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Am I and DH being unfair

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MumTeapot5 · 08/01/2026 12:24

New here.
As the title says, are we being unfair with eldest daughter, hear me out.
Family of 7, 2 adults, 3 children 4-14 and daughter 19 and her long term boyfriend of 5 years.
We moved into a new house mid 2025 as our old house was too small to fit our family in comfortably and we were looking actively anyway and our ideal house came on the market so we went ahead. My eldest daughter was given an upstairs bedroom of her own as each child was, but said she would rather have the downstairs bedroom (was previously a 2nd living room) for whatever reason that me and DH were going to have so all the kids were upstairs but we agreed and all went ahead and all seemed fine as she’s at an age were she could be trusted. That was my 1st mistake I guess, but I’ll come back to that.
My 2nd mistake was allowing her boyfriend to stay over a few nights a week now we had a bigger house and they have been together since they were 14 and in high school together on the agreement that she made sure any mess they made or any washing of his she was to do with her own and they tidy up after themselves.
So back to my first mistake, as I said she has the downstairs bedroom. This room has its own door off the hallway and one of the walls separate the dining room at the back of house. The first few weeks nothing was ever said but the past few weeks she keeps moaning that we are waking her up on a weekend. Now I’d understand if it was really early but she said we never get a lie in past lunch time ( I kid you not ) 🫠 her reasons to this are a list. So she or her boyfriend hears the youngest playing downstairs or singing along to songs that she likes, be that in the living room or dining room when I’m in the kitchen. She hears the noise in the kitchen from cooking/turning on the washer/drier/unloading dishwasher or whatnot. She hears people walking past her room in the hallway, she hears the dog bark etc. Now by no mean are we the quietest family ever but our other children are not elephants that stomp around or are overly loud. Myself and DH have spoken to her about how she can’t expect us all to whisper and tip toe around until gone lunchtime on a weekend especially if we are going out somewhere and getting sorted as we work full time and the dog is a dog and occasionally barks 🤷🏼‍♀️ we have offered to change rooms so she could be upstairs but she said that would be worse as our teen son likes to watch TV or play on his Xbox in his room occasionally and our other teen daughter is always chatting to her friends if we are having a chilled weekend. We tend to hear them from around 10ish but like I said they are not loud or causing a disturbance.
2nd mistake was allowing the boyfriend to stay over. As I said it was agreed that if they tidy up after themselves and do their own washing and she pays keep then we wouldn’t have an issue. I’d say in the last 5 weeks so before Xmas I have been getting up to dishes being left from them cooking if they didn’t want the same meals as us, wet washing in the machine if she’s used it at night, which I will hang up or pop in the tumble drier so I can do our washing, then she moans that her boyfriend says that he feels weird that me or DH are touching his socks/underwear etc. Bear in mind I have a teen son and a husband whose pants we wash and get out to dry regular. I’ve told her if he feels weird then they either wait for their washing to be done and hang it out or move to the drier once the cycle is done or he bags it up and he can do it on the days he is at his home as it’s not like I stand there looking at his pants and socks and judging them 🙈 I just take them out and pop them in the drier. They are being sloppy and not tidying up in general and I am starting to loose my patience.
We told her in December while it was Xmas not to stress to much about paying keep as we knew she was buying presents etc and going out with friends for meals/drinks so thought we was being nice. She’s now turned around last night and said £30 a week isn’t fair of us to ask from her (she works full time and does overtime occasionally) and we told her that £30 is fair as she’s eating the food we buy, using electricity/gas/broadband/household supplies etc. She’s stormed off into her room last night and said we are unfair and she won’t be paying us £30 anymore she will pay £15.
Just looking for some advice really to see if we are being awful parents setting certain rules and charging her keep? Also how would you tell your child if they don’t pay the £30 then they will have to buy their own food etc. Obviously we can’t stop her using the shower etc but she seems to have become very entitled lately since we moved. I’m seriously considering telling her that her boyfriend is no longer welcome to stay overnight anymore.
Sorry it’s been very long winded but thought it would be best to put the facts down as they are x

OP posts:
Irememberwhenitwasallfieldsroundhere · 08/01/2026 12:28

She's getting a very good deal indeed and is behaving like an entitled brat.

If she doesn't like the noise or the facilities she can move out and pay market rent somewhere else.

I would pick your battles - no way can they leave a mess for you to come down to, they need to shut up moaning and you won't do the boyfriend's washing, that's his problem (doesn't like his pants being touch, fuck off you little precious twat!)

YANBU

JuliesName · 08/01/2026 12:29

Absolutely not. She doesn't pay, she leaves. And the boyfriend does NOT stay over with that attitude.

ComtesseDeSpair · 08/01/2026 12:29

She’s 19. If she doesn’t like the living arrangements or how much they cost her then then she and her boyfriend are welcome to find themselves somewhere they prefer to live, just as every other adult does. Whilst she lives in the family home, it’s going to operate like a family home, and you decide how much she pays in board.

HScully · 08/01/2026 12:30

I would honestly show her your bills and divide them by 7 then x that answer by 2 to cover her and her boyfriend. Id bet its more than £30 per week.

£30 per week is a good deal, if she doesnt think its fair she is welcome to find alternative accommodation

KimberleyClark · 08/01/2026 12:30

It sounds like the boyfriend is virtually living with you. Is he paying his keep?

tiredconfusedhungry · 08/01/2026 12:30

I’d be sending her some ads for local room shares (depending on where you live) which are likely to cost well over £100 a week.

sounds like the cheeky fucker needs a wake up call. I’d say the bf is no longer welcome to stay over more than once a week (meaning he doesn’t need to do his washing) and she can cop on to other people making noise in a house they also live in. Wanting to sleep in at the weekend is nice but to expect everyone else to be silent is a joke. Part and parcel of living at home. She’s welcome to move out and pay for the privilege of silence!

Doteycat · 08/01/2026 12:31

Yes you can tell her stop using the shower? Why not? Shes not entitled to free hot water no more than the rest of us.
I have a dd living with me still at 21 and i dont take rent from her. Because shes a student and in college.
She too started to act entitled. Not as bad as this but v entitled to the privelages we gave her. Until we had words and told her the tap was being turned off. No money no fees no hot showers no nothing as we didnt have to anymore. Find somewhere else you can freeload or have some fucking respect.
She got a right land and things changed.
Id be throwing the boy out and telling your dd all privelages are revoked. Full rent as expected or pack your bags. Her choice.
She doesnt get to tell you what shes doing.
You tell her.
End of conversation. These are the terms. Abide by them or off you trot lady.

shouldofgotamortage · 08/01/2026 12:31

I would tell her if she doesnt pay then she needs to move out.z

DollydaydreamTheThird · 08/01/2026 12:33

She sounds very entitled OP. How can she complain about the room situation when she wanted that room? Based on other posts I've read on MN where the OP says they won't have boyf/gfr over to stay EVER I think you have been more than generous. In terms of the keep, I paid that much money to my parents 20 years ago!!!! She is going to have a short, sharp shock when she realises how much private rent is and that doesn't cover her bills or food. I would actually suggest she paid you more unless she is actually saving some of that money for a deposit for rental/ house purchase. It doesn't sound like it from what you have said though.
The boyf sounds like an absolute CF as well. Take your washing home then sunshine!

Mix56 · 08/01/2026 12:38

I’d take them to task together, No to pig- Stye, No to laundry fail. & both need to pay rent.
She is 18, has a job. If she cant respect you & your home she needs to get a flat with the sponging thankless bf

Namechangetheyarewatching · 08/01/2026 12:38

Charge her 20% of her earnings, you can put half away for her if it's more than the £30 you are currently charging, if it makes you feel better.

BF stays only two nights a week

Don't do his washing, he can do that at home

Make sure they tidy up after themselves

I wouldn't allow them to laze in bed until gone lunchtime

The family carry on as normal, if they dont lit it, bye bye

If they break any of these rules, tell her to move out and see if she can't get a better deal elsewhere.

itsthetea · 08/01/2026 12:38

£30 a week don’t cover her food !

itemise all the bills and allocate her share. You could also charge £20 a hour for the cleaning up you do on her behalf - and then show her want rents are in your local area

is there an option that she can have an upstairs room now?

Tekknonan · 08/01/2026 12:40

She's being totally unreasonable and you are being very generous. This is your home, and she is, effectively, a lodger.

No more boyfriedn - they can go to his, and if he lives with his parents and they won't wear it, well, tough, that's life.

Anything left in the kitchen, including wet washing, into a big bag and dumped in her room. This is what I did when my adult DS began to take living at home for granted. He paid us a reasonable rent, but the rules were - he cleared up after himself.

And she pays the (very low) rent of £30, or she looks for somewhere else to live. She has to learn some resilience and some reality.

Pancakeflipper · 08/01/2026 12:40

I would be having a family meeting with and say this isn't working for you and suggest she moves out or discusses the issues in a reasonable manner to reach an agreement.

She isn't contributing to family life. She wants an independent life, which I understand but it's not do-able in a family home.

KarmenPQZ · 08/01/2026 12:40

it sounds like she’s ready to move out. (Meant in a nice way that you’ve raised her so be independent and capable) It’s a natural step bid have a calm quiet word with her about it away from her boyfriend.

id also up her rent and make her sign a tenancy agreement with expectations on washing, tidying, cleaning and maybe fines if it’s not done. And up her rent, it should be £100 on the agreement that you keep the original £30 and she can have the remaining back as a deposit for her own place.

Maxme · 08/01/2026 12:42

Cheeky - she does not dictate the rules. If she doesn't like, then move out.

As someone working full time, I would ask her to be paying substantially more - maybe 50% of market rental rate so she can save and move out.

Once she and bf have their own place they can do what they want with none of the rules or inconvenience (Plus moving out is healthy)

Of course I would save any payments that didn't go into house bills and gift them to her once she was out and settled.

If you continue to tolerate, she and bf will still be there in 10 years and she will be driving a brand new Porsche wearing designer gear along with your other children following to the same path.

If situation was different (hard times, no job) then obviously different response.

JustMyTwoPence · 08/01/2026 12:43

She’s 19 and works full time, there’s no reason she needs to live with you, she does so because you allow her to and she needs to be reminded of that.

I would absolutely be revoking all privileges. Sit down with her calmly and lay out the cost of all of the bills for the month (mortgage, internet, electricity, food) and show her how little her money actually contributes.

Perhaps you should gently suggest she stays over at her boyfriends house at the weekend if she can’t put up with the (completely reasonable) noise at the weekend! If she chooses to still stay with you then she can put up with the noise. The pettiness in me would make sure breakfast involved using a blender or that I hoovered the hallway every weekend at 10:30!

SleepingStandingUp · 08/01/2026 12:46

genuine qn as a Mom who's eldest is only 10. I see "or tell her to leave" so often on these threads, and certainly "you love under my roof, my rules..." was used on us but how many parents actually pack their kids bags up and make them homeless? it feels like such a hollow threat. I'm not saying the fear factor doesn't work, but I always wonder what happens when the defiant DD/DS still doesn't comply

is op actually prepared to make her child sleep on the streets or end up NC when she moves in with boyfriend?

OP if he's uncomfortable with you fondling his underwear 🙄 could you chuck it in a basket in her room wet? do you have enough plates / cups etc to do similarly with their plates etc? anything left in the morning in a box dumped in her room? obviously you'd need to safeguard crockery etc for yourselves.

I'd also encourage the younger ones in their morning singing. have they considered taking up the violin??

mummytrex · 08/01/2026 12:47

Her behaviour and attitude shows she doesn't respect you. I'd have never treated my parents like that.

In your shoes, I'd not be tiptoeing round so she can sleep in. Ban her boyfriend and ask her to move out to the mythical alternate housing that will only cost £15 a week.

Your only mistake was to not charge her more to begin with.

TreeDudette · 08/01/2026 12:47

Wow - I can see my mums face. Put your foot down hard. It's your way or the highway. Boyf can't stay if there's going to be moaning, wet washing, dirty dishes, etc.. She pays her keep or she leaves.

Dozer · 08/01/2026 12:49

You can change your past decisions at any time, eg BF can no longer stay over, move her to a small room and use the room for other purposes.

TreeDudette · 08/01/2026 12:50

SleepingStandingUp · 08/01/2026 12:46

genuine qn as a Mom who's eldest is only 10. I see "or tell her to leave" so often on these threads, and certainly "you love under my roof, my rules..." was used on us but how many parents actually pack their kids bags up and make them homeless? it feels like such a hollow threat. I'm not saying the fear factor doesn't work, but I always wonder what happens when the defiant DD/DS still doesn't comply

is op actually prepared to make her child sleep on the streets or end up NC when she moves in with boyfriend?

OP if he's uncomfortable with you fondling his underwear 🙄 could you chuck it in a basket in her room wet? do you have enough plates / cups etc to do similarly with their plates etc? anything left in the morning in a box dumped in her room? obviously you'd need to safeguard crockery etc for yourselves.

I'd also encourage the younger ones in their morning singing. have they considered taking up the violin??

My parents absolutely told my sister to do as told or leave. There were rows, they removed support, she eventually left to a flatshare to avoid the aggro. She was on what would now be minimum wage. There was a cold few years after whilst she grew up but 25 years on she leaves next door to my parents (paying her own way from her own career!) and they are really close. Sometimes you have to be a bit cruel to be kind. I went to uni so never really lived at home after 18.

CoffeeBeansGalore · 08/01/2026 12:50

When eldest dd started working full time we asked for 20% of take home pay. I only worked part time & so she was earning more than me. There was a bit of a grumble about this. So I wrote down all the general household bills and divided by 5 for "her share". It was far more than her 20% payment & made her realise she had a good deal.

When she got her own home she thanked us as by charging keep we had taught her to budget. It made her life easier to manage.

Citrusbergamia · 08/01/2026 12:52

Cheeky madam.

Lots of good points made by other PP's about showing her just how much it costs you to keep her and her BF for the week/2 days. Then she'll see what a huge discount you are giving her...£30 a week?!!? If she's working, she should be able to afford this but you should be asking for more.

Tough if family life is too noisy (it doesn't sound like it's excessive by any stretch); tell her to invest in some ear cancelling headphones or ear plugs or suggest she moves out and finds her own place...

Goditsmemargaret · 08/01/2026 12:54

Spoilt brat. Put a stop to it now. Sit down with her and boyfriend and a rough budget of what it would cost them to rent a room, pay utilities and buy food.

Then explain very clearly that they are getting a very good deal but it will not continue if there are anymore unreasonable complaints. Their wet clothes will be dumped on the bed if that's easier for them. The kids will not be told to stay quiet.