me then you should do what people like you always advocate - ‘do your own research’.

But if they are routine, and managed, then what exactly is the medical issue or treatment being affected?

GP is a public service managed by clinical need. You don’t specify any particular need, you say it’s routine. So clinically, quite reasonable potentially.

Or are you just one of those people who thinks public services should be a rolls Royce for them? If there was an issue, you could have been seen by a private GP easily within the time.

How have you actually been affected by this?

Out of basic humanity. The irony is that there are probably some qualified doctors among those very asylum seekers

I would doubt that asylum seekers need a lot of medical care! They are mostly young and must have been fit enough to make the journey.

It’s a non issue.

You sound angry. I don’t tend to post of threads like this but I really don’t get your anger and hate.

What a nasty piece of work you are OP

That is saying more about the people who have come on here and have insulted many things about me as opposed to myself. They seem to be the ones feeling the " rage".

You don’t want to ‘discuss properly’ any issues around healthcare and asylum seekers though do you? You’ve made up your mind, ‘country hotel’, ‘men’ not seeing people ‘working hard’

I've just had a six week for a routine appointment and there are no asylum hotels in our vicinity (rural west Cornwall). So I can't blame foreigners. It's just chronic underfunding and a chronically unhealthy local population that's the cause.

So I take a front at my doctor visiting people who are only 10th generation English people. I go back 50 generations so I think I should be seen first! Do you see how fucking ludicrous your racist argument is. There’s always someone to trump your whiteness, your Englishness. Perhaps you can allocate them a stripes uniform and maybe a star denoting their race and that might help push them down the queue faster!

Ah... no link

Have you done any actual research into why they are having to enter the country like they are doing? Because the process to come and seek asylum ‘legally’ is damn near impossible?! Would you put your children through that journey? Most come , want to work and set up home to then bring family over.
unfortunately they cannot work until processed and that takes years. They’re not leading glamorous lifestyles in their one bedroom with no money, completely isolated with locals standing outside every Saturday shouting at them.
The biggest irony being Brexit created the problem (just look at the numbers since Brexit) and I would bet my house that the overwhelming majority of those who are outraged voted Brexit to “get our borders back” 🙄

You want a conversation about it, other than moan, what is your idea of a solution to bring to the table for discussion OP ?

They should be properly assessed and processed - deported if no eligibility, properly integrated if there is.

You do know that it was the Tory Gvt that signed the contracts with all these hotels some years ago? And the tories already had a huge backlog. (made worse now by Brexit for various complex reasons)

Asylum seekers and migrants are not at a scale to cause a 6 or 7 week appointment delay. That is a bigger problem within your health provision . Oh - maybe ask the Tories and Farage what happened to the £350 million a week for the NHS that was supposed to be freed up by Brexit?

Yes, we are allowed to discuss this stuff, but are you actually discussing it? Or just blaming the Labour Gvt for inherited problems in an irrational 'blame the migrants' kind of way.

And we have no idea why a visit to the migrants might be the best way for a GP to undertake necessary care. Quarantine? Extreme vulnerability? A GP is needed to section someone, more efficient use of time...who knows.

My Mum had numerous home visits from her GP when she was very frail, had mobility issues and dementia.

Why should I? If you believe something different and are ready to set up a thread to talk about it, at least be in possession of the facts before you do so!

Of course the doctor told you where he had been and who he was seeing and of course you saw massive bags of medicine labelled for the hotel lol stop talking utter shite

So what, exactly, is your problem, OP? That asylum seekers have some sort of access to healthcare? Or some speculation that they have access to healthcare on more favourable terms than you?
How do you know how quickly they receive "routine" appointments? My bet is that the healthcare they receive via your GP surgery is pretty minimalist and delayed - what makes you think otherwise?
And as for 'NHS funds', how do you know that these funds are being used? It could be that whatever entity (the local authority?) has responsibility for the welfare of asylum seekers pays the NHS for the (doubtless minimal) healthcare they are receiving.
I suspect you would prefer it if they had no healthcare? But even if you don't care about their basic welfare and rights, how would you feel if an asylum seeker with untreated PTSD (following exposure to appalling wartime violence in their home country) committed a violent act? Or if an asylum seeker with an unmonitored, untreated infection passed it on to the people around them?

You have made many assumptions there which couldn't be further from the truth. What are your suggestions on how to deal with this issue?

Ask MN admin.

Exactly this! There are a lot of people in this country worse off than them, who have paid their taxes etc and are suffering.

countries like Australia don’t just let anyone in , there are strict rules but we do. We welcome anyone and let them use the services that are at breaking point and our own citizens have to wait and struggle to use these services. It’s not right. I’m not saying the asylum seekers don’t deserve what they get but I’m saying why is it to our detriment and why cant we get the same?

If that's true he'll be getting paid by the Home Office. The hotels have doctors that go to these places but you can guarantee he'll not be doing it out of goodness.

By telling you that, which I'm surprised at, means he's a complete shit stirrer and making excuses.

You’re at the wrong GP. It’s two weeks for routine and next day for urgent at my surgery (may be a phonecall if don’t physically need to be seen).
No idea re the process for asylum seeker hotels, but how else are they gonna get medicine?