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Ice agent shoots woman in the face (pt 2)

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Eyesopenwideawake · 08/01/2026 13:55

Renee Good. Proof the you can shoot someone and get away with it in Trump’s America.

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Playingvideogames · 09/01/2026 10:00

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 09/01/2026 09:57

In what way is it nonsensical or in bad faith to point out that we wouldn't shoot someone in the UK for obstructing a road?

Even if we accept the narrative that Renee Good was an "agitator" and that she was illegally obstructing the road to prevent the ICE agents from doing their job, the fact remains that none of that would have warranted her being shot and killed.

The Trump administration knows this, and therefore cooked up a story about the officer acting in self defence because she was trying to run him over, but the video evidence simply doesn't back that up.

It doesn't matter why she was there or what she was doing there. She didn't deserve to die.

Because she wasn’t shot for obstructing a highway. That isn’t a legitimate sentence for obstructing a highway in the USA. Legally that’s not what happened.

She was shot by a rogue officer, at whom her car was (slowly and likely not deliberately from what I can see) moving toward him, and that officer was previously dragged 100 feet by a car and seriously injured in the past. I would be surprised if he doesn’t have PTSD which caused this enormous and fatal overreaction.

If the punishment for holding up a highway is to be shot in the USA, we would have a lot more of these.

DuncinToffee · 09/01/2026 10:00

helloJen · 09/01/2026 09:54

The Left

All these posts, sound rather scripted.

I wonder what they actually mean with the Left

Anyone who isn't maga?

Playingvideogames · 09/01/2026 10:00

DuncinToffee · 09/01/2026 10:00

I wonder what they actually mean with the Left

Anyone who isn't maga?

What’s meant by MAGA? Anyone that isn’t left?

Gloriia · 09/01/2026 10:00

K0OLA1D · 09/01/2026 09:57

She was murdered.

Completely unjustified.

Best ring JD Vance up I'm sure he'd welcome your expert opinion, or perhaps they'll go on footage and facts..

Snowqueenie123 · 09/01/2026 10:02

A question regarding this:

Immigration agents also can arrest citizenswho allegedly interfered with or assaulted officers. We compiled cases of about 130 Americans, including a dozen elected officials, accused of assaulting or impeding officers

What redress do USA citizens have when they are verbally abused/assaulted by ICE when they are exercising their right to protest what they perceive as undemocratic process?

The video evidence shows Renee wasn’t interfering nor did she assault the ICE person. They chose to interfere and assaulted her -with no justification.

LakieLady · 09/01/2026 10:02

K0OLA1D · 09/01/2026 09:43

Even if that's the case SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SHOT IN THE FUCKING FACE

The only justification I can think of for shooting anyone at all is to prevent them from injuring or killing others.

Gloriia · 09/01/2026 10:02

Playingvideogames · 09/01/2026 10:00

What’s meant by MAGA? Anyone that isn’t left?

Apparently yes. Anyone who sees this for what is is a tragic incident is a FAR RIGHT MAGA Trump cheerleader. That's the level of debate.

Frequency · 09/01/2026 10:03

Was the shooting a reasonable or unreasonable response by the officer and was the threat to his life real or not.

This part is the only relevant bit of your post @1dayatatime , and the answer is it was not a reasonable response, and the only threat to life came from ICE.

Every other point in the debate is just noise, really; however, I will keep pointing out that Trump is spreading misinformation about the victim and stating "facts" with no proof because he is a) using it as an excuse for the murder of an innocent woman. Regardless of why she was there, shooting her was neither proportional nor legal. It doesn't matter whether she was there to rescue kittens or on her way to a bank robbery; it was murder. And b) it does not sit right with me that a country leader is calling a bereaved family liars in an attempt to justify murder.

CrispySquid · 09/01/2026 10:03

Thank god there is footage of this. Imagine all of those times when an innocent person has been harmed and the culprit has got away scott-free simply because it wasn't filmed. You have the American institutions and government outright telling you not to believe what you can see in front of you with your own eyes.

DuncinToffee · 09/01/2026 10:04

Playingvideogames · 09/01/2026 10:00

What’s meant by MAGA? Anyone that isn’t left?

Trump supporters, Make America Great Again.

Can you explain what you mean with The Left?

Even the Dems wouldn't be classed as left in the UK.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 09/01/2026 10:08

RingoJuice · 09/01/2026 09:56

Using an SUV to impede federal agents is not a peaceful protest. She can go on a march and hold signs. She can peacefully protest at federal buildings.

What she can’t do is use her SUV to block federal agents carrying out their duties.

I fwiw don’t think she meant to hit the guy. But it is a direct consequence of her actions that day

We can argue about whether or not it was peaceful. I would agree that it probably isn't legal to block federal agents from carrying out their work. That doesn't necessarily mean that it wasn't peaceful. There is no evidence that she was intending to cause harm to anyone, as you yourself have acknowledged.

Her death may well have been a direct consequence of her actions insofaras she would not have been shot if she hadn't left the house that morning and gone to that particular part of town. However, even if it's true that she was engaged in a non-violent protest which may or may not have included illegally obstructing federal agents from doing their work, surely you would agree it was not reasonably foreseeable that she would be summarily executed in response to such actions?

There is a distinct flavour of certain posters trying to suggest that Renee Good was somehow responsible for her own death because she may have had the temerity to protest against something which she was concerned about. Is that really the kind of society that the US has now become?

AhBiscuits · 09/01/2026 10:08

Here are pictures showing the position of the shooter when each shot was fired. Does he look in danger to you? For me absolutely not, not even when he fired shot 1.

Ice agent shoots woman in the face (pt 2)
helloJen · 09/01/2026 10:10

Gloriia · 09/01/2026 10:02

Apparently yes. Anyone who sees this for what is is a tragic incident is a FAR RIGHT MAGA Trump cheerleader. That's the level of debate.

And this is a sophisticated level of 'debate'?

Best ring JD Vance up I'm sure he'd welcome your expert opinion, or perhaps they'll go on footage and facts..

Also, are you writing in chatgpt to craft these interesting posts?

Cocomelon67 · 09/01/2026 10:11

MJOverInvestor · 08/01/2026 14:41

Apologies if this has already been posted - but here is a very thorough video analysis analysis by the New York Times. https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000010631041/minneapolis-ice-shooting-video.html?smid=url-share

Fantastic work by the New York Times. Very clear and factual. Obviously horrifically disturbing as it makes clear how appalling this murder was.
I’m also interested in the words and actions of the other officers. I have been trained in deescalation strategies. They are doing everything wrong if the hope is to end this without violence. Since she was not at risk of harming them, they should have calmly offered their names, asked her to talk with them and explain they need to get through. Then later asked her to get out of the car (or to move the car - I’m not clear if there was even a crime being committed at this point). Instead in the space of a few seconds they walk aggressively up to the car, shout repeatedly “get out of the car” whilst continuing to walk aggressively toward her, then “get out of the fucking car”, then pull at the door handle. She attempts to move the car (with actually moments before they had asked her to) and is shot point blank in the head. She had every reason to feel very afraid.

RingoJuice · 09/01/2026 10:11

Birth lottery was meant in terms of randomness/chance/lack of choice, not preordained souls -because that wouldn’t be a lottery would it?

But you could not have been born in any other country but this one. You are the product, maybe the weight, of all the decisions and actions of your ancestors. It’s culminates in you. The way you think, feel and act is all a product of this.

In addition you are making assumptions about your ancestors and their hard work leading to your experience of privilege re people you know nothing about and their ancestor’s efforts

In 250 years they created a modern, developed country out of nothing. I think that’s pretty cool tbh.

One point of consideration may be - why do you think your inherited wealth/privilege puts you in a morally superior position and then claim you have made a life based on your own efforts

Who is talking about ‘morally superior’? Being an American is not a point of ‘wealth or privilege’ and its strange you believe that

Shakeoffyourchains · 09/01/2026 10:12

FunnyDoginLahLahLand · 09/01/2026 09:50

Fuck me. I never realized how many people are slathering to live under a fascist, sorry "strong", regime where protesting gets you killed. So much for Land of the Free.

You know they'll come for you next, right?

The thing about the right whinge is they're just massive fucking hypocrites.

JSO protestors deserve everything they get, including prison and run over, for blocking roads but farmers are justified and fully supported for doing the same thing.

The reaction to Charlie Kirk's murder from the left was abhorrent and despicable but it's perfectly ok to be callous and gleeful at a woman being executed because she was a lefty.

Governments are tyrannical dictatorships for punishing hate speech but when it comes to arresting and deporting people without due processes, that's quite alright thank you.

If they genuinely can't see their hypocrisy then there's genuinely something wrong with the way their minds work.

K0OLA1D · 09/01/2026 10:12

Gloriia · 09/01/2026 10:00

Best ring JD Vance up I'm sure he'd welcome your expert opinion, or perhaps they'll go on footage and facts..

I honestly cannot believe there are people so fucking blind in this world.

Its like a bad parody

Cocomelon67 · 09/01/2026 10:14

Remember that Hitler was democratically elected and the SS was “acting under orders”. Morality must be something you know within you and sometimes that means having the courage to stand up to people in authority when they do something morally wrong. We must allow for that in a democracy.

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Gloriia · 09/01/2026 10:15

Shakeoffyourchains · 09/01/2026 10:12

The thing about the right whinge is they're just massive fucking hypocrites.

JSO protestors deserve everything they get, including prison and run over, for blocking roads but farmers are justified and fully supported for doing the same thing.

The reaction to Charlie Kirk's murder from the left was abhorrent and despicable but it's perfectly ok to be callous and gleeful at a woman being executed because she was a lefty.

Governments are tyrannical dictatorships for punishing hate speech but when it comes to arresting and deporting people without due processes, that's quite alright thank you.

If they genuinely can't see their hypocrisy then there's genuinely something wrong with the way their minds work.

Right whinge?

Who has been callous or gleeful about this incident?

helloJen · 09/01/2026 10:15

AhBiscuits · 09/01/2026 10:08

Here are pictures showing the position of the shooter when each shot was fired. Does he look in danger to you? For me absolutely not, not even when he fired shot 1.

Thank you for the images. If the ICE officer genuinely feared for his life, he would have moved out of the vehicle’s path rather than standing directly in front of it while drawing his weapon, especially given that the car would almost certainly have struck him after shooting Renee. This is an Iraq veteran and he would certainly have been trained to side step danger. So he did side step and then executed her.

It's utterly appalling and oh so Trumpian.

Alexandra2001 · 09/01/2026 10:16

Livelovebehappy · 09/01/2026 09:39

No, if you read my posts I’m absolutely not victim blaming. I’ve repeated time after time that she didn’t deserve to be shot. I’m just correcting the statement that she was there not understanding the situation. What isn’t disputed is that her wife was there filming in the lead up to the shooting, on the pavement, which suggests to me that she was there as an agitator. What other reason could there be?

Then why keep going back to her protesting? its irrelevant.

Similar to saying "oh absolutely you should NOT have been raped but if you will walk home alone at night..."

The focus should be on the actions of the iCE agent, not this continual referencing to her "protesting" if thats even what it was...

He acted illegally, against state law as a pp explained earlier, failure to stop is not an excuse to use a firearm, unless in exceptional circumstances, even if she was using her vehicle to harm(she clearly was not) other methods should be used, inc stepping aside.

...to the other pp, no she clearly wasn't a rapist

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 09/01/2026 10:16

Playingvideogames · 09/01/2026 10:00

Because she wasn’t shot for obstructing a highway. That isn’t a legitimate sentence for obstructing a highway in the USA. Legally that’s not what happened.

She was shot by a rogue officer, at whom her car was (slowly and likely not deliberately from what I can see) moving toward him, and that officer was previously dragged 100 feet by a car and seriously injured in the past. I would be surprised if he doesn’t have PTSD which caused this enormous and fatal overreaction.

If the punishment for holding up a highway is to be shot in the USA, we would have a lot more of these.

The videos are clear that she wasn't presenting any threat. If the ICE Officer's response was a wildly misjudged panic reaction because of PTSD arising from a previous incident, then that might be understandable on an individual level, but then there are surely serious questions about why the fuck anyone would ever allow a mentally disturbed officer to carry fire arms in the first place or put them into that kind of situation.

If PTSD is found to be a factor in this case, then I would expect his superior officers to be facing charges of criminal negligence.

Frequency · 09/01/2026 10:18

In 250 years, they created a modern, developed country out of nothing. I think that’s pretty cool tbh.

No, they stole land from native people while raping and murdering them. Obviously, this is not the fault of Americans alive today, and other countries, including the UK, have an equally troubling history, but the fact that this invasion and the eradication of natives in the US is still celebrated makes me uncomfortable.

America was not created; it was taken, by force, from native Americans.

The idea that the US is a modern, developed country when it still celebrates the annihilation of its own people, and people are lawlessly gunning each other down on a daily basis, is a bit of a stretch, imo, but that's my opinion, not a fact.

Playingvideogames · 09/01/2026 10:20

DuncinToffee · 09/01/2026 10:04

Trump supporters, Make America Great Again.

Can you explain what you mean with The Left?

Even the Dems wouldn't be classed as left in the UK.

There’s the left and the Left.

The equivalent of MAGA left are ruled not by principle but by hatred. Hence they argue passionately to put male rapists in women’s prisons, in defence of authoritarian regimes overseas (Iran, Venezuela, Russia), and think it’s morally reprehensible to kill a mass murderer via the death penalty but see the killing of innocent unborn humans as fine and even desirable.

They're not lead by their love of anything, but their absolute loathing of Trump/Tories/Farage, they will unquestioningly and without any deep thought leap to whatever side is not their side (even if it’s a dictator, or killed, or rapist).

Odd bunch of people.

I don’t believe in the death penalty btw and know many people on the left spectrum are not as described above. But you can spot the ones who are.

dottiehens · 09/01/2026 10:20

CharlotteRumpling · 09/01/2026 09:51

I don't think agitators/ protestors should be shot in the face. Or shot at all.

I don't even think the Trump agitators who overran the Capitol in January 2020 and threatened to string up Mike Pence should be shot.

But there appears to be one rule for Maga and one for others.

This is the problem isn’t it.

I would detest to have to choose between MAGA Republicans or Democrats like Tim Waltz or the now Mayor of NY and his chosen aid who said owning a house is racist and fuels white supremacy.

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