To wonder if anyone has or is considering moving to a country that's less likely to be involved if Putin attacks a NATO country. (title edited by MNHQ at request of OP)

[Carla786]

I hope that if WW3 happened, I'd be brave enough to stay and fight. I love Britain & I'd hate to leave it or see it invaded by Putin.

However, at the same time I'm wondering about the recent rush of articles suggesting conflict with Russia is inevitable by around 2030 and that civilians need to prepare to be conscripted to fight if NATO is attacked. I'd always thought Britain being land-invaded was fairly unlikely, but being called up to fight in a NATO war widens the options of what might happen.

Countries that are less likely to be involved include Austria, Switzerland, New Zealand, Republic of Ireland. I don't particularly want to move to any of these. If call-ups are likely to be imminent in about 4 years, I don't know..

The country I've always thought I'd move to if I did move is Poland (where I have family ties)- but of course that's far more likely to be involved in a potential war!

Another one is Iceland.

No never think about it.

Don’t even think about Russia much. More interested in the little coal tit that landed on my bird feeder.

Nah.

May I ask what food you are using? I am not sure I am offering best selection at the moment.

Also some squirrels live in trees at the back - so I might need to check the feeders!

I can't see how any European country would be 'less involved' to be honest.

New Zealand maybe.

Dh gets it off Amazon. Just the little balls.

Always get loads of squirrels too💕

Nauru maybe Micronesia? Iceland is right next to Greenland!

Nope, never crosses my mind at all. What will be will be.

Can you just rock up to another country and move in?

Sounds too easy to me.

Anyway no, despite the fact I'd get an Irish passport if I applied for one, I'm quite happy in the UK.

Couldn't you have told us this without insulting the size of his testicles?

No I wouldn't. I'm not uprooting my entire life and family just in case, plus it's not just as easy as thinking you want to move and doing it, most countries have criteria you have to meet before you can move there.

If WW3 breaks out and things go bad life probably won't be worth living anyway.

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I feel this one sets the standard - but it is good to have something to aspire to.

Maybe that couple met watching birds...

Ireland, Switzerland & Austria have all fairly long traditions of neutrality.

Moreover, Switzrlerland is not a NATO member, nor is Austria or Ireland.

No

Agree on the first part re difficulty of moving.

Pessimistic to assume WW3 would mean a nuclear or similar Armageddon though. It's more likely that Putin will attack a NATO country & Britain would have to contribute troops, which they have said will mean conscription of civilians. Land invasion of Britain is less likely.

Yeah but can you just turn up with your suitcase and family and tell them you're moving in?

Of course not, I meant immigration etc

Of course you'd need to immigrate properly.

Well if ww3 happened would anyone be around to do anything about it?

I just think it is another thing for people who always need something to worry about, it is like a revolving door if it is not this there will be something else to worry about

I'm still sceptical of Trump invading.

Who knows, though?

'Immigration etc'. 🤣🤣🤣

Step away from the Internet, your life will be so much healthier.

It's unlikely nuclear bombs would be the first thing on the cards.

Much more likely Putin might try to invade a NATO member like Poland or Lithuania and NATO would have to contribute troops. They have said this would need to include conscripting civilians.

I won't be conscripted but my kids could be which is a terrifying thought. I suppose we've just got to hope it doesn't get to that.

I get people thinking this is scaremongering and I do think there's definitely an element of this in the media.

However, there does seem to be stronger indications in the media now that Russia attacking NATO is edging closer to 'when' rather than 'if'.

This article is from the DM, otoh the person discussing would be expected to hopefully know something about the situation:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15383455/dangerous-situation-Defence-chief-speech-Putin.html

Britain's military chief will warn on Monday that the nation is facing the most 'dangerous time' he has known during his career.

As the threat from Russia grows, Chief of the Defence Staff Sir Richard Knighton will say the whole country needs to 'step up' to stave off Vladimir Putin's aggression.

Following concerns about the danger posed by Russia to Nato, Sir Richard will make the case for a society-wide approach to 'defence and deterrence'. He will call on civilians to help build national resilience to ensure the UK functions in a crisis.

In a speech at the Royal United Services Institute in Whitehall on Monday, he is expected to say: 'Our Armed Forces always need to be ready to fight and win – that's why readiness is such a priority.

'But deterrence is also about our resilience to these threats... how we harness all our national power, from universities, to industry, the rail network to the NHS. It's about our defence and resilience being a higher national priority for all of us. An "all-in" mentality.

'That will require people who are not soldiers, sailors or aviators to nevertheless invest their skills, and money, in innovation and problem-solving on the nation's behalf.'

Sir Richard will warn that Russia's leadership has made its wish to 'challenge, limit, divide and ultimately destroy Nato' clear. On the threats faced by Britain, he will say: 'The situation is more dangerous than I have known during my career, and the response requires more than simply strengthening our Armed Forces.

I've got some better articles outlining the likely risks which I'll link in a minute.

Tuvalu?