Traitors is a negative influence on society

[Listenup99]

The TV show Traitors is an example of society breaking down not just a bit of fun entertainment. It glorifies and rewards deceitful behaviour. I can’t actually believe so many people watch it and encourage their kids to watch it as if it is a good thing.

Exactly!!
And what about the dangers of AI & the influence of social media in general?
And the structure of late stage capitalism that we are all.slaves to?

Far, far worse things are affecting society right now than a harmless TV show which brings people together in discussion and brightens an otherwise dismal month.

Clutch your pearls over something that really matters!

It's on TV for something like 18 hours over the whole year, and that's if you include both the usual and celebrity versions. That leaves 8742 Traitors-free hours the rest of the year. It's not like we're spending all our time on It, is it?

People are watching a game. Everyone knows it's a game. It's not the end of society as we know it.

Totally agree. This and stranger things are the only things that pull my dc off their video games

I think the bigger issue in society is that parenting has become so lazy that something as meagre as watching a TV show could influence them. If you've raised strong, independent children with good morals then they shouldn't be influenced so easily.

I know that this comes down to age/maturity so if you've identified that your children could be influenced by this then I respect your decision to not let them watch it. If they're 12+ though, I'd say most neurologically typical children should have strong enough foundational morals and beliefs that they should be able to watch it without walking away thinking it's acceptable to apply to day-to-day life.

You're all missing the point, is it deliberate?

It's the scale of the prize money that makes it so different from other game shows.

And your examples show that you're missing the point because in all those shows the baddies lose.

On balance I think it is actually a good thing. It shows a lot of egoism and it's effects, it also shows cognitive dissonance very clearly, gaslighting and manipulation. I think it is actually teaching the public about social interactions and bias in a very subtle way.

It is a game show of sorts, nothing else. I hope the BBC don't flog it to death as they do with far too many things, the example that comes to mind is The Apprentice.

I think we should be concerned with the real traitors, such as the Prime Minister who unlawfully suspended Parliament and the leader of Reform.

Well no, it doesn't require those traits - because the faithful can win.

Except, as Joe demonstrated in Celebrity Traitors, it is vital not just to correctly identify the traitor(s) but also to be able to persuade others that you are correct. It’s particularly relevant with the rise of political demagogues, who set out to persuade others that they alone know the correct solution to the country's problems.

Not if a faithful wins 🤷🏼‍♀️

It’s a game, literally a game played between consenting adults. They know going in to it that someone will be lying. It’s hardly deception when they’ve all agreed that some of them will be lying. That to me is why it feels quite wholesome and a great family programme. Unlike some other reality TV shows where there are often examples of poor behaviour which isn’t necessary and more damaging to society ( for example, Love Island and the misogyny/gaslighting).
Traitors is literally just a party game on a huge scale.

Those selected to be traitors are just acting. It’s not real life and if you watch them being interviewed afterwards they’re all friends and often nice people.

Just because they are playing a faithful doesn't mean they don't win by using sociopathic abilities to manipulate how other people behave. You can't win anything worth a lot of money or power in this world by being "nice".

Last year two faithful won.

See post above yours.

Exactly - in my mind it shows what happens when people get power. Across the board!

What do you think business is? Manipulation and profit driven gains.

Those selected to be traitors are just acting. It’s not real life and if you watch them being interviewed afterwards they’re all friends and often nice people.

You don't seem to realise how many people in day to day life are acting.

'Would i lie to you' has been going for I think 17 years now. YOU MUST NEVER WATCH IT, OP

Not usually presented as harmless light entertainment for family viewing. Usually feted and rewarded only when the person creates lots of jobs and/or lots of tax. Imprisoned when the same skills are used against vulnerable people.

There is no prize money on WILTY. The scale of the prize money changes everything.

In my experience it mimics real life in many ways eg I’ve also found that the workplace is full of faithfuls who are honest hard working team players and some traitors (natural ones) that are out for themselves and will walk over anyone and do anything to achieve their goal. Many of these seems to think it’s normal behaviour!

Perhaps it will help some people realise that actually it’s a bit like real life but done for fun in a castle. Perhaps it might be an eye opener for some to understand that everyone isn’t always who they appear to be.

I think you are taking it much too seriously, OP. It is a GAME SHOW, not a documentary on how people can be duplicitous! It's fun and entertaining, and, as a PP said, it has got whole families sitting down to watch it together and talk about it, which must be a good thing.

WTF does that have to do with a TV game show I’m specifically watching for entertainment? People who have zero impact on my life other than some light family entertainment and discussion in the pub with my friends?

You realise it’s a highly curated television show don’t you? People aren’t really walking around in green cloaks murdering people in plain sight. Although my son did go to his school Halloween party as a Traitor but no murders were reported so I think we’re all good.

Exactly. There is now research that women are more susceptible to gambling and excessive spending just before their periods and we should all be worried that if business get hold of our cycles we will be targeted at those times because we are vulnerable. It is cut throat and using less people and more AI by the minute (so bye to any jobs)

Partly correct.
I watched each episode up til ast night ( although scrolling on my phone in the bits I found particularly tiresome). And I get it.
So now I can say with confidence that it is ( in my opinion) unmitigated shit TV.

(Edit to add this is the first of the series I've watched so far)

Sorry, what point am I missing?

It's a game.