To dob in family member - benefits

[Dragonsfoot]

I have a relative that does have health problems. They went to tribunal and were awarded higher rate PIP and have a motorbility car apparently supported by a Rottweiler of an advocate. I have no gripe that they deserve something - occasional falls, mild mental health problems, physical health problems that require monitoring and support and mild difficulties dressing themselves due to joint problems but don’t actually need to be helped. They do have a disability.

However, they are able to walk miles most of the time, decorate their home, complete domestic tasks and attend social activities on a very regular basis on foot. Morally torn. They probably will struggle without the money. Would DWP even do anything kind of thing. Either way I feel a bad person.

Literally the best advice anyone on PIP could have. Don't tell anyone.

Blame the game, not the player.

And money is no substitute for being healthy and pain free and able.👍

For goodness sake, stay out of. Not having to worry about finances does wonders for health but in your relative's case, it's fragile, could not take knocks.

Don't judge.

I wish people would keep quiet about the benefits they receive, people just don't understand.

ah well. It’s the fraud element we discuss not the money.

The process is daunting enough without your own family members wishing you ill. I have osteoarthritis and fibromyalgia. I am only 45, but often get around my house bum shuffling like a toddler. I have to conserve my energy for masking so my children are not upset by it.

Noone has any idea what lengths I go to to look "normal". Not even dp.

I could never go for Pip or the like. I could not stand any kind of scrutiny. Because of attitudes like yours.

Quite.

So have you discussed it with the relative in question or just chuntered behind their back?

Except they have occasional falls. Which is terrifying because a fall can lead to serious injury. They probably can't predict when they might fall, or they may get very tired after walking a long way and be more likely to fall.

Until my recent surgery which has given me a limp and a lot of pain, which hopefully will improve over time, you would not know from watching me walk that I have severe osteoarthritis. I'm fine on the day when I'm walking, but if I take more than 1,000 steps, I get extremely tired and I can't walk without pain the following day. I have a blue badge so I don't have to walk far and I take taxis or drive rather than use public transport. I might be eligible for PIP but I haven't applied.

So because I take care of myself and park close to shops and sit down a lot, I mostly look fine and don't look disabled. The blue badge allows me to take care of myself.

You say you know someone, but you don't always. You can't see the pain, fatigue or anxiety that having their condition gives them and that they might be hiding from you.

And if you have something similar, why don't you apply for PIP? Envy is not a good look on anyone.

You don't know what medical evidence your relative presented, but you do know it was fraudulent?

That makes perfect sense. Your relative is lucky to have such a supportive family.

You stated you see this person regularly. Did you at any time think to have discussion with this person regarding your concerns about them committing fraud? Or was this just discussed with others behind their back?

Its funny to me anyone can claim benefits any benefits have kids for money, refuse to work full time just to get UC, or have topups from UC etc ect.

The moment anyone man woman or child says i get pip its wrong and they dont need it because they can do this that and the other.
Its not easy to get its bloody hard.

As i said above thats why i dont tell a soul its between me and the DWP only.
I have my review in 2028.
To look at me you would think i dont need it but you dont live in my world, or my body.

I think overall that’s a ‘no’, so I’ll sail off content that what I have done so far (nothing) was the morally right thing to do. Goodnight. Thanks for your help to those who haven’t called me disgusting for wondering whether I was doing right or wrong.

A qualified tribunal has found this person deserving based on evidence provided.

How have you reached the comclusion that they are taking away from others?

Apologies, I responded after you with exactly the same thoughts.

You’ve not realised that every single person who claims pip / motability and sickness benefits is pure as the driven snow yet have you OP?

The reason the proposed cuts to the benefits will be harsh - but not as badly received as Government might have first thought due to the fact that everyone knows a blagger - or someone who appears to be one. In every playground of every school - there is one who appears to be able to perk themselves up for a daily school run / karaoke down the pub / the school disco / shopping down the town centre but can’t walk more than 3 steps when it comes to their claim…

this will be unpopular- but I don’t mind. Those people , who walk among us, make genuine claimants be viewed with suspicion.

The disabled people who perk up for a social event are often in pain and in bed for days after the event.

Disabled people are allowed to have a life, and they are allowed to have good days, and they should feel able to go out and have a life without judgemental cunts thinking they must be taking the piss because they left their house and had the audacity to have a good time.

You do realise that you don’t need be to a complete invalid who sits in a corner rocking back and forth to get PIP. PiP is there to help people live as full a life as possible, people are still entitled to enjoy themselves, have long walks when and if they are able to do so, exercise their own autonomy and independence as much as they can. I know, what a shocker!! What a fucking liberty, eh?

Out of interest, how long has your criminal scumbag of a relative been claiming? And why haven’t you expressed your disgust by reporting them at ONCE instead of slagging them off and writing ill intended threads online? Aren’t you withholding information if you don’t? That’s a crime in itself 🤣

If you feel that they can do all the things you say they can but still get PIP, and you yourself have similar problems but don’t get it, then why don’t you put in your own application? It seems that it’s the fact that you don’t claim that is making you resentful.

That's not your business.

Sat on it for years? I suspect stewed over it for years is closer to the mark. And it sounds like you've taken the time to look into what level of disability corresponds to what level of benefit which is a level of interest bordering on stalkerish. How on earth do you know what level of challenges they face behind closed doors?

Someone a long time ago said something about letting he (or she) without sin cast the first stone. Have you never done anything in your life that you would not want revealing to anyone? If not, hush up and leave them be.

I completely agree, it baffles me when people get jealous or resent how much others get when it comes to stuff like disability benefits

"Wah, they get too much!" 🙄
No amount of money would make me want to swap and not have full health.

Why are you comparing your situation to OPs relative? Totally different scenarios…

Thank you!

Of course the genuine claimants are in the majority but that doesn't mean it isnt easy to game the system.

Regardless of whether they're entitled the benefit or not, how tf does someone feel more loyalty to the taxman than to their own family?