To ask when Reform supporters will

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finally see the light about Farage? As the article says, if he will do this for £98 without thinking or a few seconds of research, what else is he capable of? The man is, IMHO, amoral, greedy and surprisingly stupid.

Tw: this mentions the hideous crimes of Watkins.

https://metro.co.uk/2026/01/15/i-tricked-nigel-farage-hailing-ian-watkins-tells-him-26308517/

I can’t speak for anyone else, but personally I find NF almost as physically repulsive as Trump.

I think it's the vile personality shining through that makes them both so physically repulsive.

You may not like him. I don't. But his communications abilities dwarf those of the two "main" parties - altho' in Labour's case that is not a very high bar.

That just adds to it, IMO.

I knew there would be a "but Labour" post, though not quite so soon!

Farage is a good communicator, but I think this story reveals a lot about who he really is. I would hope his supporters might have at least a passing qualm after reading about his stupidity.

I have always had a visceral reaction of repulsion to Farage - way before Brexit - I do with Trump but weirdly not quite as much (close!) but maybe it’s due to the ocean between us.
Both are vile, and it baffles me why people find them a/charismatic and b/fit to be in charge of running a bath, let alone anything else.
Time was we valued integrity and honesty - whilst we are much more aware of the general and cross party failure to meet this bar, Farage falls so far, far below it I don’t understand his popularity at all.

So did Boris Johnson's, and look where that got us. See also Trump.

I'd genuinely like to hear from people planning to vote Reform. Does this story give you pause for thought at all?

......crickets.....

You'll be waiting a while if you think that anyone voting Reform is likely to engage critical thinking skills

Oh course he is a good communicator, he's a conman and a grifter. You've got to have the gift of the gab to fuck people over while getting them to tell you you're the next Messiah.

See I’m not sure about this - do they dwarf or make his lies completely irrelevant?
Also he isn’t good when challenged as you can see how irate he gets - Boris, as mentioned elsewhere, was a tad better in a way with handling challenges using bluster (though obviously same dire lies in the end).
He also doesn’t appear up to speed on anything nor bothered to check on it - you have to accept whatever he spouts or he isn’t interested in further discussion, even when he contradicts his own previous statements - which is bizarre.
I will acknowledge I cannot abide listening to him irate or not. And accept, though never understand, some do like listening to him - maybe as he says the things they didn’t used to dare to say and/or appeals to some supremacy type instinct - I don’t know.
I’m not the right poster here as the OP (and others including myself) are interested if anything changes the views on him - personally they just continue to confirm my views.

Integrity and honesty does not exist in politics. It doesn't matter which party and which leader. Hence the 13 u turns of Kier Starmer who can't tell the truth - or make a decision to save his life.

But what do you think of this story about Farage? Do you think he is fit for high office?

Yeah sure lesser of 2 evils isn’t an amazing thing. The communicarion of Hitler and Mussolini dwarfed other politicians. Your point is? Go watch Mussolini, a whole episode on YouTube on his amazing communication style. Seriously, how some have fallen and are being taken in by fake leaders. They are public servants, we aren’t supposed to fall for their communication style. That’s been done before and led to fascism.

plus like many other politicians he gets caught on lies over and over. Great communication style there

Could you list these u turns if you are going to use them to justify Farage’s lies (saying he knew the man) and stupidity (not checking the name) for a £98 payout? Because when I’ve seen them listed I wouldn’t class many of them as U turns, more tweaks to policy before it’s enacted.
Does Farage being so stupid and such a liar on such a matter give you any pause for thought at all?

You won't. They're all sucked into their own little social media echo chamber and won't hear about things like this.

They won't be reading the times / guardian / bbc / watching sky etc.

*they won't see the light even. In supermarket queue while replying...

Not a reform 'supporter' so my opinion would be redundant

MNHQ 'research' suggests about a fifth of PP are - obviously quite shy/silent support

Do you think posting links like this is going to change anyone’s mind?

The question was whether it would change anyone’s mind. Are you saying no, then? And not only that but obviously no? That a politician who claims to want to lead the country would lie (saying he knew someone well who he didn’t) and stupidly fail to check the name so he could earn £98 won’t make anyone think - wait a minute…?
That he has time to make these videos and do 11 jobs on top of (not) representing Clacton won’t make anyone wonder if he’s really in the job for the right reasons?
I mean, my opinion of Reform voters is low, but I didn’t think they were totally stupid and accepting of Farage taking the piss.

It's not the point. Votes for Reform at the next GE will be out of frustration from people who don't feel that politicians care about their views. What alternative do they have? Lab/Con would just be more of the same.

But Reform is now just Tory party rejects. How are they supposed to be different?

And Reform would be worse.
Actually people don’t seem to want to be listened to either. Every time Labour tweaks a policy before implementation based on feed back everyone shrieks about U-Turns and says they are hopeless.

Some of those u-turns were very welcome, would you rather he carried on regardless?
If people are against ID cards, isn't it better he stops now, rather than say Sunak on HS2, costing us £29bn instead.... before the U-turn?

Do you ever change your mind?

People, yes inc politicians, get things wrong, they aren't Gods.... even Farage u-turned on 20k income tax thresholds and cross channel migration...

He isn't even in power.

Starmer is finding out change is rather harder in practice than when in opposition, as would any new Govt.