To ask when Reform supporters will

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finally see the light about Farage? As the article says, if he will do this for £98 without thinking or a few seconds of research, what else is he capable of? The man is, IMHO, amoral, greedy and surprisingly stupid.

Tw: this mentions the hideous crimes of Watkins.

https://metro.co.uk/2026/01/15/i-tricked-nigel-farage-hailing-ian-watkins-tells-him-26308517/

And you are absolutely certain -absolutely certain - that you would feel exactly the same way if the Tories had done the same thing in 2023? You would be 100% OK with the 'short postponement' and would not at all think it was because the Tories were running scared?
Or would you accuse them of interfering with democracy to suit their own ends?
Only you know the answer to that, but I imagine I could have a good guess.

It’s something that has happened before. Not only would I be ok with it, I was ok with it when it happened as detailed below (AI summary, sorry, but I did have a quick check and in any case can remember it happening). The fact people are outraged - and in your case apparently unaware it happened under the last government - demonstrates how media are driving this. They’ve gone on and on about these but never mentioned the occasions in the past.

Starmer welcomed an anti white,anti semite into the country for free; i don't think Farage will get everything done he says,and dobt particularly trust him,but i think he believes what he says more often than ks.

The majority of council elections are going ahead as are the Wesh and Scottish elections. 27 councils requesting (so far)a delay until 2027 is not much of an attempt to subvert democracy.

But I can understand why Reform might be worried in the same way I understand why Farage keeps pushing the idea of an early GE. ⏰️🕰⏱️

Because he does this one thing wothout due care (and I agree he should have - but there’s been a change since) you don’t trust anything he says? And you trust someone you know for a fact will lie for £98 more? I don’t understand how that works.

Good one. Next you’ll be telling me that the deputy mayor of Basildon really was doing wrist exercises for her carpal tunnel syndrome.

21 out of 29 councils requesting a delay are Labour. Thank goodness most people are not as credulous as the government seems to think.

And what about these ones that postponed under a Tory government? Why was that?

I wouldn’t vote Reform, but let’s face it, previous Tory governments have been awful, and this lot in power are dreadful. 🤷‍♀️

But, Reform will win the next election I’d imagine.

Also appalling, what’s your point?

Cancelling elections should not be within the gift of a government of any colour.

It doesn’t help that this story seems to be completely ignored by most of the media, including the BBC. You’d expect constant coverage, it would have ruined pretty much any other politician. Ditto the story about the former UKIP MEP being convicted of taking bribes from Russia… Where did that story even get reported? It’s just insane. He clearly has the right connections and will likely win the next GE as a result.

This story gets played off as being the silly mistakes of a teenager, as if we were all massive racists as teens who told Jews they should have been gassed ffs. He enrages me.

Farage has said if Reform win in Wales and Scotland, then they will win a GE.

It is not looking good for Reform right now. Farage seems to be struggling to find candidates.

Nothing has been cancelled. Postponed until 2027 does not equal cancelled.

What I don't understand is why people go on about polling. Yes right now Reform are polling well. But at national level Labour has a majority of about 160MPs. The only way to force a General Election is for the opposition to propose and win a vote of no confidence. For that to happen, All the opposition party MPs of every 'flavour" plus about 80 Labour MPs would have to vote for the motion. If as everyone on here says Labour will be trounced and out of office, are many Labour MPs really going to vote themselves out of a job?? Botton line Reform have to keep up momentum for about another three and a half years and I don't think they will be able to.

It’s not cancellation, it’s postponement to save time and money and because turnout at local elections is always poor but having two elections in quick succession would mean it would be even worse. It’s postponement until the council is reorganised and is requested by the council not enforced by the government. Cancelling elections is bad. Postponing for a short time for sensible reasons is…well…sensible.

Yes indeed, totally backed his own words in Jenrick as a recent example.
Also fairly recently he must have believed he knew Ian Watkins and he was a good guy - oops sorry tricked.
He believed in our fishing industry but couldn’t plan anything or even turn up at the relevant EU fisheries committees.
He believed in Brexit - a Norwegian style one, a great deal one, a no deal one - anyway we got the ‘wrong’ one he believes that.
I do agree he is genuinely racist but this is the bit he actually tries to play down instead of stating clearly.
Doesn’t matter how hard he believes in stopping immigration completely, well not all of it now he says - or in stopping the small boats, well again not that easy he says now - he is incapable of actually doing so, and this video just reiterated to me that he’s barely capable of doing anything properly, even a small time grift.

Does Farage have good communication skills though?

His communication skills rely on him hammering home the same message over and over again, without nuance, without changing his method to appeal to different listeners, without subtlety.

Whatever his message I wouldn't find him appealing. He has a beef faced, hectoring, relentless quality that is common in people with no empathy, a mean spirit, no view of a broader picture and a complete dismissal of people he thinks of as lesser/other. His message does not appeal to people who dislike that kind of brute faced 'he says it how he is' stance.

13 u turns,and saying we "shouldnt say"only women can have a cervix: yeah, I distrust him

How can you trust a party full of Turncoats- surely a huge question mark over them having the courage of their convictions?

Thank you for your honest reply.

Yes, and I also hear tractor production is up. 🙄

Postponing for a short time for sensible reasons is…well…sensible

Why do you have a problem with the above statement @Vinvertebrate ?

2,186 local elections were cancelled when the Tories were in charge for a very sensible reason.

And Hitler was also an incredible communicator. What’s your point?

It is easy to communicate a negative message, one that almost entirely feeds on negativity and fear.

It's another to have to come up with solutions, budgets and strategies. Farage never does that. When he has to tell people that their taxes are going up to do the things he plans people will begin to notice that 'incredible communication' is all he can offer.

Nope I didn't say that, you were suggesting that anyone whose parents had been in the war couldn't possibly vote reform - or saying you couldn't understand how they could. I am giving you an example to show that it's not as black and white as that. It's not an "all" I am in no way saying my parents represent everyone.

Farage and Zack Polanski are both equally awful. I don't agree with Starmer's politics(not sure he even does) but I don't dislike him quite as much as them. I like Badenoch.