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Am I and DH being unfair

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MumTeapot5 · 08/01/2026 12:24

New here.
As the title says, are we being unfair with eldest daughter, hear me out.
Family of 7, 2 adults, 3 children 4-14 and daughter 19 and her long term boyfriend of 5 years.
We moved into a new house mid 2025 as our old house was too small to fit our family in comfortably and we were looking actively anyway and our ideal house came on the market so we went ahead. My eldest daughter was given an upstairs bedroom of her own as each child was, but said she would rather have the downstairs bedroom (was previously a 2nd living room) for whatever reason that me and DH were going to have so all the kids were upstairs but we agreed and all went ahead and all seemed fine as she’s at an age were she could be trusted. That was my 1st mistake I guess, but I’ll come back to that.
My 2nd mistake was allowing her boyfriend to stay over a few nights a week now we had a bigger house and they have been together since they were 14 and in high school together on the agreement that she made sure any mess they made or any washing of his she was to do with her own and they tidy up after themselves.
So back to my first mistake, as I said she has the downstairs bedroom. This room has its own door off the hallway and one of the walls separate the dining room at the back of house. The first few weeks nothing was ever said but the past few weeks she keeps moaning that we are waking her up on a weekend. Now I’d understand if it was really early but she said we never get a lie in past lunch time ( I kid you not ) 🫠 her reasons to this are a list. So she or her boyfriend hears the youngest playing downstairs or singing along to songs that she likes, be that in the living room or dining room when I’m in the kitchen. She hears the noise in the kitchen from cooking/turning on the washer/drier/unloading dishwasher or whatnot. She hears people walking past her room in the hallway, she hears the dog bark etc. Now by no mean are we the quietest family ever but our other children are not elephants that stomp around or are overly loud. Myself and DH have spoken to her about how she can’t expect us all to whisper and tip toe around until gone lunchtime on a weekend especially if we are going out somewhere and getting sorted as we work full time and the dog is a dog and occasionally barks 🤷🏼‍♀️ we have offered to change rooms so she could be upstairs but she said that would be worse as our teen son likes to watch TV or play on his Xbox in his room occasionally and our other teen daughter is always chatting to her friends if we are having a chilled weekend. We tend to hear them from around 10ish but like I said they are not loud or causing a disturbance.
2nd mistake was allowing the boyfriend to stay over. As I said it was agreed that if they tidy up after themselves and do their own washing and she pays keep then we wouldn’t have an issue. I’d say in the last 5 weeks so before Xmas I have been getting up to dishes being left from them cooking if they didn’t want the same meals as us, wet washing in the machine if she’s used it at night, which I will hang up or pop in the tumble drier so I can do our washing, then she moans that her boyfriend says that he feels weird that me or DH are touching his socks/underwear etc. Bear in mind I have a teen son and a husband whose pants we wash and get out to dry regular. I’ve told her if he feels weird then they either wait for their washing to be done and hang it out or move to the drier once the cycle is done or he bags it up and he can do it on the days he is at his home as it’s not like I stand there looking at his pants and socks and judging them 🙈 I just take them out and pop them in the drier. They are being sloppy and not tidying up in general and I am starting to loose my patience.
We told her in December while it was Xmas not to stress to much about paying keep as we knew she was buying presents etc and going out with friends for meals/drinks so thought we was being nice. She’s now turned around last night and said £30 a week isn’t fair of us to ask from her (she works full time and does overtime occasionally) and we told her that £30 is fair as she’s eating the food we buy, using electricity/gas/broadband/household supplies etc. She’s stormed off into her room last night and said we are unfair and she won’t be paying us £30 anymore she will pay £15.
Just looking for some advice really to see if we are being awful parents setting certain rules and charging her keep? Also how would you tell your child if they don’t pay the £30 then they will have to buy their own food etc. Obviously we can’t stop her using the shower etc but she seems to have become very entitled lately since we moved. I’m seriously considering telling her that her boyfriend is no longer welcome to stay overnight anymore.
Sorry it’s been very long winded but thought it would be best to put the facts down as they are x

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thecomedyofterrors · 08/01/2026 14:01

Spoilt! The classic ruined with kindness scenario. And now you’ll have to be firm and cause ructions, enforce boundaries and teach her lessons in responsibility which quite honestly should have been embedded years ago. Not too late, but harder!

Evaka · 08/01/2026 14:01

You've created a monster OP

GoldDuster · 08/01/2026 14:02

Goodness me, it's definitely time for someone to fly the nest, I'd be helping with a dose of reality and if that didn't work, a foot in the small of the back.

Homegrownberries · 08/01/2026 14:03

The boyfriend is there 5 days a week? That has to stop. You are not a hotel.

19lottie82 · 08/01/2026 14:03

MumTeapot5 · 08/01/2026 13:08

I’m going to speak to DH when we are home tonight and suggest we up her rent and tell her if she doesn’t like it she can go to her boyfriends parents house and stay there or she moves out. We will put this to her while her boyfriend isn’t around and tell her that unless he starts paying some keep towards he will be staying at home and only welcome once a week as opposed to the 5 days he stays here including the weekend. I thought I was being unfair but I see that maybe we are being too soft x

Good stuff OP. This is the right thing for you, your family AND your daughter. She won’t see that right now, but you’re not doing her any favours letting her act like this and not paying a realistic rent.

SerendipityJane · 08/01/2026 14:06

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Fucking scarlet for ya love.

PeachySmile2 · 08/01/2026 14:08

You are not being unreasonable at all, you have been incredibly accommodating. If she does not like the noise, she’ll have to move to the upstairs bedroom. The rest of the family cannot walk on eggshells as to not disturb the teenager that sleeps
in until midday. The sloppiness is not acceptable either - from her or the boyfriend. If the boyfriend feels weird about you touching his clothes, tell her she’s not to do his washing in your house anymore. As for the rent - she has no idea how good she’s got it. A lot people her age pay parents £250-400 a month in addition to buying their own food, paying their own bills etc. You need to have a serious word with her, you can’t let her bully you in your own house.

freakingscared · 08/01/2026 14:12

You have a bigger problem than you think imo . Get her to actually pay rent and bills and if she doesn’t like it tell her to move out ! You are supporting 2 adults that on top of being rude are ungrateful.

Kevinbaconsrealwife · 08/01/2026 14:15

If she doesn’t like your extremely fair and reasonable rules and cheap as chips rent please do ensure she knows where to door is and to close it behind them both on the way out……not a chance on Gods green earth is she being remotely adult or reasonable….xx

WaltzingWaters · 08/01/2026 14:16

YABU to be so easy on her and let her become an entitled brat.

  • If she doesn’t want to pay you £30 a week (I mean, her food alone would cost more than that) she can find somewhere else to stay. If BF is practically living there he pays too.
  • if she leave her washing in the machine a wet pile of washing is left by her door for her to sort out.
  • if she doesn’t do her dishes she gets loud knocks on her door to get up and do them
  • if she complains about noise and her bedroom situation (the room she chose and is able to change) she, as an adult, can search for alternative accommodation.

You’re not being unfair- you’re being far too easy on her.

WearyAuldWumman · 08/01/2026 14:17

Just to add that I paid £16 a week for a bedsit (with a sink) in Glasgow, academic yr '82-'83. A £15 bedsit with no sink was also available.

Shared kitchen - 7 girls in all - shared bathroom. Heating was a gas fire in the room, fed by 50 p pieces; electricity was a shared bill.

rememberingthem · 08/01/2026 14:18

Your dd is a spoilt brat quite frankly! She could always move out if she doesn’t like it, she will be paying a damn sight more than £30 a week then!

ginasevern · 08/01/2026 14:18

The boyfriend's got a lot to bloody say for himself as an unpaying guest. Even if he was paying he'd be a CF. Help both of them look for a room in a shared house or a bedsit. In the meantime she pays you a proper rate and the boyfriend no longer stays over. She either shuts up, pays up or ships out.

Lemondessert · 08/01/2026 14:19

She needs to move out she in being unreasonable. The bf sounds very annoying he can go home and do his washing and he can stay less nights. I think this would free up more food in your house and less washing up for you. Or she sticks to the rules and pays more money. They have been together a long time they need a plan that doesn’t involve moaning at everyone’s else.

SamphiretheTervosaur · 08/01/2026 14:19

When you talk to her have a couple of 1 bed flats, bedsit, house share adverts to show her

They are both taking full advantage of your generosity and probably wont stop mithering you until they move out

noidea69 · 08/01/2026 14:22

Her and boyfriend need to get their own place, and maybe a dose of reality.

Holidaytrees · 08/01/2026 14:22

Irememberwhenitwasallfieldsroundhere · 08/01/2026 12:28

She's getting a very good deal indeed and is behaving like an entitled brat.

If she doesn't like the noise or the facilities she can move out and pay market rent somewhere else.

I would pick your battles - no way can they leave a mess for you to come down to, they need to shut up moaning and you won't do the boyfriend's washing, that's his problem (doesn't like his pants being touch, fuck off you little precious twat!)

YANBU

This. Tell them that they need to find their own place and the downstairs room is going to become a craft / music / pool room or whatever or you will get a lodger that does pay market rent /contribute properly and doesn’t complain etc

Hollietree · 08/01/2026 14:26

MumTeapot5 · 08/01/2026 13:08

I’m going to speak to DH when we are home tonight and suggest we up her rent and tell her if she doesn’t like it she can go to her boyfriends parents house and stay there or she moves out. We will put this to her while her boyfriend isn’t around and tell her that unless he starts paying some keep towards he will be staying at home and only welcome once a week as opposed to the 5 days he stays here including the weekend. I thought I was being unfair but I see that maybe we are being too soft x

No you are being waaaaaaaaaaaaay too soft! Daughter doesn’t know how good she’s got it and yet she’s still moaning and trying to dictate rules to you!

Works full-time and wants to pay £15pw for housing/bills/food 😲 I’m flabbergasted. Where does all her salary go? Please say she is saving a huge chunk of her salary every month, saving up to move out?

rustlerwaiter · 08/01/2026 14:27

I struggled to stretch £30 to a week's food when I lived alone over 10 years ago, it's a very good deal.

Iloveyoubut · 08/01/2026 14:29

OP, your daughter doesn’t know she’s living! Seriously. And I don’t often say that on here about teens or adult children tbh. She picks a bedroom and then that’s it end off. She lives with the noise and if she wants a silent lie in she can book a hotel room with all that extra money she has from paying £30 a week, ffs I had to pay more than that to my parents in 1986 and I stayed in a shit hole and that didn’t even include food! Secondly, put your foot down hard about the boyfriend… I’d sit down with both of them and say these are the conditions, these are the house rules, OP, I know this gets frowned upon on Mumsnet to say, but genuinely, you sound so, so lovely, and more than fair! They want the downstairs bedroom so they can ahem, ‘make noise’ and feel like adults so it’s cuts both ways. You make noise, you take noise. You want to be treated like an adult, you behave like one. She’s taking the absolute piss! I can’t even express how ‘in the right’ you are to get her told!

blackpooolrock · 08/01/2026 14:30

her rent is far too cheap. Charge her £100 a week which includes washing and electricity.

Washing up and laundry need to be tidied by 9am if done over night.

BF pays £10 a night if he stays.

Don't give her an option of moving rooms. Tell her you want to move the rooms around to suit the family. She has no say on who has what room as a paying guest.

ERthree · 08/01/2026 14:30

You raised a spoiled brat, now you are reaping your reward, Harsh but true. You have allowed this situation to go on for months. She is your Daughter not your best friend. Get her told these are the rules and they are not budging, that she is welcome to live there and you would rather she did but she is welcome to leave and fund her own adult life. It really is that simple.

Lightuptheroom · 08/01/2026 14:33

You sit them both down with your husband.
No accomodating her issues with noise (she can always move into a shared house?)
Spare room is a good website for this age group , suggest she finds a flat or house share (don't think £30 a week is going to get her very far and she certainly wouldn't be let off paying rent just because it's Christmas!)
You're not making her homeless , she's working full time so £30 a week is nothing at all for everything she's getting. My step son decided at 30 that he felt hard done by paying us £500 a month so has moved into a flat share (yes I know 30 is older than 19) but I had my own son here with his girlfriend for 6 months at 19 and he very soon learnt he could play by the rules or find an alternative. Stop just being a push over.

TomatoSandwiches · 08/01/2026 14:33

She needs bringing down a peg or two, she's very spoilt and entitled to a stunning degree dictating her own rent to you. My mother told us what the rate was, you either paid it or lived somewhere else and that was that, no bickering about how unfair it all was.

My eldest is 17 and I've already said there will be no sleepovers here in this house, you give an inch and suddenly you have another dependant in your home, no thanks.