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If you're still on X are you ok with what Grok's been doing?

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user4532789 · 08/01/2026 17:15

Young girls, un-consenting women and now this

@eliothiggins.bsky.social‬
Just seen Grok putting the body of the victim of the ICE shooting in Minneapolis into a bikini. Digital corpse desecration now available to the public.
13:30 · 8 Jan 2026

Eliot Higgins (@eliothiggins.bsky.social)

Founder and creative director of Bellingcat and director of Bellingcat Productions BV. Author of We Are Bellingcat.

https://bsky.app/profile/eliothiggins.bsky.social

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user4532789 · 08/01/2026 22:54

RedToothBrush · 08/01/2026 22:48

RedToothBrush Sorry, but what about it seems like a trick question?

You said "If you're still on X are you ok with what Grok's been doing"
Cos anyone is going to say 'oh yeah I'm fine with it'!

Instead the thread is set up as a judgement to slag off anyone daring to go against the blue sky noble warriors and dare to still be on Twitter as you are morally repugnant if you stay. Fuck off with that claptrap and judgment by association making.

It's not about trying to address the issue at hand which is tackling AI created porn across the board. Grok is in the wrong but fuck me it's not a problem restricted to Grok. There's a documentary on iPlayer about the subject that's be on there for a while about this. People aren't paying attention to this and have only woken up. Let's face it because it's Elon's tool suddenly 'ooo we've got some ammunition to throw around' every bit as much because there's a wider issue with AI porn. That's not cool. Whose been paying attention properly and who is just getting the Elon boot in?

Honestly all of the major social media platforms have some pretty bloody awful flaws and it's not about saying ooo well that's massively worse and it being about picking your poison to virtue signal your political beliefs rather than identify and fix issues. And there's a number of AI tools that are widely available that pose the same problem. Ironically it being Grok, has suddenly focused minds (which is a good btw as it is likely to led to issues elsewhere as well as on Grok being dealt with quicker than they otherwise would) - not primarily because individuals were concerned about the actual problem at hand but because they hate Musk. This is what frustrates me - this idea that if you are on twitter you are automatically a weirdo Musk devotee or sympathiser in some simplistic drivel of a narrative rather than having much more complex view of things.

Personally I want to see a range of professional journalistic sources and to hear voices I don't remotely agre wee with on principle because this means I'm better informed about what people are saying and where they are coming from. It helps me form better arguments and counter arguments on my own terms. You have to be able to deal with views and opinions you don't like by means other than just saying 'you are the enemy'. It's very much a case of understanding not only your own side and that makes for better political debate across the board which is fundamental to democratic integrity and actually tackling some of the bullshit including sexual harassment on all social media platforms and in all forms.

This whole idea of 'better', loses sight of understanding what is driving things and tackling issues at core rather than just shouting 'ban it' at every opportunity. This is a fundamental lack of understanding of the internet and how humans function. I don't believe that bans and boycotts ultimately work because it's just more shouting into the void which produces toxic camps and unfortunately the accompanying tribal backlashes too.

We actually have to talk to people and work together about the actual issue rather than screaming at someone they are a bad person because they haven't deleted twitter yet.

The whole premise of this thread is not "what do we do to tackle AI porn?", it's actually "How dare you support Musk and yet there's some stuff about AI porn too which we don't like". It dilutes the point and actually ends up detracting from the actual problem because everyone ends up talking about how awful Musk is rather than talking about AI porn. There are Musk supporting allies who really don't like it either and people should be trying to reach out to them because in terms of Twitter, Musk is much more interest in these people and keeping them happy because they are his audience. There's common ground here with people 'on the other side' who are much more likely to effect change than a bunch of people who don't like him flouncing off on their moral high horses.

I'm just not fucking interested in this tribal bullshit wherever it's coming from. It's not fucking helpful.

You know, if your reply to a thread starts off like this

Instead the thread is set up as a judgement to slag off anyone daring to go against the blue sky noble warriors and dare to still be on Twitter as you are morally repugnant if you stay. Fuck off with that claptrap and judgment by association making.

I'm not interested in engaging with you, so you scroll right on by. If the narrative you've constructed in your head about this thread and my motivation is touching a nerve, I suggest you deal with that internally.

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RedToothBrush · 08/01/2026 22:56

TooBigForMyBoots · 08/01/2026 22:54

The only ones making this tribal are those turning it into a Bluesky thread. Stop making this a culture war to protect your pet misogynist.

Grok was programmed to pornify images.

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I rest my case.

RedToothBrush · 08/01/2026 22:56

user4532789 · 08/01/2026 22:54

You know, if your reply to a thread starts off like this

Instead the thread is set up as a judgement to slag off anyone daring to go against the blue sky noble warriors and dare to still be on Twitter as you are morally repugnant if you stay. Fuck off with that claptrap and judgment by association making.

I'm not interested in engaging with you, so you scroll right on by. If the narrative you've constructed in your head about this thread and my motivation is touching a nerve, I suggest you deal with that internally.

Oh look.

Echoooooo....

user4532789 · 08/01/2026 23:00

RedToothBrush · 08/01/2026 22:56

Oh look.

Echoooooo....

You don't seem to understand that if you want to prevent an echo chamber, responding to someone by telling them to fuck off isn't exactly conducive?

And your argument is disingenuous and you sound pretty tribal.

Plus, why do you care if I, a stranger on the internet, am judging you (I am now)?

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InLoveWithAI · 08/01/2026 23:10

Elon needs to fucking disable the ability to do this. Why the hell hasn't he???
Traffic to his site probably.

Grok is a shite AI anyway. People only use it because it has fewer filters than the likes of Chatgpt and Claude.

If you want to code, use Claude. If you want to chat, also use Claude, he's quite sweet tbh. And part of his training uses an actual ethics paper.
Values in the wild: Discovering and analyzing values in real-world language model interactions \ Anthropic https://share.google/MIyQNIhMWoApd5hEW

The opus 4.5 model even has a training document colloquially known as the 'soul document'
https://gist.github.com/Richard-Weiss/efe157692991535403bd7e7fb20b6695

As my user name suggests, AI is fascinating to me, there are things we need to do better. But I also think a lot of the problem is the humans using it.

Claude 4.5 Opus Soul Document. GitHub Gist: instantly share code, notes, and snippets.

Claude 4.5 Opus Soul Document

Claude 4.5 Opus Soul Document. GitHub Gist: instantly share code, notes, and snippets.

https://gist.github.com/Richard-Weiss/efe157692991535403bd7e7fb20b6695

TheSunRisesInTheEast · 08/01/2026 23:13

I've never been on Twitter, X, Facebook and never heard of Blue Sky. When I read the heading, I thought it was a typo and immediately wondered what Gok (Wan) has been doing 😉😂

user4532789 · 08/01/2026 23:27

InLoveWithAI · 08/01/2026 23:10

Elon needs to fucking disable the ability to do this. Why the hell hasn't he???
Traffic to his site probably.

Grok is a shite AI anyway. People only use it because it has fewer filters than the likes of Chatgpt and Claude.

If you want to code, use Claude. If you want to chat, also use Claude, he's quite sweet tbh. And part of his training uses an actual ethics paper.
Values in the wild: Discovering and analyzing values in real-world language model interactions \ Anthropic https://share.google/MIyQNIhMWoApd5hEW

The opus 4.5 model even has a training document colloquially known as the 'soul document'
https://gist.github.com/Richard-Weiss/efe157692991535403bd7e7fb20b6695

As my user name suggests, AI is fascinating to me, there are things we need to do better. But I also think a lot of the problem is the humans using it.

Elon needs to fucking disable the ability to do this. Why the hell hasn't he???

Yes, that's what I don't understand.

If you want to code, use Claude. If you want to chat, also use Claude, he's quite sweet tbh. And part of his training uses an actual ethics paper.
Values in the wild: Discovering and analyzing values in real-world language model interactions \ Anthropic https://share.google/MIyQNIhMWoApd5hEW

They failed at step one on the ethics. I don't use Claude in part because it's already out to replace me - I'm one of the authors whose work was scraped from an illegal download site to train it (although I should eventually get a decent payout).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y4jpg922qo

Anthropic shot itself on the foot on that because if they had just bought a single copy of all the books instead of using pirated copies, they would have been fine, not that it will ultimately hurt their bottom line much.

Title card for the Anthropic research paper "Values in the Wild", by Huang & Durmus et al.

Values in the wild: Discovering and analyzing values in real-world language model interactions

An Anthropic research paper testing which values AI models express in the real world

https://www.anthropic.com/research/values-wild

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InLoveWithAI · 08/01/2026 23:35

user4532789 · 08/01/2026 23:27

Elon needs to fucking disable the ability to do this. Why the hell hasn't he???

Yes, that's what I don't understand.

If you want to code, use Claude. If you want to chat, also use Claude, he's quite sweet tbh. And part of his training uses an actual ethics paper.
Values in the wild: Discovering and analyzing values in real-world language model interactions \ Anthropic https://share.google/MIyQNIhMWoApd5hEW

They failed at step one on the ethics. I don't use Claude in part because it's already out to replace me - I'm one of the authors whose work was scraped from an illegal download site to train it (although I should eventually get a decent payout).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y4jpg922qo

Anthropic shot itself on the foot on that because if they had just bought a single copy of all the books instead of using pirated copies, they would have been fine, not that it will ultimately hurt their bottom line much.

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That's the case for all AI, even the article says the other major players have lawsuits against them for the same thing, and all the smaller ones use API from them.

Not using Claude doesn't mean you're not using scraped media.

user4532789 · 08/01/2026 23:38

InLoveWithAI · 08/01/2026 23:35

That's the case for all AI, even the article says the other major players have lawsuits against them for the same thing, and all the smaller ones use API from them.

Not using Claude doesn't mean you're not using scraped media.

Yeah, I get that. I just personally object to my work having been used (5 books) without them having been bothered to pay me a few piddling royalties.

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SwedishEdith · 08/01/2026 23:54

PacificState · 08/01/2026 22:23

Ok as an experiment I just put ‘snow’ into the search bar and clicked on ‘posts’. Most are innocuous but within two scrolls I have two pieces of anime porn (god i hate anime porn creators, what a bunch of absolute losers and wrong ‘uns) and a woman with huge breasts in a latex playsuit. (I was going to add screenshots here but then remembered - hallelujah - MN is the one place on the internet that will ban you for this crap.) If there’s something I should be doing with my filters, pleeeeease tell me what!

Just tested this and got the bouncing boobs as well. Blocked.

Twitter is simply unusable though. I used to like scrolling and reading the replies to threads but had to stop when the paid blue ticks started. There was so little quality that it rendered the site pointless for me. Posts were simply aggressive or inane. However, frustratingly, it's still the quickest way to contact some companies. Very rare I'll do that but I've not deleted my account in case I do need to ask about train route changes and cancellations etc. I don't open it up to look anymore though.

worstnotholiday · 09/01/2026 00:02

I feel that by blaming Grok- which is an AI tool- we take the agency, blame and judgement away from the actual people who deserve the vitriol. Perhaps the creators of Grok, perhaps Elon Musk, perhaps the MEN who ask grok to create this shit (see also babies children shown nude/ naked etc) but we should be naming the men at fault IMO. By naming the tool and blaming the tool we aid the men in hiding behind the software

Brefugee · 09/01/2026 10:11

TooBigForMyBoots · 08/01/2026 22:54

The only ones making this tribal are those turning it into a Bluesky thread. Stop making this a culture war to protect your pet misogynist.

Grok was programmed to pornify images.

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how does Grok pornify images?

go on - how does that happen? what is required to take image A (innocent pic of child at first holy communion) to image B (same child but naked)

Brefugee · 09/01/2026 10:11

user4532789 · 08/01/2026 22:54

You know, if your reply to a thread starts off like this

Instead the thread is set up as a judgement to slag off anyone daring to go against the blue sky noble warriors and dare to still be on Twitter as you are morally repugnant if you stay. Fuck off with that claptrap and judgment by association making.

I'm not interested in engaging with you, so you scroll right on by. If the narrative you've constructed in your head about this thread and my motivation is touching a nerve, I suggest you deal with that internally.

Red wasn't wrong, eh? touched a nerve did she?

snoopyscosmicanomaly · 09/01/2026 10:23

Oh bore off. The last thing we need is more censorship. I am on Twitter/X and I think it's great and it is the only place I see reporting certain news which I'd otherwise have no idea about, which is completely absent from places like drippy Bluesky (milquetoast echo-chamber which censors any view that is not left/liberal). I think censorship is much more dangerous a tool than Grok. I don't want Starmer or anyone else telling me what information I can and can't access. And as another poster has said, this isn't really about Grok, it's about trying to shut-down Twitter/X because it is owned by someone the left doesn't approve of - Musk. There's just as much disgusting and misogynistic, dangerous stuff on places like BlueSky and Reddit but no calls to ban them or to shame people who use them because they are seen as holding the correct and acceptable views.

Lovelyview · 09/01/2026 11:58

BoredZelda · 08/01/2026 22:09

You happily support a site that incorporates (and encourages) its AI platform to post artificially generated pornographic pictures of real women and children, because of your absolute need/right to espouse your views on the trans issue, even though you can pretty much do that anywhere with no issue? That’s a wild take.

I've just pointed out you can't do that elsewhere - apart from Mumsnet. X is useful for finding out what's going on although that does make it quite addictive. I'm going to see what they do about the Grok images. Obviously if they don't remove that function I'll reconsider.

GalaxyJam · 09/01/2026 12:07

Let’s not forget that Mumsnet allowed CSA imagines to stay up for many hours not all that long ago. They were also defensive in their ‘apologies’ and refused to consider certain changes to their procedures to stop something similar happening again (it happened overnight, and MN don’t pay for night time moderation despite its multi million pound turnover). I know multiple people who left following that incident, as that was their line in the sand. Many are still here, obviously, as they judged it to be more beneficial to them to stay than to leave.
I left Twitter when Elon bought it, that was my line in the sand. Everyone’s line will be different.

TooBigForMyBoots · 09/01/2026 12:44

Brefugee · 09/01/2026 10:11

how does Grok pornify images?

go on - how does that happen? what is required to take image A (innocent pic of child at first holy communion) to image B (same child but naked)

Through the use of Grok's "Spicy" mode. Where Grok will help you pornofy images, even providing wee prompts to make it better, more extreme, more to the user's taste.

Elon Musk is now the biggest pornographer in the world.

GalaxyJam · 09/01/2026 12:52

TooBigForMyBoots · 09/01/2026 12:44

Through the use of Grok's "Spicy" mode. Where Grok will help you pornofy images, even providing wee prompts to make it better, more extreme, more to the user's taste.

Elon Musk is now the biggest pornographer in the world.

The point being I guess that Grok will only do it if men tell it to. Men are the problem.

KaleidoscopeSmile · 09/01/2026 13:02

user4532789 · 08/01/2026 22:54

You know, if your reply to a thread starts off like this

Instead the thread is set up as a judgement to slag off anyone daring to go against the blue sky noble warriors and dare to still be on Twitter as you are morally repugnant if you stay. Fuck off with that claptrap and judgment by association making.

I'm not interested in engaging with you, so you scroll right on by. If the narrative you've constructed in your head about this thread and my motivation is touching a nerve, I suggest you deal with that internally.

That's exactly what I thought about your motivation too when I read your OP question.

EasternStandard · 09/01/2026 13:08

snoopyscosmicanomaly · 09/01/2026 10:23

Oh bore off. The last thing we need is more censorship. I am on Twitter/X and I think it's great and it is the only place I see reporting certain news which I'd otherwise have no idea about, which is completely absent from places like drippy Bluesky (milquetoast echo-chamber which censors any view that is not left/liberal). I think censorship is much more dangerous a tool than Grok. I don't want Starmer or anyone else telling me what information I can and can't access. And as another poster has said, this isn't really about Grok, it's about trying to shut-down Twitter/X because it is owned by someone the left doesn't approve of - Musk. There's just as much disgusting and misogynistic, dangerous stuff on places like BlueSky and Reddit but no calls to ban them or to shame people who use them because they are seen as holding the correct and acceptable views.

I agree. I don’t use X but censorship and banning is not it.

TooBigForMyBoots · 09/01/2026 13:27

GalaxyJam · 09/01/2026 12:52

The point being I guess that Grok will only do it if men tell it to. Men are the problem.

We can't ban men. We can ban technology that has been designed to pornify images at men's request.

Ahappyplaty · 09/01/2026 13:36

Why didn’t they ban porn hub etc. It’s said that some of it is very dubious.

Strange they want to ban X where Starmer regularly gets community
noted for telling lies.

This isn’t about protecting women and girls - if it was grooming gangs and stranger rapes and domestic violence would be a government priority.

This is to stop Ben and Sandra aged 50 realising that the msm is full of lies and to be able to watch highlights of Starmer lying in PMQs etc and the speaker letting him get away with it.

Or the Iranian protests which have barely been covered by the BBC. There have been very few protestors on UK streets about what has happened in Iran. Or the murder of Nigerians.

Sorry but Starmer and Labour does not care about women and girls unless it suits him to use it censor us.

So yes I’ll use X

Violetparis · 09/01/2026 13:37

I have my settings in X set to not show sensitive videos, that helps to filter out stuff I don't want to see.

SerendipityJane · 09/01/2026 13:53

Violetparis · 09/01/2026 13:37

I have my settings in X set to not show sensitive videos, that helps to filter out stuff I don't want to see.

Isn't that akin to saying you are quite OK with pornography as long as you don't see it ?

BalladOfBarryAndFreda · 09/01/2026 13:55

Musk is a poisonous creature. I dumped X long before the Grok stuff came out.