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If you're still on X are you ok with what Grok's been doing?

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user4532789 · 08/01/2026 17:15

Young girls, un-consenting women and now this

@eliothiggins.bsky.social‬
Just seen Grok putting the body of the victim of the ICE shooting in Minneapolis into a bikini. Digital corpse desecration now available to the public.
13:30 · 8 Jan 2026

Eliot Higgins (@eliothiggins.bsky.social)

Founder and creative director of Bellingcat and director of Bellingcat Productions BV. Author of We Are Bellingcat.

https://bsky.app/profile/eliothiggins.bsky.social

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GalaxyJam · 13/01/2026 15:00

VaxMerstappen · 13/01/2026 14:53

Comparing MN with a freely available tool that's used to undress girls and women, owned by an unhinged, ketamine-addled billionaire who has been attempting to create civil unrest in our country, is quite the leap!

I mean how many negative stories surrounding Twitter/Grok have there been over the last few years? It wasn't that long ago Grok was generating utterly vile anti semitic and racist bilge on demand, and now this? Along with clear evidence that the site has become home for all manner of far right idiots, trolls operating from foreign countries, and generally highly unpleasant individuals?

And still people turn a blind eye and continue to use it, for pretty flimsy reasons. At this stage, having an account on there is either tacit approval of everything it has become, or unashamed support of it.

Edited

Some people are shocked that anyone would continue to use a site that allowed CSA images to remain on it overnight and refuse to change their procedures to avoid it happening again due to £££… I know many women who left MN due to this.

GeneralPeter · 13/01/2026 15:06

VaxMerstappen · 13/01/2026 14:53

Comparing MN with a freely available tool that's used to undress girls and women, owned by an unhinged, ketamine-addled billionaire who has been attempting to create civil unrest in our country, is quite the leap!

I mean how many negative stories surrounding Twitter/Grok have there been over the last few years? It wasn't that long ago Grok was generating utterly vile anti semitic and racist bilge on demand, and now this? Along with clear evidence that the site has become home for all manner of far right idiots, trolls operating from foreign countries, and generally highly unpleasant individuals?

And still people turn a blind eye and continue to use it, for pretty flimsy reasons. At this stage, having an account on there is either tacit approval of everything it has become, or unashamed support of it.

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You are sounding quite similar to the anti-MN crew. We are a cesspit of vile bigots, who could only be using the site because we enjoy all the transphobic bilge. I’ve heard in fact that MN might be worse than X, you know, becuase of the wanting to erase the existence of an entire class of people. We also discuss the wrong things, in the wrong way, and have unapproved thoughts.

Somebody needs to get to the bottom of both of these travesties. Frankly I’m not sure why we even allow them to continue. Who’s for a ban?

bombastix · 13/01/2026 16:50

The reality is that everyone will dictate their moral choice. This is a matter of personal ethics which is different from legal requirements.

Morality and ethics are personal. The best you can say is that a person has thought the Issue through and has made an informed decision.

For me, and for anyone I care about, I think what X is doing to women and children is morally wrong. They are entitled to their dignity as not just sexual objects. There is something morally objectionable to the industrialization of women and children as the sexual objects of men, without consent.

EasternStandard · 13/01/2026 17:02

GeneralPeter · 13/01/2026 15:06

You are sounding quite similar to the anti-MN crew. We are a cesspit of vile bigots, who could only be using the site because we enjoy all the transphobic bilge. I’ve heard in fact that MN might be worse than X, you know, becuase of the wanting to erase the existence of an entire class of people. We also discuss the wrong things, in the wrong way, and have unapproved thoughts.

Somebody needs to get to the bottom of both of these travesties. Frankly I’m not sure why we even allow them to continue. Who’s for a ban?

People are often trying to get others off the internet, especially women. Stuff that.

Talkinpeace · 13/01/2026 17:04

Snapchat : extensively used for grooming and bullying and sexting to children

Roblox : notorious for paedophiles grooming children

Bluesky : has rather a problem with underage porn

Facebook : the home of racists, bigots and homophobes

Linkedin : full of men who send dick pics to women daft enough to leave messages open

Whatsapp : groups have been known to celebrate the rape and murder of women on videos - such that group shares had to be restricted

So, all you lovely people who say XTwitter is so vile
where are you going to go ?

What other current affairs / politics sites are shinier than shiny ?

GeneralPeter · 13/01/2026 17:22

@Talkinpeace

Quite. It’s two fundamentally different mindsets:

”Terrible things happen because we are human
vs
”Terrible things happen because they are bad

Both have their place. But far more horrors have arisen from the latter way of thinking than the former.

GeneralPeter · 13/01/2026 17:23

@bombastix I fully agree with you.

EasternStandard · 13/01/2026 17:35

Talkinpeace · 13/01/2026 17:04

Snapchat : extensively used for grooming and bullying and sexting to children

Roblox : notorious for paedophiles grooming children

Bluesky : has rather a problem with underage porn

Facebook : the home of racists, bigots and homophobes

Linkedin : full of men who send dick pics to women daft enough to leave messages open

Whatsapp : groups have been known to celebrate the rape and murder of women on videos - such that group shares had to be restricted

So, all you lovely people who say XTwitter is so vile
where are you going to go ?

What other current affairs / politics sites are shinier than shiny ?

On mn to tell other women how bad they are? Even though women posting on here chat about mild stuff and do not add to the men on internet issues.

Littlegreenbauble · 13/01/2026 17:56

I think it is an absolute disgrace. I'm amazed people would stay on it. Politicians schools etc. should be shut.

Littlegreenbauble · 13/01/2026 17:57

Talkinpeace · 13/01/2026 17:04

Snapchat : extensively used for grooming and bullying and sexting to children

Roblox : notorious for paedophiles grooming children

Bluesky : has rather a problem with underage porn

Facebook : the home of racists, bigots and homophobes

Linkedin : full of men who send dick pics to women daft enough to leave messages open

Whatsapp : groups have been known to celebrate the rape and murder of women on videos - such that group shares had to be restricted

So, all you lovely people who say XTwitter is so vile
where are you going to go ?

What other current affairs / politics sites are shinier than shiny ?

Shut down the lot.

Talkinpeace · 13/01/2026 18:26

Littlegreenbauble · 13/01/2026 17:57

Shut down the lot.

And this site ?

What is your criteria for shutting down a site ?
And what will you do about the sites people set up next ?

Add in Reddit and Telegram groups and low key discussion sites ?

The social media genie is out of the bottle. It will not go back in.

Littlegreenbauble · 13/01/2026 18:44

Talkinpeace · 13/01/2026 18:26

And this site ?

What is your criteria for shutting down a site ?
And what will you do about the sites people set up next ?

Add in Reddit and Telegram groups and low key discussion sites ?

The social media genie is out of the bottle. It will not go back in.

Hopefully making it ILLEGAL will mean that companies don't let it happen

If they don't abide by the rules shut it down. Shut the next one down. And the next.

I'm amazed at the laissez faire attitude

Talkinpeace · 13/01/2026 18:58

Littlegreenbauble · 13/01/2026 18:44

Hopefully making it ILLEGAL will mean that companies don't let it happen

If they don't abide by the rules shut it down. Shut the next one down. And the next.

I'm amazed at the laissez faire attitude

Making what illegal ?
Laws have to be specific.
and making things illegal does not always stop them happening, particularly with tech

so laws and rules need to be well written
(see also breast cancer support groups being censored by Facebook for sharing mastectomy posts)

Littlegreenbauble · 13/01/2026 19:05

Talkinpeace · 13/01/2026 18:58

Making what illegal ?
Laws have to be specific.
and making things illegal does not always stop them happening, particularly with tech

so laws and rules need to be well written
(see also breast cancer support groups being censored by Facebook for sharing mastectomy posts)

Legislation going thru about making images

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 13/01/2026 20:07

Littlegreenbauble · 13/01/2026 18:44

Hopefully making it ILLEGAL will mean that companies don't let it happen

If they don't abide by the rules shut it down. Shut the next one down. And the next.

I'm amazed at the laissez faire attitude

Do you understand that the UK government has no ability whatsoever to "shut down" US companies, but more than that, without identical laws in the US there is no way to compel US based companies to even comply with UK law, moreover, 1st Amendment actually protects their right to totally ignore the UK's demands.

You need to stay within the realms of what is actually possible, not just demand the impossible and accuse people of being "laissez faire" who actually do acknowledge reality.

bombastix · 13/01/2026 21:31

Hm. Well tbh the government needs to get on and legislate anyway. This was a fairly revealing episode in many ways, irrespective of bikinis

Littlegreenbauble · 13/01/2026 21:51

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 13/01/2026 20:07

Do you understand that the UK government has no ability whatsoever to "shut down" US companies, but more than that, without identical laws in the US there is no way to compel US based companies to even comply with UK law, moreover, 1st Amendment actually protects their right to totally ignore the UK's demands.

You need to stay within the realms of what is actually possible, not just demand the impossible and accuse people of being "laissez faire" who actually do acknowledge reality.

Wrong. US online social media companies operating in UK subject to UK law.

Talkinpeace · 13/01/2026 22:08

Littlegreenbauble · 13/01/2026 21:51

Wrong. US online social media companies operating in UK subject to UK law.

And what exacly is the UK law that XTwitter is in beach of
that all the other Social Media sites are not ?

The law needs to be coherent and clear.
Loathing of Musk is not the basis for good legislation

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 13/01/2026 22:58

Littlegreenbauble · 13/01/2026 21:51

Wrong. US online social media companies operating in UK subject to UK law.

It's not "wrong", I never said they were not subject to UK law.

My point was that there is not a single thing UK politicians can do to have US companies "shut down", or even force compliance here, because US companies care not a jot for UK law due to being completely outwith it's jurisdiction.

If they choose to comply, that is fine and well, but there is literally not one thing the UK can do to force it, never mind the ridiculous notion of somehow compelling them to "shut down".

You are rebutting a claim I never made.

Do you realise that right now 4Chan are in a legal battle with OffCom over exactly this? Offcom have continually badgered 4Chan about their non-compliance, including continual escalating fines, and 4Chan have completely ignored Offcom because they know that there is not a single thing Offcom can actually do to force compliance or force 4Chan to pay fines, because 4chan is not subject to Offcom jurisdiction and the US courts will simply laugh Offcom out of the building due to the absence of any US law than mirrors the relevant UK legislation.

So I ask again, how, precisely, do you propose the UK lawmakers "shut down" US companies?

You might as well be politely asking North Korea to hold free and democratic elections simply because that's what we do in the UK. They'd just laugh at you the same way 4chan are laughing at Offcom's futility and the absurdity of trying to force compliance on an entity which is entirely out of your jurisdiction.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/01/2026 23:30

That’s great.

Gloriia · 14/01/2026 08:09

Great. I bet he was always going to just wasn't to jump immediately to the pile on mainly from people who hate X, have left X yet kept popping on to complain about X.

bombastix · 14/01/2026 09:05

Tbh I think the change is probably more to do with the law that might apply criminally rather than anything OFCOM might do!

The whole episode is so unsavory; this tool should have been amended very quickly instead of being exploited for commercial gain as the controversy raged. That is the side effect of this.

It was also an incoherent step to retain functionality for paying users. That was just about making money. It would not have prevented the issue.

Musk is one of the more complex personalities who is in charge of social media and his provocative behaviour does him no credit. He has made this into a story about the degradation of women and children. I think some of the comments about him and X are justified on that basis.

SerendipityJane · 14/01/2026 18:09

Breaking news

If you're still on X are you ok with what Grok's been doing?
bombastix · 14/01/2026 20:39

London, free speech

If you're still on X are you ok with what Grok's been doing?