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PandoraSocks · 16/01/2026 10:23

finally see the light about Farage? As the article says, if he will do this for £98 without thinking or a few seconds of research, what else is he capable of? The man is, IMHO, amoral, greedy and surprisingly stupid.

Tw: this mentions the hideous crimes of Watkins.

https://metro.co.uk/2026/01/15/i-tricked-nigel-farage-hailing-ian-watkins-tells-him-26308517/

Nigel Farage ‘tricked into paying tribute to Ian Watkins’

It cost £98 for The Reform UK leader to film the clip on his Cameo account

https://metro.co.uk/2026/01/15/i-tricked-nigel-farage-hailing-ian-watkins-tells-him-26308517/

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Goldenbear · 18/01/2026 12:21

Hereforthecommentz · 18/01/2026 10:20

Tweeks!! You should be his press secretary. You could just look up yourself a quick Google search came up with several articles.

  1. The grooming gangs inquiry in June 2025
  2. Winter fuel payment cuts in June 2025
  3. Welfare cuts in June 2025
  4. Two-child benefit cap in November 2025
  5. Inheritance tax on farmers in December 2025
  6. Business rates for pubs in January 2026
  7. Digital ID in January 2026
And these are the pre-election promises that Starmer has broken too:
  1. Debt definition in October 2024
  2. Waspi Women in December 2024
  3. Transgender rights in April 2025
  4. Effective income tax hike in November 2025
  5. Employment Rights Bill concessions in December 2025

I am relieved at least on his u turn on digital ID. Perhaps he realised that would be the nail in the coffin. Stopping elections because they know they aren't going to win and arresting people for tweets is way worse but people have FDS. I dont particularly like Farrage, Zia is much better. The world is laughing at us. Andy Burnham would be a much better and sensible choice it you want any chance of not getting battered at the next election. People is glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

The world is laughing at the UK, I think their aghast at another country at the moment, why the heck would any sentient being look at the U.S. and want that over here in the form of Reform! Farage brought us Brexit, the overall divorce bill of which is around 37.2 billion, we will be paying it off until 2065 and for what reason so we could be our own little 'powerful' Island, in charge of our destiny! Who the heck looks at that divorce bill and thinks, 'I know what would be a great idea, voting for Farage to be the PM of our country (making me even bloody poorer!)!

cardibach · 18/01/2026 14:31

Hereforthecommentz · 18/01/2026 10:20

Tweeks!! You should be his press secretary. You could just look up yourself a quick Google search came up with several articles.

  1. The grooming gangs inquiry in June 2025
  2. Winter fuel payment cuts in June 2025
  3. Welfare cuts in June 2025
  4. Two-child benefit cap in November 2025
  5. Inheritance tax on farmers in December 2025
  6. Business rates for pubs in January 2026
  7. Digital ID in January 2026
And these are the pre-election promises that Starmer has broken too:
  1. Debt definition in October 2024
  2. Waspi Women in December 2024
  3. Transgender rights in April 2025
  4. Effective income tax hike in November 2025
  5. Employment Rights Bill concessions in December 2025

I am relieved at least on his u turn on digital ID. Perhaps he realised that would be the nail in the coffin. Stopping elections because they know they aren't going to win and arresting people for tweets is way worse but people have FDS. I dont particularly like Farrage, Zia is much better. The world is laughing at us. Andy Burnham would be a much better and sensible choice it you want any chance of not getting battered at the next election. People is glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

That’s 12. The only one you coukd maybe call a u turn is WFA because it was implemented and then changed. The others were things that the government said it would like to do but which were changed by discussion and feedback before implementation. That’s not U Turning. That’s how Parliament is supposed to work, otherwise we could send everybody but the cabinet home for 5 years. They are supposed to have input.
The grooming gang inquiry is particularly not a u turn. They said they didn’t th8nk there needed to be another but put an expert to look into it, saying they’d do what she said. She initially advised it probably wasn’t productive, then when she looked closer she uncovered things which made her think it was, so her advice changed. They followed it, as they said they would.
Taking advice and changing your mind about things is neither ‘u turning’ not wrong it’s actually pretty sensible.
I’m pretty sure there are no actual manifesto commitments that have been abandoned.

MandingoAteMyBaby · 18/01/2026 14:44

Farage represents the wishes of oligarch lobbyists. Not ordinary people.

Putting him in Clacton was taking the piss out of the people there as he does not care for them at all. He’s going to WEF in Davos - what the tits does that have to do with Clacton ?

The guy represents billionaires, appears to have taken Russian money, and is absolutely not working in the interests of the people of Clacton or even the UK as a whole.

Anyone voting for his party is voting against British interests.

beguilingeyes · 18/01/2026 17:43

He's such a great communicator he chickened out of appearing on the BBC this morning and sent his Mini-Me instead.

Clavinova · 19/01/2026 21:12

Goldenbear · 18/01/2026 12:21

The world is laughing at the UK, I think their aghast at another country at the moment, why the heck would any sentient being look at the U.S. and want that over here in the form of Reform! Farage brought us Brexit, the overall divorce bill of which is around 37.2 billion, we will be paying it off until 2065 and for what reason so we could be our own little 'powerful' Island, in charge of our destiny! Who the heck looks at that divorce bill and thinks, 'I know what would be a great idea, voting for Farage to be the PM of our country (making me even bloody poorer!)!

Farage brought us Brexit, the overall divorce bill of which is around 37.2 billion, we will be paying it off until 2065

The Brexit divorce bill is considerably less than our budget contributions would have been until 2065. Your argument as it is, is flawed.

Some figures here put the divorce bill nearer to £30 billion (after deducting £6.7 billion owed to us);
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8822/

During the transition period in 2020, the UK was still a member of the single market, customs union and EU programmes, so we paid into the EU budget as if we were a member state (£8.9 billion net for 2020 - included in the divorce bill). If we had remained a member of the EU we would have paid that amount anyway and similar amounts (or more) for 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024 and 2025 (over £53 billion 2020 - 2025).

According to This is Money, October 2025, a bit less than £6 billion of the divorce bill remains to be paid, mostly covering pensions to 2065.

(NB We are making other payments to the EU, e.g. for membership of Horizon)

placemats · 19/01/2026 23:59

Clavinova · 19/01/2026 21:12

Farage brought us Brexit, the overall divorce bill of which is around 37.2 billion, we will be paying it off until 2065

The Brexit divorce bill is considerably less than our budget contributions would have been until 2065. Your argument as it is, is flawed.

Some figures here put the divorce bill nearer to £30 billion (after deducting £6.7 billion owed to us);
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8822/

During the transition period in 2020, the UK was still a member of the single market, customs union and EU programmes, so we paid into the EU budget as if we were a member state (£8.9 billion net for 2020 - included in the divorce bill). If we had remained a member of the EU we would have paid that amount anyway and similar amounts (or more) for 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024 and 2025 (over £53 billion 2020 - 2025).

According to This is Money, October 2025, a bit less than £6 billion of the divorce bill remains to be paid, mostly covering pensions to 2065.

(NB We are making other payments to the EU, e.g. for membership of Horizon)

What happened to this money that was promised to the NHS. Infamous Brexit slogan on the bus.

"We send the EU £350 million a week – let's fund our NHS instead,"

Alexandra2001 · 20/01/2026 06:49

Clavinova · 19/01/2026 21:12

Farage brought us Brexit, the overall divorce bill of which is around 37.2 billion, we will be paying it off until 2065

The Brexit divorce bill is considerably less than our budget contributions would have been until 2065. Your argument as it is, is flawed.

Some figures here put the divorce bill nearer to £30 billion (after deducting £6.7 billion owed to us);
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8822/

During the transition period in 2020, the UK was still a member of the single market, customs union and EU programmes, so we paid into the EU budget as if we were a member state (£8.9 billion net for 2020 - included in the divorce bill). If we had remained a member of the EU we would have paid that amount anyway and similar amounts (or more) for 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024 and 2025 (over £53 billion 2020 - 2025).

According to This is Money, October 2025, a bit less than £6 billion of the divorce bill remains to be paid, mostly covering pensions to 2065.

(NB We are making other payments to the EU, e.g. for membership of Horizon)

Well, at least we'd have been getting something for our contributions, right now all we are doing is harming ourselves, poor trade deal or no better than what we had before.
The big hope of Brexitiers, like you, trade with the USA in tatters and trade in volume down with the EU and costing us all.

China just as protectionist and a damaging deal with Australia.

Horizon? Yes paying in, no say on its direction.
No access to higher level criminal data bases and now subject to very strict border controls.. more delay, more cost for the public and business.

Hereforthecommentz · 28/01/2026 16:30

Goldenbear · 18/01/2026 12:21

The world is laughing at the UK, I think their aghast at another country at the moment, why the heck would any sentient being look at the U.S. and want that over here in the form of Reform! Farage brought us Brexit, the overall divorce bill of which is around 37.2 billion, we will be paying it off until 2065 and for what reason so we could be our own little 'powerful' Island, in charge of our destiny! Who the heck looks at that divorce bill and thinks, 'I know what would be a great idea, voting for Farage to be the PM of our country (making me even bloody poorer!)!

You are correct the world is laughing at the UK at the moment. They think it's a fascist country that arrests people for tweets. The quicker we get rid of this demonic labour government the better.

Hereforthecommentz · 28/01/2026 16:34

MandingoAteMyBaby · 18/01/2026 14:44

Farage represents the wishes of oligarch lobbyists. Not ordinary people.

Putting him in Clacton was taking the piss out of the people there as he does not care for them at all. He’s going to WEF in Davos - what the tits does that have to do with Clacton ?

The guy represents billionaires, appears to have taken Russian money, and is absolutely not working in the interests of the people of Clacton or even the UK as a whole.

Anyone voting for his party is voting against British interests.

Voting for Kier who supports Muslim terrorists is good for British security is it?! You people are so wound up you can't see with your own eyes thus country has been destroyed by left wing ideology.

PandoraSocks · 28/01/2026 20:48

Hereforthecommentz · 28/01/2026 16:34

Voting for Kier who supports Muslim terrorists is good for British security is it?! You people are so wound up you can't see with your own eyes thus country has been destroyed by left wing ideology.

Destroyed by left wing ideology? Do you know which party has been in power for most of the past 16 years?

Which Muslim terrorists does Starmer support?

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NewspaperTaxis · 28/01/2026 20:59

I find it quite irrational the kind of hatred Labour is getting, given the mess the Tories made when they looted the public purse.

MandingoAteMyBaby · 28/01/2026 22:27

Hereforthecommentz · 28/01/2026 16:34

Voting for Kier who supports Muslim terrorists is good for British security is it?! You people are so wound up you can't see with your own eyes thus country has been destroyed by left wing ideology.

When has Britain had a left-wing government ?

Which Muslim terrorist does Starmer “support” ?

What a weird post.

beguilingeyes · 29/01/2026 04:35

Now that Reform has become a retirement home for (especially ) shit Tories how can anyone take them seriously?
Jacob Rees Mogg next?

Vinvertebrate · 29/01/2026 12:07

PandoraSocks · 28/01/2026 20:48

Destroyed by left wing ideology? Do you know which party has been in power for most of the past 16 years?

Which Muslim terrorists does Starmer support?

Presumably PP was referring to the Alaa Abd al Fattah case and the fact that it was Keith’s “top priority”? I’m no Reform fangirl, but that was an epicly fucking stupid thing to say, even by Labour’s standards.

PandoraSocks · 29/01/2026 12:25

Vinvertebrate · 29/01/2026 12:07

Presumably PP was referring to the Alaa Abd al Fattah case and the fact that it was Keith’s “top priority”? I’m no Reform fangirl, but that was an epicly fucking stupid thing to say, even by Labour’s standards.

El-Fattah is a scumbag and Starmer fucked up. But I think it is a stretch to call El-Fattah a terrorist.

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PandoraSocks · 29/01/2026 12:27

What is it that attracts racists to Reform?

www.lbc.co.uk/article/nigel-farage-urged-suspend-reform-mike-manning-5HjdRYx_2/

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bemoresloth · 29/01/2026 12:29

PandoraSocks · 29/01/2026 12:25

El-Fattah is a scumbag and Starmer fucked up. But I think it is a stretch to call El-Fattah a terrorist.

Starmer is not the only person to have fucked up with this case.

PandoraSocks · 29/01/2026 12:30

bemoresloth · 29/01/2026 12:29

Starmer is not the only person to have fucked up with this case.

Yep.

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5128gap · 29/01/2026 12:38

surreygirly · 16/01/2026 13:17

Whatever
People have just had enough of immigration especially illegal
That will be the biggest issue at the next election
I have always voted Labour
They have totally fksd the economy
Increased cost of living
Increased unemployment
Increased taxes
Done zip about migration
So I will give reform a try

What plans do Reform have that will reduce the cost of living, reduce unemployment, reduce taxes and repair the economy? Presumably they have set out a very clear strategy for achieving these things that has convinced you?

bemoresloth · 29/01/2026 12:39

A couple of Reform councillors posted support for ICE ( I stand with ICE) after the killings of Renee Good and Alex Pretti

ThatCyanCat · 29/01/2026 13:03

I do wonder if the only answer is for them to get voted in, fuck up the NHS, benefits, all the migration we do need, huge authoritarianism and so on, so people can see what they really stand for, and then get voted out again having done damage it'll take God knows how long to fix. Assuming we will be able to vote them out, of course.

NewspaperTaxis · 29/01/2026 13:33

There is an argument that some parties will say whatever they want to get into power - once there they can systematically loot the public purse with impunity.

To get there - well, you offer the public what they want. Which sounds fair enough. But it's like the woman who lifts up her skirt to show a bit of leg to your husband. She may not fancy him but she knows what she wants - your house. And she knows what buttons to push to get it.

I mean, Johnson's promise of 40 hospitals or however many it was; nonsense but it tapped into that idea of 'Well, he wouldn't say it if it couldn't happen'.

Johnson's Tories just looted the public purse as far as I can see - that was the point of being in power. I haven't seen that from Labour, the carping against them is all of a kind - oh, she didn't fill out the correct form etc

Farage is recruiting many of Johnson's Cabinet to his party to offer Reform 'experience' - but as his mate Trump said of Hilary Clinton, it's not good experience, is it.

Clavinova · 29/01/2026 20:22

PandoraSocks · 29/01/2026 12:27

To be fair, Labour are no better - headline two days ago;

27 January 2026
The 'vile' and 'racist' WhatsApp messages sent by Labour Councillors

https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/labour-whatsapp-b2908817.html
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jan/27/labour-gorton-denton-byelection-campaign-councillors-whatsapp-chat

PandoraSocks · 29/01/2026 20:38

Clavinova · 29/01/2026 20:22

To be fair, Labour are no better - headline two days ago;

27 January 2026
The 'vile' and 'racist' WhatsApp messages sent by Labour Councillors

https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/labour-whatsapp-b2908817.html
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jan/27/labour-gorton-denton-byelection-campaign-councillors-whatsapp-chat

There are racists in every single political party, true enough.

But to be fair to Labour, its whole reason for existing is not based on hate and bigotry. Unlike Reform. And there are many criticisms that can be levelled at Starmer, but he isn't a racist. Unlike Farage.

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Clavinova · 29/01/2026 20:47

PandoraSocks · 29/01/2026 20:38

There are racists in every single political party, true enough.

But to be fair to Labour, its whole reason for existing is not based on hate and bigotry. Unlike Reform. And there are many criticisms that can be levelled at Starmer, but he isn't a racist. Unlike Farage.

And there are many criticisms that can be levelled at Starmer, but he isn't a racist. Unlike Farage

Why did Keir Starmer say Farage is not a racist? Is Starmer a liar?