To ask when Reform supporters will

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finally see the light about Farage? As the article says, if he will do this for £98 without thinking or a few seconds of research, what else is he capable of? The man is, IMHO, amoral, greedy and surprisingly stupid.

Tw: this mentions the hideous crimes of Watkins.

https://metro.co.uk/2026/01/15/i-tricked-nigel-farage-hailing-ian-watkins-tells-him-26308517/

What's the point in pussy footing around, it's true. If you think old Nigel is going to not f**k up like he did with Brexit, then someone needs to come along and prick your balloon of delusion!

I’m so sorry I think I’ve replied to the wrong post! 🤦‍♀️

Oh please stop derailing.
Thanks.

I didn't even vote for the Labour party but who in their right mind would vote for the hard right, don't you have any grandparents/great grandparents that fought in the second world war.

How anyone can fall for this culture war stuff and can't see it for the distraction and hate filled bilge that it is, is beyond me!

Depends on your definition of working I suppose. I read an article the other day that the net migration figure is falling largely due to a huge amount of emigration (Brits + EU), mainly youngish highish earners going somewhere where they aren't taxed so heavily and can afford to make a life for themselves. They are replaced here by relatively low paid immigrants. Not a great outlook but admittedly, I couldn't be bothered to check any of the stats.

I’m not left wing at all. Up until the last election I voted conservative. BUT I still find you deeply offensive. I am British, I was born here but my ethnicity or ethic origin is mainly African, if I am reading your posts correctly you don’t think that makes me British?

You seem to lack the courage of your convictions.

I should be removed and not speak until I am?

It’s quite Brass Eye isn’t it. If anyone remembers the cake episode . Had to google - David Amess was the mp but I keep seeing Bernard manning when I think I of it.

Any ethnicity from anywhere in the world can be British. Many millions from 196 countries are. Is that deeply offensive?

I’m very confused. You said KB wasn’t English/British (she is). Anyway, I’m going to stop engaging with you because I think you’re just on a wind up.

You can't 'drain the swamp' when Reform is basically the Tory party wirh a different manager.

Farage is very much part of the establishment and you would expect someone with his experience to pay attention to detail and make checks.

Mind you, he failed in that with his party's recruitment process.

Genuinely want to understand why? I do think immigration needs addressing, but in a controlled and managed way to address impacts on sectors like care, universities etc. Not a hate filled vile way
But I dont think that doing so would magically fix all our country's problems, and would cause some issues as well. So there are much bigger issues to address. Why is this your only issue? At any cost?

I said she isn't English.
She isn't English

This is based on the government ethnicity definitions in use for over 40 years and agreed with ethnic groups other than the English Scots Irish and Welsh in the country. These definitions were introduced for the benefit of immigrant groups.

https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/style-guide/ethnic-groups/

Do you think she ticked the white English box?

Do the white English exist as an ethnic group in your opinion? Do you consider these government definitions are a wind up?

At no point have I ever said she isn't British. Anyone from anywhere in the world, even people like the Egyptian criminal that hates white people and had never been to Britain in his 40 odd years of life until 26th December 2026 can be British.

But that attitude doesn’t work/change people’s behaviour.

It’s the same as saying - how can anyone let themselves get so fat that they get diabetes and they are slowly killing themself.

if because of your economic circumstances /where you live , the majority of your interactions with people with brown skin is negative then that is what you will think of. My dad’s dad was in the war, my dad was still racist as is my mum. People don’t look at the big picture they are parochial. Calling them thick and uneducated will not change that.

So because your grandparents were racist as they couldn't stand diversity, everybody's grandparents in the same circumstances must have been racist, that doesn't even make any logical sense.

So…what ethnicity should she have selected to be considered British/English? She’ll have selected African possibly. That’s not saying she is a citizen of Africa, which isn’t a country. You can be African in ethnicity but British/English by citizenship- and that makes you as British as anyone else with that citizenship. You merely show your own racism more clearly.

You didn’t mention ethnicity. You said they couldn’t find anyone English (I presume you meant British, or do you also think Welsh/Scottish/NI politicians shouldn’t be PM?). That’s not an ethnicity.

It’s a postponement. A short one. And requested by the council, not the government. Councils of different political majorities have requested it, as it happens. It’ll save millions of pounds.

I can think of another famous leader who was very well known for his communications abilities, that certainly didn’t mean he was a good leader for Germany and look what happened when he was in charge!

Once more. Nigerian is not an ethnicity. She could have (I don’t know whether she does) dual nationality. Doesn’t make her less British.
Dies make me wonder whether ‘English’ in your original post was deliberate though rather than lazy thinking. It wouldn’t surprise me if you didn’t want anyone from the other nations in charge either.

Surely the answer is for the council to explain why they think the value for money option is to postpone the election (which few ever bothered to vote in) but then add the cost of the election people are demanding, to the Council Tax bill....

Put your money where you mouth is.......

I wonder how many would then still want an additional election?

I worry that, much like in America, it will embolden people to start to display views and behaviours they’ve previously kept a lid on in public. I fear for people like me it will be a more hostile environment whereas I genuinely don’t feel I’ve ever really experienced genuine racism, well not overtly.

No it doesnt.
Someone else needs to get their shit together and government the country or Nigel will be prime minister

Can this economy cope with a second hit of Nigel's wisdom, 8% reduction in GDP and 12-18% fall in investment into he country since 2016, the voters were warned about the years of economic decline but still voted for him! Why would anyone contemplate round two of that shit show!

@Vinvertebrate Tory councils have also asked to postpone elections. Do you know the reasons why?